fightingsioux4life Posted March 9 Posted March 9 1 hour ago, iramurphy said: I would guess he will bring her back under your stated conditions. I’m not commenting what I think we should do, only what I think will happen. He will justify not doing a buyout based on player development of some of the younger players, the year end improvement, the players like her, she has improved her staff, and she has some good recruits committed. Primarily, it’s $$$. If we keep extending coaches to keep them from coaching in a lame duck year, they will basically have a lifetime contract. That is insane and completely unacceptable. Chaves needs to go. I am tired of his bull$h!t excuses for extending coaches who have poor track records. We moved up to Division 1 over 15 years ago. It's time we start taking it seriously. andrew.armacost@und.edu Please tell President Armacost that you are sick of the continued mediocrity and you want a renewed commitment to success in UND athletics. 3 Quote
forksandspoons Posted March 9 Posted March 9 If I had to keep one of the two bb coaches, I’d lean toward Mal. Sather has been here longer. Try to keep everyone together for next year as the women didn’t have a senior. The new assistant coach seemed to have made an impact already in year 1. The men’s team will certainly look much different (again) next year and doesn’t have any hope IMO 1 Quote
ND-fan Posted March 9 Author Posted March 9 I totally disagree with you on this one women’s basketball has not been affected by NIL money as has men’s basketball and transfer portal. In Mallory tenure we have had only one transfer that was affected by moving on to better division I schools that was Olivia Lane who went on to Grand Canyon. Other transfers in women’s program were players transferring down to division II. The men’s side is has had multiple players that have transferred each year and NilL money has been significant. Coaching on men’s side were dealing with constant movement of talented players so each year developing new roster and trying to find personal to fill your system. Mallory has had turnover but her recruiting classes have number busts on high level recruits and hasn’t developed talent until this year with hiring of Hutter. I wonder last year firing of all her assistants was not suggested by AD and she was given suggestions to improve the coaching. The question now comes did she show enough improvement to continue or are they to point of making change. I have to believe because we have young talented group now would be good time to make change because with right coaching we could become contender in the Summit conference. I also disagree coaching change is about money Mallory’s salary little over 250 thousand if we can swallow Bubba buyout we can make change on women’s basketball. This is about treating coach that has deep ties to UND and has support in the UND community and alumni with respect if she is replaced. This is not to say that Sather has long leash but probably has another year grace with the program. I don’t think they want to make another coaching change in major sports this year but if they do I think it would be on Women’s side. Quote
sioux24/7 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 The women haven’t been affected by the portal likely due to the lack of talent. I suppose Borowicz was probably approached about transferring but other than that who would have been in Mal’s time? Having said that, I do think there are 3 players on the current roster that could be at risk of transferring due to their talent level. That would be Schiller, Pemberton and Ibrahim. Schiller would shock me due to her ties. She’s also small so not sure how high of a level she can play at but she’s a great player for us. Pemberton and Ibrahim though? Who knows. If we lose 1 of the 3 listed above, I’m not sure why we delay the inevitable if there is an ultimatum made on next year being a 20+ win season. Find it hard to fathom that can be done without those 3 on the roster unless there’s a home run portal find. 1 Quote
ND-fan Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 It’s not impossible for Canadian players to transfer but it does require obtaining needed paperwork and correct visa to transfer. Second to get NIL money most Canadian players visas don’t allow them to receive money when in the US but can with proper visas but that would take time getting proper visas which most don’t have. Pemberton and Ibrahim are both Canadian players. Like I said only player that has transferred to another DI university was Olivia Lane and I think there may have been some NIL money involved there. Some players I think that could have transferred to other D I schools that played here during Mallory’s tenure are Julia Fleecs, Clair Orth, Melissa Leet, Danniger, and Kacie Borowicz. Quote
ND-fan Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 Chaves has made no comments on basketball programs on direction they plan to go on coaches. The longer it goes more likely we’re staying status quo. If your going to make change sooner you would want to make change to get new coach in with portal opening up in few days I see there have been some changes in Summit on coaching and more rumors of coaching movements. The biggest one out there is Aaron Johnston could be candidate for Wisconsin job but will he ever leave Brookings. A Big 10 job might entice him move on with money they could pay him where he could receive life changing money and have resources to go all way for championship and this would still close to his roots. Mussic at ORU is also rumored to be having opportunities to move on. Maybe nothing happens on these fronts but if something does change could be time for opportunity to move this program forward and become factor in upper Midwest. Quote
HockeyHawk Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, ND-fan said: Chaves has made no comments on basketball programs on direction they plan to go on coaches. The longer it goes more likely we’re staying status quo. If your going to make change sooner you would want to make change to get new coach in with portal opening up in few days I see there have been some changes in Summit on coaching and more rumors of coaching movements. The biggest one out there is Aaron Johnston could be candidate for Wisconsin job but will he ever leave Brookings. A Big 10 job might entice him move on with money they could pay him where he could receive life changing money and have resources to go all way for championship and this would still close to his roots. Mussic at ORU is also rumored to be having opportunities to move on. Maybe nothing happens on these fronts but if something does change could be time for opportunity to move this program forward and become factor in upper Midwest. Chaves won’t say anything. His entire tenure he has had no plan or backbone from what it seems like. What was his plan from the beginning? Why are all the sports struggling? i have said this before I don’t think every coach at UND is bad. I think a bad athletic department is bringing the coaching down. Quote
Fan247247 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 15 hours ago, ND-fan said: It’s not impossible for Canadian players to transfer but it does require obtaining needed paperwork and correct visa to transfer. Second to get NIL money most Canadian players visas don’t allow them to receive money when in the US but can with proper visas but that would take time getting proper visas which most don’t have. Pemberton and Ibrahim are both Canadian players. Like I said only player that has transferred to another DI university was Olivia Lane and I think there may have been some NIL money involved there. Some players I think that could have transferred to other D I schools that played here during Mallory’s tenure are Julia Fleecs, Clair Orth, Melissa Leet, Danniger, and Kacie Borowicz. False Mahogany Cottingham transferred to Delaware State D1. Quote
gfhockey Posted March 17 Posted March 17 47 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said: Darn writing on wall for mal Quote
Kab Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Can’t blame her i wish her good luck probably get to Washington and closer to home 1 Quote
NDPROUD Posted March 18 Posted March 18 I see more to come. Hopefully now the coaching staff will change the culture of this team for the better with the right recruiting. They need recruits with a WE instead of ME mentality for a winning team. Quote
shep Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Kiera was a nice, create your own shot player, but was an indifferent defensive player. I do not see here move on to higher competition 1 Quote
NDPROUD Posted March 18 Posted March 18 17 minutes ago, shep said: Kiera was a nice, create your own shot player, but was an indifferent defensive player. I do not see here move on to higher competition Agreed. Scoring is one thing, but 1.2 assists, 3.7 turnovers per game does not reflect a team player. Quote
Fan247247 Posted March 18 Posted March 18 25 minutes ago, NDPROUD said: Agreed. Scoring is one thing, but 1.2 assists, 3.7 turnovers per game does not reflect a team player. Best season stats in UND history say different… 1 Quote
sioux24/7 Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Will this be the only one though? What about Ibrahim? Feels like she could maybe play at a higher level with her defensive ability. Quote
HoopsFan03 Posted March 18 Posted March 18 49 minutes ago, shep said: Kiera was a nice, create your own shot player, but was an indifferent defensive player. I do not see here move on to higher competition She will in fact, play at a higher level. 0 question regarding that. Quote
NDPROUD Posted March 18 Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, Fan247247 said: Best season stats in UND history say different… Just saying she could be a better player. SO many times she drove in with her selfish blinders on, only to dribble it off her foot under pressure. 1 Quote
NewUndFan Posted March 18 Posted March 18 10 hours ago, sioux24/7 said: Will this be the only one though? What about Ibrahim? Feels like she could maybe play at a higher level with her defensive ability. I think we will have a better chance keeping her since she is from Winnipeg. I really hope we can keep her. I hope Mal can finally use the portal and help this team out. Quote
DL Sioux Posted March 18 Posted March 18 18 hours ago, F'n Hawks said: She can't be leaving for NIL, correct?? Quote
Popular Post UND92,96 Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 1 minute ago, DL Sioux said: She can't be leaving for NIL, correct?? I have to think this is more a matter of being 1500 miles from home, and having put up numbers good enough to play for Washington or Washington State or Gonzaga. I can't really blame her. 7 Quote
ND-fan Posted March 18 Author Posted March 18 I was hoping for change in coaching we need to find a coach where we at least get to winning percentage to turn this program around. Chaves again is just letting things ride but if we’re going to keep high end talent we have to start winning because these players want to play in programs that can compete and have chance to play in the big dance. This is why SDSU has been keeping their players besides how Summit tournament location works for them to basically giving them home court advantage huge recruiting benefit for their recruits have family in short driving distance to watch these players. Chaves and other athletic directors need fight on leveling playing field even if it costs money otherwise conference means nothing if advantages benefit one or two teams. The basketball programs need to be successful in their own right in athletic department it one most popular and financial benefiting in college sports and we have had history of being basketball power in past and people supported it when we were competitive. 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 18 Posted March 18 12 minutes ago, ND-fan said: I was hoping for change in coaching we need to find a coach where we at least get to winning percentage to turn this program around. Chaves again is just letting things ride but if we’re going to keep high end talent we have to start winning because these players want to play in programs that can compete and have chance to play in the big dance. This is why SDSU has been keeping their players besides how Summit tournament location works for them to basically giving them home court advantage huge recruiting benefit for their recruits have family in short driving distance to watch these players. Chaves and other athletic directors need fight on leveling playing field even if it costs money otherwise conference means nothing if advantages benefit one or two teams. The basketball programs need to be successful in their own right in athletic department it one most popular and financial benefiting in college sports and we have had history of being basketball power in past and people supported it when we were competitive. Amen to all of this. Quote
tnt Posted March 18 Posted March 18 16 hours ago, Fan247247 said: Best season stats in UND history say different… I guess I don't see the categories that were referenced. Quote
planet2county Posted March 19 Posted March 19 22 hours ago, NDPROUD said: Agreed. Scoring is one thing, but 1.2 assists, 3.7 turnovers per game does not reflect a team player. 24-25 Pemberton-517 points/115 TO, 23-24 Borowicz-568 points/132 TO, 22-23 Borowicz- 674 points/138 TO, 17-18 Freije 342 points/ 86 TO, 15-16 Dyer 389 points/104 TO, 12-13 Buck 309 points/73 TO, and 10-11 Youngblut 432 points/94 TO. Klabo and Freije had 1.3 and 1.7 assists per game in 17-18. Borowicz had 46 steals last year. Pemberton had 36 this year. Schiller had 40 this year. Quote
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