2024 UND Football

[The Sicatoka]

17 hours ago, wheelsup said:

If you really think Danny will be a good head coach at UND in the future the best thing for him and UND is that he left to go learn in a good program outside of Bubba.  If he had stuck around and Bubba retired one of two things would have happened.

• whomever the AD is would have promoted Danny and everyone would have continued to complain about how inbred UND football is.
• The AD would have conducted a wider search and Danny would have gotten passed over.

While maybe not the best thing for 2024 UND football.. in my opinion clearly the best thing for Danny and potentially UND football long term.  Im still annoyed as I was really looking forward to seeing if the offensive problem in 2023 was Danny or Tommy (by the way.. defense was still 98% of the problem with 2023).

Kelly Howe's UNDFootball360 article on topic expands on othat train of thought. 

Danny made the best move for Danny. I do not begrudge him that. 

[nodak651]

42 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Kelly Howe's UNDFootball360 article on topic expands on othat train of thought. 

Danny made the best move for Danny. I do not begrudge him that. 

Also, it's gotta be tough if you're an OC when the head coach doesn't want to retire, and you want, and are ready, to be head coach for the same team.  Danny being successful would have increased the likelihood of a Bubba extension, blocking his path to the head coaching job.  A dilemma.

[homer]

24 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Also, it's gotta be tough if you're an OC when the head coach doesn't want to retire, and you want, and are ready, to be head coach for the same team.  Danny being successful would have increased the likelihood of a Bubba extension, blocking his path to the head coaching job.  A dilemma.

Risk vs reward

Does SDSU success give him a better path?  If the offense is successful and you’re not the OC, what’s your next step?  Another OC job??

If a new OC comes in next year and averages 30 ppg, what’s the perception of this years offense.  If a new OC can retain the talent in place having a successful year is not out of the question.  
 

Again, take the names out of it, if the next HC is a position coach from an FCS school I can about imagine the posts on here. 

[nodak651]

28 minutes ago, homer said:

Risk vs reward

Does SDSU success give him a better path?  If the offense is successful and you’re not the OC, what’s your next step?  Another OC job??

If a new OC comes in next year and averages 30 ppg, what’s the perception of this years offense.  If a new OC can retain the talent in place having a successful year is not out of the question.  
 

Again, take the names out of it, if the next HC is a position coach from an FCS school I can about imagine the posts on here. 

Danny could choose to retain the OC.  Given that UND was trying to pay Danny more money to stay and remain the OC at UND, I don't think people will view it like that (UND hiring an FCS position coach).  It's not like he was demoted.  The more I think about it, the more I think he plans to come back.  

[forksandspoons]

Anyone have a clue of when the OC will be announced? 

[SkoHawks]

I think what I dislike the most about Danny leaving now is we are sitting here looking for a new OC when I'd rather be looking for a new DC or even HC.  None of the OC's mentioned excite me at all, but if the defense doesn't get fixed it won't matter much. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

33 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

Anyone have a clue of when the OC will be announced? 

hope jake says yes today

[sioux24/7]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

hope jake says yes today

Help me get excited about Jake Landry. I’m not saying he won’t be good but what’s so appealing about him? If he wasn’t a former QB here and a local guy, would we be excited?

Maybe it’s just the best of a bad situation, idk. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

4 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

Help me get excited about Jake Landry. I’m not saying he won’t be good but what’s so appealing about him? If he wasn’t a former QB here and a local guy, would we be excited?

Maybe it’s just the best of a bad situation, idk. 

hes currently an o coordinator with fbs experience......cant have someone learning on the job like the "luke & josh" experiment muss tried

[CMSioux]

The obstacles for naming the OC have been discussed. Tough to get someone from outside with a lame duck coach.only thing we know for sure is that the usual suspects on here will not like whoever gets chosen

 

[UND08]

21 hours ago, wheelsup said:

If you really think Danny will be a good head coach at UND in the future the best thing for him and UND is that he left to go learn in a good program outside of Bubba.  If he had stuck around and Bubba retired one of two things would have happened.

• whomever the AD is would have promoted Danny and everyone would have continued to complain about how inbred UND football is.
• The AD would have conducted a wider search and Danny would have gotten passed over.

While maybe not the best thing for 2024 UND football.. in my opinion clearly the best thing for Danny and potentially UND football long term.  Im still annoyed as I was really looking forward to seeing if the offensive problem in 2023 was Danny or Tommy (by the way.. defense was still 98% of the problem with 2023).

Agree completely with one caveat to the negative for UND:

It's the best thing for UND as long as UND can convince him to come back.  If he lights it up at SDSU he could find himself with offers to become an FBS assistant.  If that happens and his pay goes north of $400k we probably won't be able to get him back (a la Eric Schmidt).

Danny made a great career move imo...I hope he lights it up!  And hopefully we have a chance to bring him back someday...

[SIOUXFAN97]

5 minutes ago, UND08 said:

Agree completely with one caveat to the negative for UND:

It's the best thing for UND as long as UND can convince him to come back.  If he lights it up at SDSU he could find himself with offers to become an FBS assistant.  If that happens and his pay goes north of $400k we probably won't be able to get him back (a la Eric Schmidt).

Danny made a great career move imo...I hope he lights it up!  And hopefully we have a chance to bring him back someday...

u do know that if he "lights it up" in brookings that would hurt und football.?
i hope sdac goes 0-11 next....sorry..not sorry

[homer]

16 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

u do know that if he "lights it up" in brookings that would hurt und football.?
i hope sdac goes 0-11 next....sorry..not sorry

Agreed

[UND08]

24 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

u do know that if he "lights it up" in brookings that would hurt und football.?
i hope sdac goes 0-11 next....sorry..not sorry

Hahaha I don't think UND football needs Danny's help to hurt itself any more than it already has.

He's a UND grad...he's given most of his adult life to the program...we didn't want to do whatever it took to keep him (obviously).  SDSU is a great program that seems to be damn near on a different planet than most of FCS lately.  They probably would "light it up" without him but he's getting a great opportunity to learn first hand how it's done at a first class FCS program.  If we want to get there we need to find a way...and that "way" probably shouldn't involve letting talented coaches leave for roles in the conference without giving everything we can to keep them.  I stand by what I said and hope he lights it up!

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

6 minutes ago, UND08 said:

Hahaha I don't think UND football needs Danny's help to hurt itself any more than it already has.

He's a UND grad...he's given most of his adult life to the program...we didn't want to do whatever it took to keep him (obviously).  SDSU is a great program that seems to be damn near on a different planet than most of FCS lately.  They probably would "light it up" without him but he's getting a great opportunity to learn first hand how it's done at a first class FCS program.  If we want to get there we need to find a way...and that "way" probably shouldn't involve letting talented coaches leave for roles in the conference without giving everything we can to keep them.  I stand by what I said and hope he lights it up!

 

please change ur name to usd08 or dannyfan08 please

[gfhockey]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

hes currently an o coordinator with fbs experience......cant have someone learning on the job like the "luke & josh" experiment muss tried

But in their defense they had a great offense those years

[gundy1124]

1 hour ago, sioux24/7 said:

Help me get excited about Jake Landry. I’m not saying he won’t be good but what’s so appealing about him? If he wasn’t a former QB here and a local guy, would we be excited?

Maybe it’s just the best of a bad situation, idk. 

Sam King.

[nodak651]

Griz landed a QB transfer https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4605998/logan-fife

[The Sicatoka]

58 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

u do know that if he "lights it up" in brookings that would hurt und football.?
i hope sdac goes 0-11 next....sorry..not sorry

I hope the bunnies go 11-1 ... and UND goes 12-0; however, I'm not holding my breath. 

[gundy1124]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

hes currently an o coordinator with fbs experience......cant have someone learning on the job like the "luke & josh" experiment muss tried

Jake Landry cliff notes- in order, highlights in bold

3 year starter at UND, last 2 Season Captain

2 years at UMD, WR Coach

3 years at FBS NIU, 2 as QB Coach, 1 year as LB Coach

2 year OC at Wisc-Lacrosse, record setting seasons

1 year back at NIU, RB Coach (makes me think this was paid position and prior stop was more of a GA??)

3 years at Temple, QB Coach

2 year OC and QB Coach at St. Thomas

[The Sicatoka]

20 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

Sam King.

Would not bet against. 

[UND08]

45 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

please change ur name to usd08 or dannyfan08 please

Hahahaha not sure you saw it on any of your bike rides over Columbia but Danny’s a great guy, was a great player for us, and his offense consistently averaged 30+ ppg under his watch.  He needs to continue to develop for the sake of his career.  I hope he does that…just like I hope all our alums do!

And it would appear he gets to coach Gronowski next year…I’d have taken the job too!

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 minutes ago, UND08 said:

Hahahaha not sure you saw it on any of your bike rides over Columbia but Danny’s a great guy, was a great player for us, and his offense consistently averaged 30+ ppg under his watch.  He needs to continue to develop for the sake of his career.  I hope he does that…just like I hope all our alums do!

And it would appear he gets to coach Gronowski next year…I’d have taken the job too!

never said he wasnt a great guy. he made his choice....next man up

[Kab]

Would be nice to know who they interviewed and who all applied or called bubba 

[The Sicatoka]

1 minute ago, Kab said:

Would be nice to know who they interviewed and who all applied or called bubba 

You have a better chance of getting nuclear codes or winning lottery numbers in advance.