BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, southpaw said: Fortunately, it's over and everyone is healthy now. I already feel much better, going to drive out to the lake, look at the lake ice, gather up some leaves, drive back to GF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said: Shh... we have a "medical expert" posting this morning. Oh wait, that's right @keikla stopped posting in these threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, UND1983 said: Minnesota has 73,966 deaths to go to reach the fear-based prediction that their super-smart Governor laid out for everyone. he was relying on the data available per the science and that number was based on if we did nothing to mitigate the spread. I know that doesn't fit your narrative but at least be fair and acknowledge that. It is really just a math thing. R0 has been estimated at 2 to 2.5 if no mitigation. Really trying to lower that number and we have in MN. It has drastically been reduced. It also isn't over yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Siouxperman8 said: he was relying on the data available per the science and that number was based on if we did nothing to mitigate the spread. I know that doesn't fit your narrative but at least be fair and acknowledge that. It is really just a math thing. R0 has been estimated at 2 to 2.5 if no mitigation. Really trying to lower that number and we have in MN. It has drastically been reduced. It also isn't over yet. Thank you. Why would he even waste his f'n time saying something that isn't going to happen.....other than to promote fear and spread fear porn? Of course actions are going to be taken, medications are going to be developed, and PPE is going to spread to people/workers. Just like every other time in American history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I could say that UND hockey is going to get beat 21-0 in hockey by Bemidji if they don't put in a goaltender to try to slow down the Beaver attack. But they probably will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, southpaw said: Shh... we have a "medical expert" posting this morning. Oh wait, that's right @keikla stopped posting in these threads. Tell your sister we all appreciate her efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Thank you. Why would he even waste his f'n time saying something that isn't going to happen.....other than to promote fear and spread fear porn? Of course actions are going to be taken, medications are going to be developed, and PPE is going to spread to people/workers. Just like every other time in American history. Again - those weren't his numbers. They are based on science from the experts on what could happen if we did nothing. It is a way to lay out your case to explain why you are taking the actions you are taking. I will continue to take my information from epidemiologists and other experts in the field vs. a person on a message board bitching because not enough people have died. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, UND1983 said: I could say that UND hockey is going to get beat 21-0 in hockey by Bemidji if they don't put in a goaltender to try to slow down the Beaver attack. But they probably will. Yes. So we take measures to prevent that. You are making my point in that doing nothing to mitigate the spread would be like playing without a goalie. We are on the same page there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 May 1 should be a big day for most of this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Siouxperman8 said: Yes. So we take measures to prevent that. You are making my point in that doing nothing to mitigate the spread would be like playing without a goalie. We are on the same page there. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said: May 1 should be a big day for most of this country. Would that be two weeks from now? Or two weeks from two weeks from now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsh Hall Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said: Again - those weren't his numbers. They are based on science from the experts on what could happen if we did nothing. It is a way to lay out your case to explain why you are taking the actions you are taking. I will continue to take my information from epidemiologists and other experts in the field vs. a person on a message board bitching because not enough people have died. The whole problem is that the experts largely have no clue. They are taking their best guess, but obviously those best guesses are colored depending on many factors. For example, NY is dramatically below their "best case" projections, and those projections factored in full mitigation. I suspect MN is the same. Let's just hope that the projections continue to be on the high side. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Walsh Hall said: The whole problem is that the experts largely have no clue. They are taking their best guess, but obviously those best guesses are colored depending on many factors. For example, NY is dramatically below their "best case" projections, and those projections factored in full mitigation. I suspect MN is the same. Let's just hope that the projections continue to be on the high side. For sure. I expect we normally prepare for the worst and hope for the best when it comes to health concerns. I am tapping out on this thread again. I try to stay away but it sucks me in every once in a while. Sorry for posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Walsh Hall said: The whole problem is that the experts largely have no clue. They are taking their best guess, but obviously those best guesses are colored depending on many factors. For example, NY is dramatically below their "best case" projections, and those projections factored in full mitigation. I suspect MN is the same. Let's just hope that the projections continue to be on the high side. Real data has never matched the projected numbers from models from day one. So if the number continually come in below "best case" projections, which they have at almost every turn, how long does this lockdown continue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsh Hall Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Real data has never matched the projected numbers from models from day one. So if the number continually come in below "best case" projections, which they have at almost every turn, how long does this lockdown continue? Ideally? At this point, stay the current course until April 27th. April 27 - June 1 exercise social distancing. Limited seating at restaurants, etc.... June 1, 2020 Open for business while continuing to use common sense. The Twins better be playing home games by July 9th so I can get my UND hat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Facts only. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-obamacare-architect-zeke-emanuel-says-u-s-should-prepare-ourselves-for-coronavirus-social-distancing-to-last-18-months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Since everyone likes projections......500x as many people will be unemployed from this crisis than those that died from it. Not that that matters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 interesting view on the ventilators https://www.yahoo.com/news/rethinking-coronavirus-some-doctors-question-how-we-use-ventilators-123733204.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said: interesting view on the ventilators https://www.yahoo.com/news/rethinking-coronavirus-some-doctors-question-how-we-use-ventilators-123733204.html CYDN's drug show patients can be released in as little as two days after getting a ventilator, which would be massive too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Since everyone likes projections......500x as many people will be unemployed from this crisis than those that died from it. Not that that matters. Add me to the list of unemployed as of noon yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Another SURPRISE! In this never ending virus saga. One surprise after another, day in and day out. After this last thread was shut down, more disappointment. And, as many previous threads, payloaded into the first virus locked up thread, then the Mother Load Thread is reopened! Enjoy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Add me to the list of unemployed as of noon yesterday. Wish you well man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Add me to the list of unemployed as of noon yesterday. Sorry to hear that Mafia...good luck in your job search! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 57 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Add me to the list of unemployed as of noon yesterday. Sorry. HR people at meetings are often deadly. Hoping the recovery is quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said: Sorry. HR people at meetings are often deadly. Hoping the recovery is quick. I won’t have a job to go back to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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