UND @ Kansas State 8/30/25

[Und Princess]

1 minute ago, F'n Hawks said:

We will playing a pissed off Kansas State next week…

Now it's our job to piss Kansas St even more!!! Let's Go!!!

[Sioux94]

Horrible defense by K state on that 4th down with 2 minutes left. Two guys wide open for easy passes.

[UND-FB-FAN]

41 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:

We will playing a pissed off Kansas State next week…

 

40 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

Interesting game.  Kstate  will not be easy after today.

Ok ….. 

if Kansas state had won, then people on here would have been also mentioning they looked tough. And now, they lose, and they are tougher?

Whatever.

Go down there and win the f*ckin game. let’s go hawks…

So, apparently, Kansas state is not invincible 

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

7 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

 

Ok ….. 

if Kansas state had won, then people on here would have been also mentioning they looked tough. And now, they lose, and they are tougher?

Whatever.

Go down there and win the f*ckin game. let’s go hawks…

So, apparently, Kansas state is not invincible 

 

f kleiman

[iramurphy]

Beating KState would be a major upset. 
I think I can summarize some of the obvious things we need to stay in the game.

Special teams must have solid kick and punt coverage and avoid any long returns. No missed tackles. Hopefully our kicker can put KO’s in the end zone. No roughing punter or kicker penalties. 
No blocked punts. 
Hang onto FB on all punt and KO returns. No mental errors. 
 

Defensively, figure out how to cover KState TEs and  backs out of backfield in passing game. Keep receivers in front of our defenders. That means our zone coverage guys need to get on receivers as they enter their zone. That is a tough challenge for most teams at all levels if opposing qb’s have time to throw. Defenders need to stay home on defense and not over pursue/run themselves out of the play. We can’t miss tackles and we can’t drop potential interceptions. We can’t have missed tackles. We have to avoid mental errors and we need to avoid personal fouls, unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. Our new defense has to maintain outside contain while still getting pressure on the qb. 

Offensively, we want to run themselves FB but we will also need our short passing game.  It’s tough to protect our qb against good FBS teams cuz even their big guys tend to be fast.  Deng Deng can be a weapon with his size and athletic ability wherever he is on the field.  Hoskins has the speed and quickness to make guys miss and can break tackles.  He and Seidel can be tough to cover on wheel routes.  We need to involve our TE’s especially as safety valves.  If we have time to throw we have receivers who can get downfield. No fumbles, no dropped passes.  No mental errors including personal fouls, unsportsmanlike, and delay of game penalties.  The running game is expected to be our bread and butter. I think we have 5-6 guys who can be effective RBs but the key in addition to QB is our oline going to be a dominant force for us this year. 
 

I don’t know who will be the qb and, like last year, I don’t care.  The QB who plays is obviously the guy the staff thinks will give us the best chance to win. Whoever it is needs to protect the ball and move the chains. 
 

New Year, new era, Go Hawks!

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

5 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Beating KState would be a major upset. 
I think I can summarize some of the obvious things we need to stay in the game.

Special teams must have solid kick and punt coverage and avoid any long returns. No missed tackles. Hopefully our kicker can put KO’s in the end zone. No roughing punter or kicker penalties. 
No blocked punts. 
Hang onto FB on all punt and KO returns. No mental errors. 
 

Defensively, figure out how to cover KState TEs and  backs out of backfield in passing game. Keep receivers in front of our defenders. That means our zone coverage guys need to get on receivers as they enter their zone. That is a tough challenge for most teams at all levels if opposing qb’s have time to throw. Defenders need to stay home on defense and not over pursue/run themselves out of the play. We can’t miss tackles and we can’t drop potential interceptions. We can’t have missed tackles. We have to avoid mental errors and we need to avoid personal fouls, unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. Our new defense has to maintain outside contain while still getting pressure on the qb. 

Offensively, we want to run themselves FB but we will also need our short passing game.  It’s tough to protect our qb against good FBS teams cuz even their big guys tend to be fast.  Deng Deng can be a weapon with his size and athletic ability wherever he is on the field.  Hoskins has the speed and quickness to make guys miss and can break tackles.  He and Seidel can be tough to cover on wheel routes.  We need to involve our TE’s especially as safety valves.  If we have time to throw we have receivers who can get downfield. No fumbles, no dropped passes.  No mental errors including personal fouls, unsportsmanlike, and delay of game penalties.  The running game is expected to be our bread and butter. I think we have 5-6 guys who can be effective RBs but the key in addition to QB is our oline going to be a dominant force for us this year. 
 

I don’t know who will be the qb and, like last year, I don’t care.  The QB who plays is obviously the guy the staff thinks will give us the best chance to win. Whoever it is needs to protect the ball and move the chains. 
 

New Year, new era, Go Hawks!

 

What would be main difference between Bubba's brand of defense versus Eric's...obviously they worked together for years.  

What differences should be expecting going forward with Eric at the helm?

[Und Princess]

Just now, SIOUXFAN97 said:

What would be main difference between Bubba's brand of defense versus Eric's...obviously they worked together for years.  

What differences should be expecting going forward with Eric at the helm?

The defenses are different.  One was 40 years old. The other is a d1, more polished defense. Let's Go Hawks and attack Kansas St!!!

[iramurphy]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

What would be main difference between Bubba's brand of defense versus Eric's...obviously they worked together for years.  

What differences should be expecting going forward with Eric at the helm?

Good question.

I’m not sure my answer will be any better than yours or anyone else’s. As you and most here know 3-4 def needs 3 down  linemen to occupy 3 and hopefully 4 offensive linemen to keep them off of the 4 LB’s. They also need to plug up the middle against the run and create gaps against pass defenders to allow blitzing LBS or DBs to  pressure the QB. The LBS need to plug gaps against the run and the outside guys may often have outside contain.  Those LBS need to cover TEs RBs and slot receivers depending on your secondary coverage. As far as Cover 1 vs Tampa or Tampa 2 I didn’t pay close enough attention to comment much on how Bubba typically deployed them. The big concern was our DBs didn’t seem to close on receivers as they crossed into their areas of responsibility as well as we would hope. 
the 4-2 obviously has 4 linemen with DEs who are playing the edge position. Our edge guys can hopefully put pressure on the qb or shutdown the outside game against the run. They may also need to cover the TE or slot receivers depending on where our 5th DB is. I would guess if we can do some twists on the LOS and bring pressure from one of our 5 DBs and disguise our schemes we can be a tough defense to adjust to. I don’t know how they will deploy our secondary but they will all need to tackle.  Their work in the film room and meetings is so whatever the coaches are seeing from the box is what the players are seeing on the field. 

We have a couple of guys on this forum who played DB around the time Bubba coached defense and Schmidt played/coached who could probably give a better answer. 
 

If I had to guess, I think we will tackle better and be quicker this year. Offensively, so much depends on QB and whether or not we can protect the ball. We certainly have weapons. But that wasn’t your question. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

i think the o-side of the team will be much much improved (especially if rumors of the TE's being used more)

all eyes on eric and the d-side! (and the special teams too of course)

can't wait

[Und Princess]

28 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i think the o-side of the team will be much much improved (especially if rumors of the TE's being used more)

all eyes on eric and the d-side! (and the special teams too of course)

can't wait

I can't wait either my friend!!! @SIOUXFAN97  Can it be Saturday August 30th yet?

[SiouxFan100]

College football has started.  Great news

[Und Princess]

Just now, SiouxFan100 said:

College football has started.  Great news

It's FINALLY here baby!!!! YESSSSSSSSS!!! We finally play next week!!! Let's Go kick Kansas St's BUTT!!! I mean it too!!! Go Hawks!!!

[The Sicatoka]

6 hours ago, iramurphy said:

Beating KState would be a major upset. 
I think I can summarize some of the obvious things we need to stay in the game.

Special teams must have solid kick and punt coverage and avoid any long returns. No missed tackles. Hopefully our kicker can put KO’s in the end zone. No roughing punter or kicker penalties. 
No blocked punts. 
Hang onto FB on all punt and KO returns. No mental errors. 
 

Defensively, figure out how to cover KState TEs and  backs out of backfield in passing game. Keep receivers in front of our defenders. That means our zone coverage guys need to get on receivers as they enter their zone. That is a tough challenge for most teams at all levels if opposing qb’s have time to throw. Defenders need to stay home on defense and not over pursue/run themselves out of the play. We can’t miss tackles and we can’t drop potential interceptions. We can’t have missed tackles. We have to avoid mental errors and we need to avoid personal fouls, unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. Our new defense has to maintain outside contain while still getting pressure on the qb. &nbsp

Offensively, we want to run themselves FB but we will also need our short passing game.  It’s tough to protect our qb against good FBS teams cuz even their big guys tend to be fast.  Deng Deng can be a weapon with his size and athletic ability wherever he is on the field.  Hoskins has the speed and quickness to make guys miss and can break tackles.  He and Seidel can be tough to cover on wheel routes.  We need to involve our TE’s especially as safety valves.  If we have time to throw we have receivers who can get downfield. No fumbles, no dropped passes.  No mental errors including personal fouls, unsportsmanlike, and delay of game penalties.  The running game is expected to be our bread and butter. I think we have 5-6 guys who can be effective RBs but the key in addition to QB is our oline going to be a dominant force for us this year. 
 

I don’t know who will be the qb and, like last year, I don’t care.  The QB who plays is obviously the guy the staff thinks will give us the best chance to win. Whoever it is needs to protect the ball and move the chains. 
 

New Year, new era, Go Hawks!

 

Reader’s Digest summary:

UND must play a clean, assignment-sharp,  opportunistic game. 

[Oxbow6]

My guess is UND opens around a 4 TD dog.

[108498]

how telling is this game to the rest of the season? If UND loses by 35 or 40, do alot of fans stop following the team this year?

[Und Princess]

7 minutes ago, 108498 said:

how telling is this game to the rest of the season? If UND loses by 35 or 40, do alot of fans stop following the team this year?

Kansas St is FBS!!! So I don't think it's a measure stick to how this year will go. Plus I don't think people would stop following if we lose by 35 or 40.

[SIOUXFAN97]

11 minutes ago, 108498 said:

how telling is this game to the rest of the season? If UND loses by 35 or 40, do alot of fans stop following the team this year?

no

[ND-fan]

I don’t like that Kstate has played and we haven’t and in they lost they can correct some of mistakes and they are motivated now to make statement. Second Schmidt probably has made  mistake in that he hasn’t made decision on quarterback before week before game time. After money spent on Johnson he must have wanted new quarterback but why wait this long in naming quarterback. To me this team needed leadership and now we’re we have no true leader with leaving competition so called open. The quarterback is probably most important leader on the team and leaving this open we now have offense has  to jell around quarterback in last week of practice. To me it’s okay to have competition but this should have been settled week to ten days ago even if it costs  you quarterback. I may be wrong on this but when you have quarterback controversy is never good for team at what ever level  your playing at becomes distraction to the team. I hope I am totally off on this but I am worried about this. Third I hope we don’t come out beat up and loose couple players on game that will not figure into us making playoffs like following games that follow which could by end of the season may mean getting playoff spot.

[UND-FB-FAN]

15 hours ago, iramurphy said:

Beating KState would be a major upset. 
 

I don’t know who will be the qb and, like last year, I don’t care.  

 

Okay…..

But I agree, New Era, Go Hawks, beat kstate. Get it done. Games are won and lost up front, and UND will be marching out an FBS caliber o-line and defensive line, at least at the edges. Physical ballgame. Nothing easy. Let’s go 

[UND-FB-FAN]

8 hours ago, ND-fan said:

. Second Schmidt probably has made  mistake in that he hasn’t made decision on quarterback before week before game time.
 

Third I hope we don’t come out beat up and loose couple players on game that will not figure into us making playoffs like following games that follow which could by end of the season may mean getting playoff spot.

- Rest assured, Coach Schmidt and his staff have made plenty of decisions, they just aren’t disclosing everything to the public, for good reason. This isn’t bubba ball anymore, we actually want to win big games now and this is called gamesmanship. I’m all for it. Tune in on Saturday to see the starter, but you’ll likely hear something before that also. 
 

- FBS game are heavily factored into the FCS playoff committee’s decisions so to say the kstate game doesn’t matter in terms of a playoff spot is pure uncompetitive “tail between your leg” b.s. that bubba ball has imbedded into the culture of und football the past 10 years. No more. Play to win the game, and let the chips fall where they may. 

[gfhockey]

Do we start ronfo to be the lamb

[gfhockey]

This sounds like it’s a must win game