Who would UND hire?

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

He’d better be more DeBoer and less Bubba.

Didn’t look it at San Diego State in 2024… looked like San Diego State hired Bubba and not DeBoer

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, UND-FB-FAN said:

Didn’t look it at San Diego State in 2024… looked like San Diego State hired Bubba and not Schmidt 

Was San Diego State a total dumpster fire when he got there?

[homer]

1 minute ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Didn’t look it at San Diego State in 2024… looked like San Diego State hired Bubba and not DeBoer

How much of their football did you follow this year??

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Was San Diego State a total dumpster fire when he got there?

That will be everyone’s argument that endorsed this decision, but that remains to be seen. If UND hires Schmidt, and San Diego State’s defense does much better in 2025, and UND struggles with Schmidt in year one, there will be a lot of early sandbagging …

[UND1983]

5 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Still runs a porous defense from what I saw of 2024 San Diego State … but maybe he just had bad players … and we should excuse his non-playoff success defenses from 2014-2019 at UND. 

Did you lookup the defenses in that time frame?  Not as bad as you want to make it sound while pounding the table for Beau Baldwin 

also those were all in the Big Sky where teams take way more chances and had bigtime offenses from what I recall

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, UND-FB-FAN said:

That will be everyone’s argument that endorsed this decision, but that remains to be seen. If UND hires Schmidt, and San Diego State’s defense does great in 2025, and UND struggles with Schmidt in year one, there will be a lot of early sandbagging …

Well, there are always unknowns when hiring. I still think this is way better than hiring internally.

[UND1983]

1 minute ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

That will be everyone’s argument that endorsed this decision, but that remains to be seen. If UND hires Schmidt, and San Diego State’s defense does much better in 2025, and UND struggles with Schmidt in year one, there will be a lot of early sandbagging …

You are already hedging and he hasn’t even been hired.  wtf is wrong with you?

[SiouxFan100]

If it is Schmidt than I get behind Schmidt 

[Siouxperman8]

7 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

 

Winners win. It would be nice to try hire a former head coach that actually won as a head coach. But yeah, there will always be risk.  And of course coordinators can be hired and be successful, but new found success is rare, especially when there has been years of struggle. That tends to predict what is going to happen … not sure why UND football needs to keep taking the uphill path. 

I see potential advantaged both ways and neither path is certain.  Successful HC is a plus but so is experience at a higher level which I am hoping brings better contacts for finding assistants, recruits and portal players.   

[Dustin]

Just now, Siouxperman8 said:

I see potential advantaged both ways and neither path is certain.  Successful HC is a plus but so is experience at a higher level which I am hoping brings better contacts for finding assistants, recruits and portal players.   

This is the biggest upside to Schmidt. But will any of his FBS contacts want an FCS job??

[UND-FB-FAN]

10 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

You are already hedging and he hasn’t even been hired.  wtf is wrong with you?

Not hedging, will support whoever they hire, just explaining why Schmidt shouldn’t be considered a slam dunk and he’s not really in my top 5. Then again, though, I don’t know who all applied.
 

Schmidt was always a favorite from the start. Remember, Schmidt is an understudy of Bubba, so will there be too many similarities? 

[Sioux27]

6 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

You are already hedging and he hasn’t even been hired.  wtf is wrong with you?

So it's too early to start a fire Schmidt - save season thread?  

[Siouxperman8]

4 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Not hedging, will support whoever they hire, just explaining why Schmidt shouldn’t be considered a slam dunk and he’s not really in my top 5. Then again, though, I don’t know who all applied.
 

Schmidt was always a favorite from the start. Remember, Schmidt is an understudy of Bubba, so there will similarities? 

I don't think your top 5 are bad choices and part of me hopes they pick someone from your top 5 so you have skin in the game.  Maybe I can stop worrying that my expectations are too low and that is what causes us to lose some games. 

[fightingsioux4life]

4 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Not hedging, will support whoever they hire, just explaining why Schmidt shouldn’t be considered a slam dunk and he’s not really in my top 5. Then again, though, I don’t know who all applied.
 

Schmidt was always a favorite from the start. Remember, Schmidt is an understudy of Bubba, so will there will too many similarities? 

I don't think you can necessarily assume Schmidt would be Bubba 2.0. He'll have his own ideas and philosophies as head coach.

[UND-FB-FAN]

9 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:

If it is Schmidt than I get behind Schmidt 

No one here, if they are actually a fan of UND, should be hoping the new coach fails before they even coach their first game or season at UND, but it’s okay to have an opinion on whether they were the best choice or not. 
 

How can you blame UND fans, especially diehards, for being cautious. We all remember the decision to hire Bubba Schweigert over Kalen DeBoer …

[shep]

Didn’t like Schmidt’s D when he was here, but he could blame that on the HC.

Frankly, rather have Fruechte

[UND-FB-FAN]

Just now, fightingsioux4life said:

I don't think you can necessarily assume Schmidt would be Bubba 2.0. He'll have his own ideas and philosophies as head coach.

They didn’t work from 2014-2019, but maybe DeBoer retrained him into a new person, although 2024 did not suggest that.  

[Nodak78]

1 hour ago, homer said:

What type of staff the new coach can assemble and what excitement they can bring to drive NIL are more important to me than any head coaching experience.  Experience with how FBS schools are doing it weighs heavier to me than how Bemidji and Mankato are doing it.  

Amen

[The Sicatoka]

Will a 4-2-5 work in the MVFC?

[UND1983]

In 2016 UND had the #1 defense in the Big Sky by a mile.  You know why?  They had really good players.  Recruit better, period.  

[shep]

Just now, The Sicatoka said:

Will a 4-2-5 work in the MVFC?

 Maybe if you get 310 pound Guys in the 4

[fightingsioux4life]

1 minute ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

They didn’t work from 2014-2019, but maybe DeBoer retrained him into a new person, although 2024 did not suggest that.  

My point is when he was working for Bubba, he had to defer to his decisions even if he didn't agree with them. As the head coach, he will get to implement his own vision and philosophies on everything from recruiting to attitude to game plans and so on.

There were changes from Roger Thomas to Dale Lennon. There will be changes here as well.

[Nodak78]

49 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

One other thought: When Rube Bjorkman stepped down as head hockey coach in 1978, the hockey program had struggled for a decade. Bjorkman was replaced by one of his assistants. We still call him Gino. And he made big changes to the program. Good changes.

Whether it would work out in this case is the big question.

I remember that hire.  I thought the other guy should be picked.  I talked to a hockey player on the team and he said Gino was the guy.  The team believed in him.  I did know that rube was not a good coach.

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Will a 4-2-5 work in the MVFC?

Well, a lot of people want to ditch the 3-4, so............

[SiouxFan100]

Be happy