2024 Frozen Four

[.357]

3 hours ago, Irish said:

Once again Denver gets it done while we sit and watch - with a team that could beat them.  We hear nothing from our hockey program but Bubbs needs to seriously figure it out and get it done.  Are their any changes made?

I don't live anywhere near GF, so I don't know the kinds of questions the local media asks Berry after a loss. Do Schlossman or Hennessy ask him tough questions & does Berry ever take responsibility when they lose a game? Or is it a big circle jerk?

One question I would very much want asked of Berry: "What are you going to do differently next year to get the team ready for the playoffs so you avoid another early exit?" Seems simple enough & Berry's answer would be very telling about where his mindset is at.

[brianvf]

12 minutes ago, .357 said:

I don't live anywhere near GF, so I don't know the kinds of questions the local media asks Berry after a loss. Do Schlossman or Hennessy ask him tough questions & does Berry ever admit that it's his fault when they lose a game? Or is it a big circle jerk?

One question I would very much want asked of Berry: "What are you going to do differently next year to get the team ready for the playoffs & avoid another early exit?" Seems simple enough & Berry's answer would be very telling about where his mindset is at.

Looking at Herald articles and watching post-game interviews, for the most part it's pretty typical questions of any college or pro athletic teams by local media. 
As far as admitting fault, how often is a game loss entirely the fault of the coaching staff...or the players...or the game plan?
Similarly, after a win, how much of the credit should go to the coaching staff...or the players...or the game plan?
The vast majority of the time, it is a combo of all those factors and others that contribute to any win or loss.  And heck, maybe even some good old-fashioned puck luck <gasp!>. 

As far as having your question asked of Berry...if the media won't ask, and you really want to know...you can always ask Berry yourself.  His email address is publicly posted on the official Fighting Hawks website along with all the coaching staff.  From personal experience, the coaching staff is usually pretty willing to discuss hockey, even with commoners such as us. 

https://fightinghawks.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/coaches

bradley.berry@und.edu
dane.jackson@und.edu
karl.goehring@und.edu
dillon.simpson@und.edu

[gfNDfan]

9 hours ago, Wilbur said:

If BC wins I'm the champ in a different bracket where I'm not the kiss of death.

Fly eagles fly. 

BC wins 4-2.  Book it. 

So wrong...so wrong - BOOK IT!

[gfNDfan]

3 hours ago, Hayduke1 said:

So 

the highest scoring team in the NCAA won the national championship with their defense and goaltending?  
 

Oh my. 

YES!  It's called preparation, coaching and BUYING INTO those 2 things.  Winner Winner 10 TIME CHICKEN DINNER for Denver...denver?  YES DENVER!!!  

[.357]

42 minutes ago, brianvf said:

Looking at Herald articles and watching post-game interviews, for the most part it's pretty typical questions of any college or pro athletic teams by local media. 
As far as admitting fault, how often is a game loss entirely the fault of the coaching staff...or the players...or the game plan?
Similarly, after a win, how much of the credit should go to the coaching staff...or the players...or the game plan?
The vast majority of the time, it is a combo of all those factors and others that contribute to any win or loss.  And heck, maybe even some good old-fashioned puck luck <gasp!>. 

As far as having your question asked of Berry...if the media won't ask, and you really want to know...you can always ask Berry yourself.  His email address is publicly posted on the official Fighting Hawks website along with all the coaching staff.  From personal experience, the coaching staff is usually pretty willing to discuss hockey, even with commoners such as us. 

https://fightinghawks.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/coaches

bradley.berry@und.edu
dane.jackson@und.edu
karl.goehring@und.edu
dillon.simpson@und.edu

I hear the players sometimes admitting they didn't play up to their standards, but I've yet to hear the HC take accountability, at least a modicum, for a bad performance. And of course, it's usually a combination of factors for a loss; I didn't mean to imply it's solely the HC's fault. I'm guessing Berry wouldn't publicly admit to any gaffes, because he would then be incriminating himself. But I do hear pro & college coaches sometimes admit (not often) that maybe they should have done some things differently. I'm mostly interested in Berry's taking accountability in the postseason, because the same results happen with different players over the years. A pattern is developing, just like with the football program.

There's a big difference between Schlossman or Hennessy asking Berry what he plans on doing differently next year, and me; because with S or H it would then be on record for the public to know what he said. With me, Berry can just ignore my email & not feel any pressure about making any meaningful changes. 

Thanks for the links.

[MafiaMan]

1 hour ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Carle did his homework over the 48 hours between games. There were a half dozen plays where BC passed on the grade A for a tap in attempt and DU never flinched, taking away the easy goal. Davis also Hunswick'd 'em.

That’s a slap at Davis for sure.  UND’s mostly-weak shots on goal against Michigan in 2011 paled in comparison to some of the BC attempts on Saturday evening.  

[Sioux>Bison]

6 hours ago, cowboys5xsbs said:

I'm sick to my stomach seeing denver win

But hey we don’t need any big changes to our program……

[Sioux>Bison]

2 hours ago, .357 said:

I don't live anywhere near GF, so I don't know the kinds of questions the local media asks Berry after a loss. Do Schlossman or Hennessy ask him tough questions & does Berry ever take responsibility when they lose a game? Or is it a big circle jerk?

One question I would very much want asked of Berry: "What are you going to do differently next year to get the team ready for the playoffs so you avoid another early exit?" Seems simple enough & Berry's answer would be very telling about where his mindset is at.

Schlossman won’t ever address the elephant in the room. He wouldn’t even go on Dom Izzo’s Hot Mic show for a season wrap up . Did the Powers not let Brad go back on because they don’t want Dom to ask the obvious glaring questions we all want addressed. Soft as the Fargo media is on Fargo football!

[Sioux>Bison]

7 hours ago, burd said:

Denver seems to be outhustling BC.

Hustle>> Talent

[SJHovey]

Minnesota, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, BC, BU. Every blue blood except Denver. Teams with an embarrassment of talent, riches and advantages. And all with a longer period of natty futility than UND, an apparent washed up has been.

Shut them down. They should be ashamed of themselves.

[burd]

1 hour ago, SJHovey said:

Minnesota, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, BC, BU. Every blue blood except Denver. Teams with an embarrassment of talent, riches and advantages. And all with a longer period of natty futility than UND, an apparent washed up has been.

Shut them down. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Then there's Hovey's voice of reason.  

[Oxbow6]

Penne Rosa >>> Natty Lights

[Wilbur]

7 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

So wrong...so wrong - BOOK IT!

Wrong before and I'll certainly be wrong again I guess.  You can book that as well! 

[SIOUXELEVENS]

3 hours ago, SJHovey said:

Minnesota, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, BC, BU. Every blue blood except Denver. Teams with an embarrassment of talent, riches and advantages. And all with a longer period of natty futility than UND, an apparent washed up has been.

Shut them down. They should be ashamed of themselves.

But most of those teams have multiple wins in the post season unlike our favorite team. I have said this before I think Berry puts way to much emphasis on the regular season box checking and they have nothing left in the tank. Should worry about playing their best hockey when it counts. His record is his. He has changed assistants , players etc with same results. 

[Wilbur]

7 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

YES!  It's called preparation, coaching and BUYING INTO those 2 things.  Winner Winner 10 TIME CHICKEN DINNER for Denver...denver?  YES DENVER!!!  

Congrats to your pioneers!

[Wilbur]

9 hours ago, hockey1 said:

Curious to know if you were cheering for Denver to win?  Wondering if the conference alliance is more important than a rival winning a championship.

I'm guilty of this.  I put my money on the Eagles, but wanted the NCHC conference foe to win the game.

If it was Duluth-BC I probably would have wanted BC to win for more than just my wallet.  

 

 

[siouxweet]

11 hours ago, SiouxFanatic said:

This is going to be remembered for a long long time. Good job, Gauthier. 

With a name like Cutter he was groomed to play pro hockey with a silver spoon in his mouth. 

[siouxweet]

6 hours ago, Sioux&gt;Bison said:

Schlossman won’t ever address the elephant in the room. He wouldn’t even go on Dom Izzo’s Hot Mic show for a season wrap up . Did the Powers not let Brad go back on because they don’t want Dom to ask the obvious glaring questions we all want addressed. Soft as the Fargo media is on Fargo football!

Schlossman is a UND apologist plain and simple.  Being a UND beat writer you have to be in order not to be kicked out of the club.  Even in his wrap article he was saying UND isn't that far off.  Yes if you just looked at this season and that they lost to Michigan by one goal and beat DU 3 out of 4 then yes they aren't too far off.  This goes way beyond this season and you can't be too far off for 8 years.

[Oxbow6]

15 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

Schlossman is a UND apologist plain and simple.  Being a UND beat writer you have to be in order not to be kicked out of the club.  Even in his wrap article he was saying UND isn't that far off.  Yes if you just looked at this season and that they lost to Michigan by one goal and beat DU 3 out of 4 then yes they aren't too far off.  This goes way beyond this season and you can't be too far off for 8 years.

This.....^^^ 100%

They aren't really that close. AIC is the only correct answer. Let that soak in.

 

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

56 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

But most of those teams have multiple wins in the post season unlike our favorite team. I have said this before I think Berry puts way to much emphasis on the regular season box checking and they have nothing left in the tank. Should worry about playing their best hockey when it counts. His record is his. He has changed assistants , players etc with same results. 

Yeah I'd much rather have been to the Frozen Four a few times and lost to Quinnipiac in OT last year vs winning our title In 2016. Is that what we're saying?

Feel like I'm being gaslit every time I come on this website because the bolded is exactly why everyone wanted to run Hakstol out of town.  Now we're content hanging some postseason win banners even if it means a 20-30 year NCAA Title drought?

[shep]

I was one who wanted Hak out.

I still believe that had he stayed on as coach there would not have been a Natty.

Call it bad luck, a hot goalie, but something ALWAYS got in the way of a Title.

 

[SIOUXELEVENS]

But now he can’t even win a post season game , they beat Omaha in St. Paul we play is Sioux Falls in front of a packed house full of UND fans. I think Berry is a great guy just not a good head coach (in the post season #penarose)

[MafiaMan]

52 minutes ago, shep said:

I was one who wanted Hak out.

I still believe that had he stayed on as coach there would not have been a Natty.

Call it bad luck, a hot goalie, but something ALWAYS got in the way of a Title.

Objection.  Speculation.  

So it’s just plain luck that DU beat SCSU in the Frozen Faceoff semifinal in OT, UMass in the regional semifinal in 2OT, and BU in the Frozen Four semifinal in OT while Hak is just cursed with bad luck and it was good that he left? 

But yet, there are plenty of Berry defenders blaming Covid, a game-delay against BU for a review, and UMD not having to play Michigan and getting some rest and parading these out as VALID excuses.  Seems like something is ALWAYS getting in the way of an NCAA tournament win these days — or even a tournament appearance in 3 cases.  But excuses are OK now ‘cuz 2016.

[Hayduke1]

9 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

YES!  It's called preparation, coaching and BUYING INTO those 2 things.  Winner Winner 10 TIME CHICKEN DINNER for Denver...denver?  YES DENVER!!!  

Carle is a hell of a good coach.  I wonder when an NHL team will snag him? 

[Oxbow6]

For DU to win that natty to get to 10 without a nap room, anti gravity beds, the Penrose and a portal goalie is pretty impressive.