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2 minutes ago, coachdags said:

Players need to buy in! When they do we are pretty good! Need to share the basketball, and quit playing “Hero” hoops! 

When we look to pass 1st, instead of shoot 1st we are pretty good! 

Who recruited and is coaching the players that aren’t buying in?

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Posted
11 minutes ago, coachdags said:

Players need to buy in! When they do we are pretty good! Need to share the basketball, and quit playing “Hero” hoops! 

When we look to pass 1st, instead of shoot 1st we are pretty good! 

I actually thought they were moving the all pretty good, just couldn’t shoot 

Posted
17 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

With this logic you could have a 5-year-old on the bench coaching the guys  … 

Everyone complaining about the shooting %

get a grip 

do you do everything right everyday

 

Posted
24 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

With this logic you could have a 5-year-old on the bench coaching the guys  … 

Exactly. It’s the coaches players and him coaching them. In the end it ultimately lies with the coach.

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Posted
49 minutes ago, coachdags said:

Players need to buy in! When they do we are pretty good! Need to share the basketball, and quit playing “Hero” hoops! 

When we look to pass 1st, instead of shoot 1st we are pretty good! 

Sather has to be your buddy. You are dogging on a first year women's coach that was handed a dumpster fire this year and yet Sather is in year 6 and has done nothing !!  

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Posted
7 minutes ago, NewUndFan said:

Sather has to be your buddy. You are dogging on a first year women's coach that was handed a dumpster fire this year and yet Sather is in year 6 and has done nothing !!  

Sather’s teams have been competitive and enjoyable to watch! 
 

The women’s program remains a dumpster fire, since the AD fired Brewster! 
 

We will never win another National Title with either program, but there has to at least have a chance to be .500 or above and competitive 

Posted
1 hour ago, coachdags said:

Sather’s teams have been competitive and enjoyable to watch! 
 

The women’s program remains a dumpster fire, since the AD fired Brewster! 
 

We will never win another National Title with either program, but there has to at least have a chance to be .500 or above and competitive 

This is only the second year Sather will finish with a conference record above .500

Posted
54 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:

This is only the second year Sather will finish with a conference record above .500

Paul Sather is from the Greg McDermott tree of coaches! Greg is a 35+ year friend, that has been very successful. 
I will take Paul any day, he comes highly recommended and has had some success at a couple of schools before UND. 
Paul has also recruited very well here! 
Retention has been the issue, which seems to be a trend every where. 
I will make no apologies, I feel he is a good Coach here, even if the overall record isn’t what a lot of you want! 
Winning isn’t easy…

Posted
3 minutes ago, coachdags said:

Paul Sather is from the Greg McDermott tree of coaches! Greg is a 35+ year friend, that has been very successful. 
I will take Paul any day, he comes highly recommended and has had some success at a couple of schools before UND. 
Paul has also recruited very well here! 
Retention has been the issue, which seems to be a trend every where. 
I will make no apologies, I feel he is a good Coach here, even if the overall record isn’t what a lot of you want! 
Winning isn’t easy…

The truth comes out. Im surprised McDermott the God of coaches hasnt recommended Sather for another job if he is so great. He stays at UND the worst coaching job in the summit.  

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1 hour ago, coachdags said:

Paul Sather is from the Greg McDermott tree of coaches! Greg is a 35+ year friend, that has been very successful. 
I will take Paul any day, he comes highly recommended and has had some success at a couple of schools before UND. 
Paul has also recruited very well here! 
Retention has been the issue, which seems to be a trend every where. 
I will make no apologies, I feel he is a good Coach here, even if the overall record isn’t what a lot of you want! 
Winning isn’t easy…

I think you're mostly right but when one of your players busts free and goes in for an easy 2 point lay-in but tries to showboat and "SLAM IT" and totally blows it then hangs on the rim and gets called for it and the COACH BLOWS UP at the refs?  WTF!  You're the COACH!  Get in your players face and roast HIM!!!  That wasn't on the official that was on the player.  Sather almost got a technical which would have been twice as worse....that's the problem...misdirected "coaching/anger"  YOUR GUYS DO MAKE MISTAKES!  Your job as coach is to correct that - end of story!

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Posted
8 hours ago, coachdags said:

Paul Sather is from the Greg McDermott tree of coaches! Greg is a 35+ year friend, that has been very successful. 
I will take Paul any day, he comes highly recommended and has had some success at a couple of schools before UND. 
Paul has also recruited very well here! 
Retention has been the issue, which seems to be a trend every where. 
I will make no apologies, I feel he is a good Coach here, even if the overall record isn’t what a lot of you want! 
Winning isn’t easy…

You’ve eliminated results from a result-orientated line of work (as most work should be). That doesn’t allow for an accurate assessment. I appreciate the sentiment, but it is exactly the type of thinking that keeps programs mediocre and away from excellence.

The UND men’s basketball (MBB) program needs more support ($), no question, but that additional support doesn’t change the characteristics of the individual. If you don’t change the culture up front, the culture will change you. It’s too far gone for Coach Sather - he’s a shell of himself. He got the money, but he won’t find major success at UND MBB, and UND MBB is locked into mediocrity for another 2-3 years.

Wake me in 2028-2029 and maybe we can talk excitement with UND hoops then. 

In the meantime, I recommend you turn your attention to UND hockey and UND football. They’ve got the support and leaders you need to have a chance. 

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Per my boots on the ground before this season, in the undercurrents at NDSU, Richman was kind of on the hot seat.

Winning matters, but mid-major MBB is a joke, to be honest. If Miami OH doesn't win the Mid-American Conference tournament, they won't get into the NCAA tournament even with just one loss. Their strength of schedule is in the 300s. Some barely .500 ACC school will get in over them.

With all that said, I'm not a big fan of Sather, but as someone mentioned earlier, his main issue is retention, and at UND, that really isn't his fault. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

So hypothetically let’s say we give sather a bigger raise of 500k per year

 

does that make him a better coach

 

or what more support they need

Chaves could easily negotiate that down to 495K

Posted
10 hours ago, coachdags said:

Paul Sather is from the Greg McDermott tree of coaches! Greg is a 35+ year friend, that has been very successful. 
I will take Paul any day, he comes highly recommended and has had some success at a couple of schools before UND. 
Paul has also recruited very well here! 
Retention has been the issue, which seems to be a trend every where. 
I will make no apologies, I feel he is a good Coach here, even if the overall record isn’t what a lot of you want! 
Winning isn’t easy…

I somewhat agree but other schools in our conference have figured it out. 

Posted
1 hour ago, forksandspoons said:

Chaves could easily negotiate that down to 495K

Would his sleeves be rolled up and would he be thinking philosophically and would Marty be following him around wagging his tail

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Posted
9 hours ago, sioux24/7 said:

My question is where do people rank this season in terms of Sather’s coaching jobs? Like is this towards the top of his seasons here or what?

In terms of expectations going into the year and current talent on the team, this is probably his best coaching job. Although, they were really good in one possession/close games this conference  season so that really swings things.

23-24 was his best team by far and best overall record, but an early exit in the Summit tourney doesn’t make it his best IMO. 

I feel like 21-22 (year 3), 22-23 (year 4), and 24-25 (year 6) were all pretty bad years. Crazy that you can still have a job considering that.

Posted
3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

With all that said, I'm not a big fan of Sather, but as someone mentioned earlier, his main issue is retention, and at UND, that really isn't his fault. 

Isn't his fault? It may not be the only reason, but there is definitely some responsibility there. Talk to some of the players, you may be surprised on what you hear.

Posted
13 minutes ago, EternalOptimist said:

Isn't his fault? It may not be the only reason, but there is definitely some responsibility there. Talk to some of the players, you may be surprised on what you hear.

Because the grass is always greener? Most of UND's top-end talent that has left over the past few years really hasn't panned out BB-wise....financially is a different argument. Not absolving Sather, but this isn't your Rich Glass era of coaching at UND.

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3 hours ago, gfhockey said:

So hypothetically let’s say we give sather a bigger raise of 500k per year

 

does that make him a better coach

 

or what more support they need

He needs more support, in terms of facilities, assistants, NIL (having better players always helps), but of course paying him more won’t make him a better coach.
 

It’s a convenient excuse though for those who are buddy buddy with him …

Results matter in this business. We went through the same issue with football and the inevitable outcome happened we all knew needed to happen 3+ years in advance. This feels like the same damn thing but now with basketball … good work, Chaves, you tool

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Posted
2 hours ago, gfhockey said:

Would his sleeves be rolled up and would he be thinking philosophically and would Marty be following him around wagging his tail

Ha!! 
 

one of the most accurate depictions on this site in recent memory 

 

good work @gfhockey

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