yzerman19 Posted Monday at 07:34 PM Posted Monday at 07:34 PM 2 minutes ago, ND_Texan said: Pretty sad when playing in the finest hockey facility in the land in front of the most dedicated fan base in all of college hockey (at home and on the road) ain't cuttin' it. It isn't for these chippaz...there is a lot more out there.... Quote
Popular Post The Sicatoka Posted Monday at 07:35 PM Popular Post Posted Monday at 07:35 PM 8 minutes ago, 78 und grad said: I’d say 3 of 4. Send strinden packing. Go sioux You are in error. 5 Quote
Tignutts Posted Monday at 07:35 PM Posted Monday at 07:35 PM 3 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: such has always been the state of the world my friend 20 years ago it was the facilities you had, now its show me the money 1 Quote
tnt Posted Monday at 07:36 PM Posted Monday at 07:36 PM 5 minutes ago, Tignutts said: so its coming down to the have's and the have not's Pretty much, and it is going to be a model that doesn't work well when more schools start dropping programs so they can compete better in their other programs. And now the NCAA is even running commercials trying to discourage fans from taking out their betting losses on the players. You've kind of created this new atmosphere yourself NCAA. 1 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted Monday at 07:37 PM Posted Monday at 07:37 PM Berry forgot (broke?) the Blais Rule: Two equal players you play the younger because they're still growing in the game. 1 Quote
Tignutts Posted Monday at 07:39 PM Posted Monday at 07:39 PM 1 minute ago, tnt said: Pretty much, and it is going to be a model that doesn't work well when more schools start dropping programs so they can compete better in their other programs. yep and some programs might as well be in Division 2 after this era of college hockey Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted Monday at 07:40 PM Posted Monday at 07:40 PM 7 minutes ago, Tignutts said: 20 years ago it was the facilities, now its show me the money what if...........20 years ago Ralph said I'm gonna put 10 million into the old Ralph to spiffy it up and then put 100 million into a trust fund for "future collegiate landscape changes" would we be better off?????????? 3 Quote
thUNDer Posted Monday at 07:41 PM Posted Monday at 07:41 PM 24 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: So fans that invest their entertainment $$$ in season tickets are now asked to invest more $$$ so that the entertainment product that they have already invested doesn't suck? No thanks. Life is too short to deal with this $#it? 1 1 Quote
Tignutts Posted Monday at 07:42 PM Posted Monday at 07:42 PM 1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: what if...........20 years ago Ralph said I'm gonna put 10 million into the old Ralph to spiffy it up and then put 100 million into a trust fund for "future collegiate landscape changes" would we be better off?????????? the money equation has opened pandora's box, there's no going back now unless rule changes 2 Quote
crb1 Posted Monday at 07:47 PM Posted Monday at 07:47 PM Isn't there a ruling coming that would effectively allow schools to pay athletes instead of having collectives etc? It does appear that we perhaps as fans, administration, alumni, have missed the boat on this whole collective and getting money to compete in this new era. This should be a wake up call to fans, alumni and administration that it is time to support and advocate for the collective. Quote
Blackheart Posted Monday at 07:47 PM Posted Monday at 07:47 PM 14 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: You. Me. Them. Everybody. Everybody. Let's see who gets that reference. One night only...at the Palace Hotel Ballroom...and it's Ladies Night. 3 Quote
Blackheart Posted Monday at 07:49 PM Posted Monday at 07:49 PM Just now, crb1 said: Isn't there a ruling coming that would effectively allow schools to pay athletes instead of having collectives etc? It does appear that we perhaps has fans, administration, alumni, have missed the boat on this whole collective and getting money to compete in this new era. This should be a wake up call to fans, alumni and administration that it is time to support and advocate for the collective. Those guys that got into so much trouble at SMU back in the 80's are probably laughing at all this. Apparently they were way ahead of their time. 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted Monday at 07:53 PM Posted Monday at 07:53 PM 5 minutes ago, Blackheart said: One night only...at the Palace Hotel Ballroom...and it's Ladies Night. Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail me now! <-- the Dylan James motto 2 Quote
78 und grad Posted Monday at 07:53 PM Posted Monday at 07:53 PM 48 minutes ago, TheFlop said: If it hadn't already happened, this marks the unfortunate turning point of when UND became just another one of the good teams in college hockey, no longer elite. Given the current environment of NIL and portal it ain't coming back either. Boisvert is exactly the type of guy that used to define UND. Skilled and plays with an edge. Him leaving is an indictment of how far this program has slid back to the pack. Und players leaving? What a shocker. Seems to me….there were posts on here saying all the players loved jax? If he doesnt get th hc job, “players were going to leave” Guess all the players didnt love jax? Go sioux! Quote
Godsmack Posted Monday at 07:53 PM Posted Monday at 07:53 PM 26 minutes ago, zqglmtv said: Daughter and son in were in Fargo for the weekend and he texted me this on Sunday: “Rode the elevator last night with 5 guys from the Western Michigan team and their trophy and one said “New UND Hockey Coach was named, Dane Jackson” another one replied “Dude that’s not going to solve their fucking problems” 😑” I guess time will tell. 😳 Odd they’d be carrying a trophy at the west regional. What trophy are they referring to? 1 Quote
cberkas Posted Monday at 07:55 PM Author Posted Monday at 07:55 PM 2 minutes ago, Godsmack said: Odd they’d be carrying a trophy at the west regional. What trophy are they referring to? It’s a mini National Title trophy but is says Regional on it Quote
.357 Posted Monday at 07:57 PM Posted Monday at 07:57 PM 49 minutes ago, Siouxdaddy said: Per a player on the team, Boisvert left for money. UND is not giving players 150 grand a year. Money talks. Hearsay. If that's the case, he would have been poached before he ever set foot on campus. Many here are making unsubstantiated claims. As soon as Boisvert says that money is the reason, or a BC/BU collective admits as much, I'll believe it. Quote
dustnyou Posted Monday at 07:58 PM Posted Monday at 07:58 PM 8 minutes ago, Blackheart said: Those guys that got into so much trouble at SMU back in the 80's are probably laughing at all this. Apparently they were way ahead of their time. I was also thinking about how irrelevant the movie Blue Chips is now lol. 1 Quote
jdub27 Posted Monday at 07:58 PM Posted Monday at 07:58 PM 18 minutes ago, tnt said: Pretty much, and it is going to be a model that doesn't work well when more schools start dropping programs so they can compete better in their other programs. And now the NCAA is even running commercials trying to discourage fans from taking out their betting losses on the players. You've kind of created this new atmosphere yourself NCAA. The NCAA is the member schools. And they have lost pretty much every fight in court to slow this down. But the P4 (or P2 even) don't want it. And everyone below them is afraid to rock the boat because at some point, they won't get the crumbs they currently get which sustain their program. 8 minutes ago, crb1 said: Isn't there a ruling coming that would effectively allow schools to pay athletes instead of having collectives etc? It does appear that we perhaps as fans, administration, alumni, have missed the boat on this whole collective and getting money to compete in this new era. This should be a wake up call to fans, alumni and administration that it is time to support and advocate for the collective. Outside collectives will still be allowed. The ruling you're talking about, which still isn't finalized, would allow schools to pay up to $20 million annually in a profit sharing. Below the big-time schools, there really isn't a whole lot of extra revenue to share because anyone below that level is running their athletic department at a deficit. And that is before any Title IX implications and other issues that have already been raised start to come up. 1 Quote
Popular Post Walsh Hall Posted Monday at 07:59 PM Popular Post Posted Monday at 07:59 PM 22 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: So fans that invest their entertainment $$$ in season tickets are now asked to invest more $$$ so that the entertainment product that they have already invested doesn't suck? No thanks. Life is too short to deal with this $#it? Most of us on this board couldn't be bigger fans/supporters of UND athletes. That said, I unfortunately agree with you. I could write a pretty nice check annually (like many on the board), but I just don't see that happening. It feels like ponying up to try to maintain the status quo, with no personal return on investment or societal benefit. This is supposed to be fun and entertaining to take my mind off actual life for a while. My donations will continue to go to local causes that hopefully better the community, not some highly skilled 18-year-old mercenary who doesn't care about UND and is just looking for the highest # as a stopping point along the way to greener pastures. I don't know if I'm in the minority on this, but from my perspective it's sad. 17 Quote
Tignutts Posted Monday at 07:59 PM Posted Monday at 07:59 PM i think what's gonna happen here is this is gonna be seen by players as a wage gap, "this guys making this much why am I not" and they just leave" The high ground UND should take is to get rid of compensation and just be like "if you wanna play for us you're playing for the pride and tradition" Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted Monday at 08:00 PM Posted Monday at 08:00 PM 1 hour ago, KTF said: UND is among the highest revenue generating programs in all of college hockey, hell they are probably the highest! I know some will say "but the Big Cheese generates billions a year and no way UND can compete!", well hockey at the Big Cheese is usually an afterthought and all the NIL money goes to football and the left-over crumbs are given to the basketball teams....hockey there is irrelevant and less than an afterthought to the big donors and media. So I call bull$%!# on the UND is getting killed because of NIL. Now I'm not from the area nor a fan of UND (but have upmost respect for the program!) and I'm telling you guys that this storm will pass and UND will be able to compete with anybody! I've been saying this forever. In the B1G, hockey ranks third at best (behind FB and MBB). If WBB is doing well, hockey slides down to fourth. Most B1G alums probably don't even realize their alma mater might have a hockey program. I imagine Arizona State is similar. BC and BU are different; their other programs are an afterthought nationally. Same with Denver. Only BC has football. All three of those schools will have to step up their NIL efforts. As will UND. UND's passionate fan and alumni base will have to step up on NIL. I believe if they are told how important this is, they will respond. Same with local and regional businesses in North Dakota and Minnesota. The defeatists who are throwing in the towel (you know who you are) disappoint me. UND's entire history is filled with examples of overcoming adversity and competing against bigger schools with bigger enrollments in bigger cities. This is just another bump in the road to navigate. Thank God you guys weren't around when our program was getting started. Jackson's press conference on Thursday will be crucial in calming the fan and alumni base down and charting a new course forward. I'll be watching it live. 2 Quote
RhettRingers Posted Monday at 08:01 PM Posted Monday at 08:01 PM 1 minute ago, Walsh Hall said: Most of us on this board couldn't be bigger fans/supporters of UND athletes. That said, I unfortunately agree with you. I could write a pretty nice check annually (like many on the board), but I just don't see that happening. It feels like ponying up to try to maintain the status quo, with no personal return on investment or societal benefit. This is supposed to be fun and entertaining to take my mind off actual life for a while. My donations will continue to go to local causes that hopefully better the community, not some highly skilled 18-year-old mercenary who doesn't care about UND and is just looking for the highest # as a stopping point along the way to greener pastures. I don't know if I'm in the minority on this, but from my perspective it's sad. Couldn't agree more with this post. Quote
brianvf Posted Monday at 08:01 PM Posted Monday at 08:01 PM Just now, fightingsioux4life said: Jackson's press conference on Thursday will be crucial in calming the fan and alumni base down and charting a new course forward. I'll be watching it live. That press conference just got a bit more interesting too with the announcements made today. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted Monday at 08:01 PM Posted Monday at 08:01 PM 1 minute ago, Tignutts said: i think what's gonna happen here is this is gonna be seen by players as a wage gap, "this guys making this much why am I not" and they just leave" The high ground UND should take is to get rid of compensation and just be like "if you wanna play for us you're playing for the pride and tradition" So we should join the CCHA? 1 Quote
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