tnt Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 hours ago, gfhockey said: Some teams have down years this team is having out down year its how we respond next year I would expect we rebound next year, as there isn't a regional in Fargo, but the following two years there is, so that could continue the trend. 1 Quote
RhettRingers Posted February 12 Posted February 12 When's the last time we've had a goalie not from the portal that could actually steal a game. Maybe Scheel? or do you have to go back to Zane. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 12 Posted February 12 13 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: When's the last time we've had a goalie not from the portal that could actually steal a game. Maybe Scheel? or do you have to go back to Zane. It's pretty bad when we cannot remember something like that. Quote
Popular Post InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted February 12 Popular Post Posted February 12 3 hours ago, UND1983 said: It's almost embarrassing, well no it is embarrassing, how low of expectations UND fans have. The hockey program is supposed to be the D1 blueblood power of the NCAA and it doesn't win sh*t. Berry would've been fired five years ago if this was a program that demands winning. Our weak-minded fanbase is more than happy to just show up at the Ralph to look cool & take selfies. The majority of people don’t live and die vicariously through the success of a college hockey team. They also (smartly) avoid this perpetual echo chamber of negativity because it does not accomplish a thing but bring the program and everyone associated with it to the lowest common denominator of discourse. I can’t believe how worked up some of you get in here. I love this program and have been going to games since the early 90s but, my god, an NCAA title doesn’t hold the meaning to life or fill the hole you hope it will. The weak-mindedness to me is beating up this team on a message board every time anything goes wrong and turning yourself into a victim of a supposed drop in fandom level from where you estimate they should be. 4 5 Quote
UND1983 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: The majority of people don’t live and die vicariously through the success of a college hockey team. They also (smartly) avoid this perpetual echo chamber of negativity because it does not accomplish a thing but bring the program and everyone associated with it to the lowest common denominator of discourse. I can’t believe how worked up some of you get in here. I love this program and have been going to games since the early 90s but, my god, an NCAA title doesn’t hold the meaning to life or fill the hole you hope it will. The weak-mindedness to me is beating up this team on a message board every time anything goes wrong and turning yourself into a victim of a supposed drop in fandom level from where you estimate they should be. LOL - Exhibit A 1 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 minute ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: The majority of people don’t live and die vicariously through the success of a college hockey team. They also (smartly) avoid this perpetual echo chamber of negativity because it does not accomplish a thing but bring the program and everyone associated with it to the lowest common denominator of discourse. I can’t believe how worked up some of you get in here. I love this program and have been going to games since the early 90s but, my god, an NCAA title doesn’t hold the meaning to life or fill the hole you hope it will. The weak-mindedness to me is beating up this team on a message board every time anything goes wrong and turning yourself into a victim of a supposed drop in fandom level from where you estimate they should be. This is a strawman argument. Just because the success of a particular team doesn't "hold the meaning to life" doesn't mean that we should just be fine and dandy with whatever is happening, no matter how messed up it is. I was there at the end of Gino's tenure. I do not wish to repeat that experience. 1 Quote
sioux24/7 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 24 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: When's the last time we've had a goalie not from the portal that could actually steal a game. Maybe Scheel? or do you have to go back to Zane. Scheel. He was a stud. 1 Quote
SIOUXpucks Posted February 12 Posted February 12 23 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said: LOL can we not do this? It's pure speculation. Until something happens of course it's speculation, and that's why I didn't share any names, because I definitely agree that's not real fair. The point is that there's considerable unrest in the locker room and if it doesn't get under control, there could be significant fallout. The players (or at least a subset) have lost faith in Brad and have more appreciation and respect for someone else, and that too is adding to the drama of the situation. If Brad can show true leadership and right the ship, more power to him. I don't want anyone fired as much as I just want to see the program thrive in a positive environment. 1 2 Quote
RhettRingers Posted February 12 Posted February 12 We let Hellsten walk, should have been playing over DeRidder, he wasn't too bad at UNH...Now he's playing in the top league in Sweden. 2 Quote
brianvf Posted February 12 Posted February 12 10 minutes ago, SIOUXpucks said: The players (or at least a subset) have lost faith in Brad and have more appreciation and respect for someone else, and that too is adding to the drama of the situation. More respect for someone else on our coaching staff, or outside of the program? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 minute ago, brianvf said: More respect for someone else on our coaching staff, or outside of the program? I am guessing one of the assistants. Quote
RhettRingers Posted February 12 Posted February 12 We just need to get a picture of Bubs sleeping in team meetings, that will get the ball rolling. 1 Quote
ILOVEHOCKEY15 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 21 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: We just need to get a picture of Bubs sleeping in team meetings, that will get the ball rolling. I haven't posted in years but if you are comparing Brad Berry to Bubba you are crazy. Quote
Blackheart Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: The majority of people don’t live and die vicariously through the success of a college hockey team. They also (smartly) avoid this perpetual echo chamber of negativity because it does not accomplish a thing but bring the program and everyone associated with it to the lowest common denominator of discourse. I like that...can we put that in the SiouxSports banner? **SiouxSports.com** "The Perpetual Echo Chamber of Negativity" 2 Quote
SIOUXELEVENS Posted February 12 Author Posted February 12 You cannot push a chain but you can pull it along as long as the links want to follow you. If there problems in the locker room and it seems like there is Berry is never going to be successful like that. Quote
tnt Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: The majority of people don’t live and die vicariously through the success of a college hockey team. They also (smartly) avoid this perpetual echo chamber of negativity because it does not accomplish a thing but bring the program and everyone associated with it to the lowest common denominator of discourse. I can’t believe how worked up some of you get in here. I love this program and have been going to games since the early 90s but, my god, an NCAA title doesn’t hold the meaning to life or fill the hole you hope it will. The weak-mindedness to me is beating up this team on a message board every time anything goes wrong and turning yourself into a victim of a supposed drop in fandom level from where you estimate they should be. You are absolutely correct, this isn't life or death and it is just a leisure activity. In saying that, why are any of us supporting something from an institution that doesn't hold the value on anything more than that of a leisure pursuit? The fact that we are paying a half a million a year to a coach, and goodness knows how much for the entire coaching staff, doesn't meet with it being fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things. I would also argue that those that feel like that should in no way be supporting something like NIL, when there are more important things in society where that money could go. Goodness knows how much an education costs now, so for a leisurely pursuit, a free education should be more than enough. Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, tnt said: You are absolutely correct, this isn't life or death and it is just a leisure activity. In saying that, why are any of us supporting something from an institution that doesn't hold the value on anything more than that of a leisure pursuit? The fact that we are paying a half a million a year to a coach, and goodness knows how much for the entire coaching staff, doesn't meet with it being fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things. I would also argue that those that feel like that should be in no way supporting something like NIL when there are more important things in society where that money could go. Goodness knows how much an education costs now, so for a leisurely pursuit, a free education should be more than enough. Because it's fun? Or it's supposed to be at least. Quote
tnt Posted February 12 Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: Because it's fun? Or it's supposed to be at least. Obviously, it is less fun when the team isn't winning, and when that starts becoming more of an issue like it was for Minnesota, you saw how the fans reacted to that. It is plain to see that apathy is setting in here as well. 2 Quote
siouxkid12 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: The majority of people don’t live and die vicariously through the success of a college hockey team. They also (smartly) avoid this perpetual echo chamber of negativity because it does not accomplish a thing but bring the program and everyone associated with it to the lowest common denominator of discourse. I can’t believe how worked up some of you get in here. I love this program and have been going to games since the early 90s but, my god, an NCAA title doesn’t hold the meaning to life or fill the hole you hope it will. The weak-mindedness to me is beating up this team on a message board every time anything goes wrong and turning yourself into a victim of a supposed drop in fandom level from where you estimate they should be. You are right that most people don't live and die vicariously through the success of a college hockey and from my perspective, I don't think people are. I believe you are assuming that most people here are demanding a national title every year but I believe most are just unhappy with how the last 8 years have gone and want to see some sort of success (making the NCAA tournament and winning a couple games). That expectation isn't that unreasonable, I mean Brad says that in a lot of interviews himself. So if the coach is holding himself accountable in saying what is the expectation each year, why shouldn't the fans have that same mentality? I remember games from the early 90's and you couldn't even give away tickets to games because they were terrible, why would we want to go back to those days? 1 Quote
siouxkid12 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, tnt said: Obviously, it is less fun when the team isn't winning, and when that starts becoming more of an issue like it was for Minnesota, you saw how the fans reacted to that. It is plain to see that apathy is setting in here as well. The difference is, the fans in the MPLS area showed the UofM they were disappointed in the product, and they saw a huge reduction in attendance. Up in the Red River Valley, I doubt you'd see that kind of reaction from fans because Jody and company make it pretty entertaining to go to. It also helps that it's Grand Forks and there aren't many other options to do in the wintertime. 1 Quote
1972 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: The difference is, the fans in the MPLS area showed the UofM they were disappointed in the product, and they saw a huge reduction in attendance. Up in the Red River Valley, I doubt you'd see that kind of reaction from fans because Jody and company make it pretty entertaining to go to. It also helps that it's Grand Forks and there aren't many other options to do in the wintertime. those are valid points...but, we are almost to the point it is cheaper to go to BWW and get a bite to eat, watch the game( or a bunch of games) have a couple beers, and go home. the alure of the Ralph isnt what you think it is, without a winning program(or at least an intertaining program). especially if its brutal cold out. 2 Quote
90siouxfan Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Lots of good points, the theory that fan expectations drive success makes me scratch my head.... most fans are not movers and shakers that can even make the needle wiggle.... and those type if fans don't muck it up on message boards. If they do, hit me up KEM, single and ready to mingle. Quote
siouxkid12 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 15 minutes ago, 1972 said: those are valid points...but, we are almost to the point it is cheaper to go to BWW and get a bite to eat, watch the game( or a bunch of games) have a couple beers, and go home. the alure of the Ralph isnt what you think it is, without a winning program(or at least an intertaining program). especially if its brutal cold out. You are not wrong on the costs, but I don't think that is an issue to most up there anyway. I have season tickets up in the bar area and the amount of people that are just in the bar drinking and not paying attention to the game is astounding. Yes, the alure of the Ralph is lost on most people but it's still a very nice arena. I think that most people who go to games are there just to say they were there (kinda like "keeping up with the jones's"), same with most of the people that go to these "destination games". 2 Quote
1972 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 28 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: You are not wrong on the costs, but I don't think that is an issue to most up there anyway. I have season tickets up in the bar area and the amount of people that are just in the bar drinking and not paying attention to the game is astounding. Yes, the alure of the Ralph is lost on most people but it's still a very nice arena. I think that most people who go to games are there just to say they were there (kinda like "keeping up with the jones's"), same with most of the people that go to these "destination games". oh for sure...have sat up in the bar area before, and it is just a gab session. most of the lower bowl is about the same, as well. if the program continues down its current path, it will start to turn off the cassual fan Quote
gfhockey Posted February 12 Posted February 12 The Berry family is one of the best in town bubs as the playas call him will give shirt off his back to anyone Quote
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