UND to cut women's hockey

[90siouxfan]

Is the $60 million to restore the program to its former glory with overpriced coach and international recruiting Footprint?  Or is that the number to let some female athletes play the sport ?   

[moser53]

  On 2/25/2018 at 5:05 AM, The Sicatoka said:

It's a $60 million endowment to restore WIH. So, ... What are gold medals going for on eBay these days?

Talk is cheap; takes money to play hockey.

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Goal post has moved. If 60 million was raised 80 would be the new 60.

#room4one

[Cratter]

  On 2/25/2018 at 3:26 AM, SWSiouxMN said:

So Kennedy sent out a tweet today congratulating all of UNDs Olympians.

You can only imagine how well it is going over right now. 

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So you're saying ya saw UNDFootball360s retweet of Gabs.

[SWSiouxMN]

  On 2/25/2018 at 9:48 PM, Cratter said:

So you're saying ya saw UNDFootball360s retweet of Gabs.

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I did. Amongst the other lovely tweets he has gotten in response as well. 

[cberkas]

  On 2/25/2018 at 9:48 PM, Cratter said:

So you're saying ya saw UNDFootball360s retweet of Gabs.

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She's been going on a twitter rant, but facts don't mean anything to her. She did seem to contradict herself too. 

[petey23]

  On 2/25/2018 at 9:57 PM, cberkas said:

She's been going on a twitter rant, but facts don't mean anything to her. She did seem to contradict herself too. 

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She ain't the brightest knife on the tree.

[cberkas]

  On 2/25/2018 at 10:17 PM, petey23 said:

She ain't the brightest knife on the tree.

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[UND1983]

  On 2/25/2018 at 9:57 PM, cberkas said:

She's been going on a twitter rant, but facts don't mean anything to her. She did seem to contradict herself too. 

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But Kevin Vaughn, their former hockey operations guy, tweeted back that she is blasting everyone with 'facts'.  I didn't see many facts in her rants, just pure emotion and entitlement-driven statements.  I did, however, see Gabs called the program "successful" and it had a "bright future".   

[Oxbow6]

  On 2/26/2018 at 3:32 PM, UND1983 said:

But Kevin Vaughn, their former hockey operations guy, tweeted back that she is blasting everyone with 'facts'.  I didn't see many facts in her rants, just pure emotion and entitlement-driven statements.  I did, however, see Gabs called the program "successful" and it had a "bright future".   

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So much so that Britta Curl had zero interest to come to UND

[90siouxfan]

  On 2/26/2018 at 3:35 PM, Oxbow6 said:

So much so that Britta Curl had zero interest to come to UND

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Others are more up to speed on the Curl to UND story than me, but if I remember correctly, Idalski told her she can't play at UND unless she left her ND high school program and took up a higher level before UND.

 

If it is accurate that the LaMoo twins required Idalski to be the coach before they would tranfer from Minn to UND, then I ponder if their coming here brought about the demise of the program?   Does not take a rocket scientist to see Idalski did in the program with his visions of grandeur.  But I slept in a second rate hotel, so maybe I should stick to beer and sausages instead of bread and circuses...

[UND1983]

Idalski compared that gold medal win to the 1980 Miracle On Ice in what it's going to do for women's hockey in not only America, but the world. 

This just in: they were 100% GUARANTEED a silver medal before the tournament started.  They happened to win in a shootout to get the gold. 

 

 

[Shawn-O]

  On 2/26/2018 at 6:28 PM, 90siouxfan said:

Others are more up to speed on the Curl to UND story than me, but if I remember correctly, Idalski told her she can't play at UND unless she left her ND high school program and took up a higher level before UND.

 

If it is accurate that the LaMoo twins required Idalski to be the coach before they would tranfer from Minn to UND, then I ponder if their coming here brought about the demise of the program?   Does not take a rocket scientist to see Idalski did in the program with his visions of grandeur.  But I slept in a second rate hotel, so maybe I should stick to beer and sausages instead of bread and circuses...

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My recollection is that is was more about Rivard being replaced, but I could be wrong.   

[UND1983]

  On 2/26/2018 at 7:56 PM, Shawn-O said:

My recollection is that is was more about Rivard being replaced, but I could be wrong.   

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He was named UND head coach long before the Lammy's came to UND.

[90siouxfan]

  On 2/26/2018 at 7:59 PM, UND1983 said:

He was named UND head coach long before the Lammy's came to UND.

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I believe Shawn-O is stating that Rivard was head coach before lamoos hit campus...   I have to wonder why the bleeding was not slowed, obviously most sports bleed money, but seems like it went from no one noticing to chopping block really fast.  Could replacing Idalski with a mere mortal, cutting recruiting in Scandanvia, etc have kept the program.  Obviously the state's budget issues weighed in heavily, but seems like cuts before cutting the program would have been an option.

[UND1983]

Wasn't Idalski hired as head coach at UND over a  year before they left Shattuck to attend UM?

[cberkas]

  On 2/26/2018 at 8:07 PM, 90siouxfan said:

I believe Shawn-O is stating that Rivard was head coach before lamoos hit campus...   I have to wonder why the bleeding was not slowed, obviously most sports bleed money, but seems like it went from no one noticing to chopping block really fast.  Could replacing Idalski with a mere mortal, cutting recruiting in Scandanvia, etc have kept the program.  Obviously the state's budget issues weighed in heavily, but seems like cuts before cutting the program would have been an option.

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Peter Elander said he kind of knew the program was getting cut when his contract wasn’t going to get renewed. So how did Idalski not know this?

[cberkas]

  On 2/26/2018 at 8:11 PM, UND1983 said:

Wasn't Idalski hired as head coach at UND over a  year before they left Shattuck to attend UM?

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He was hired in 2007.

[UND1983]

  On 2/26/2018 at 8:20 PM, cberkas said:

He was hired in 2007.

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Right, so this narrative that they required Idalski doesn't make a lot of sense.  He was hired a year before they graduated but they still went to UM.   Am I missing a step in there?

[cberkas]

  On 2/26/2018 at 8:22 PM, UND1983 said:

Right, so this narrative that they required Idalski doesn't make a lot of sense.  He was hired a year before they graduated but they still went to UM.   Am I missing a step in there?

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I guess it still could have been/or is true. 

[cberkas]

  On 2/26/2018 at 3:32 PM, UND1983 said:

But Kevin Vaughn, their former hockey operations guy, tweeted back that she is blasting everyone with 'facts'.  I didn't see many facts in her rants, just pure emotion and entitlement-driven statements.  I did, however, see Gabs called the program "successful" and it had a "bright future".   

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Kevin Vaughan@kevo1616

 

For all you folks on Sioux Sports that are done tearing apart women’s hockey and ripping on people for not wanting to lose jobs or lose the team they played on feel free to DM me and actually have a civil conversation I’ll be patiently waiting

[petey23]

  On 2/26/2018 at 6:28 PM, 90siouxfan said:

Others are more up to speed on the Curl to UND story than me, but if I remember correctly, Idalski told her she can't play at UND unless she left her ND high school program and took up a higher level before UND.

 

If it is accurate that the LaMoo twins required Idalski to be the coach before they would tranfer from Minn to UND, then I ponder if their coming here brought about the demise of the program?   Does not take a rocket scientist to see Idalski did in the program with his visions of grandeur.  But I slept in a second rate hotel, so maybe I should stick to beer and sausages instead of bread and circuses...

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I am not sure the Twins were only coming if Idalski was the coach, but they were not coming with Rivard here.

[petey23]

  On 2/26/2018 at 8:07 PM, 90siouxfan said:

I believe Shawn-O is stating that Rivard was head coach before lamoos hit campus...   I have to wonder why the bleeding was not slowed, obviously most sports bleed money, but seems like it went from no one noticing to chopping block really fast.  Could replacing Idalski with a mere mortal, cutting recruiting in Scandanvia, etc have kept the program.  Obviously the state's budget issues weighed in heavily, but seems like cuts before cutting the program would have been an option.

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Title 9 worked against them. 

[Oxbow6]

  On 2/26/2018 at 7:33 PM, UND1983 said:

Idalski compared that gold medal win to the 1980 Miracle On Ice in what it's going to do for women's hockey in not only America, but the world. 

This just in: they were 100% GUARANTEED a silver medal before the tournament started.  They happened to win in a shootout to get the gold. 

 

 

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#growingthesport

[MafiaMan]

  On 2/26/2018 at 8:32 PM, cberkas said:

Kevin Vaughan@kevo1616

 

For all you folks on Sioux Sports that are done tearing apart women’s hockey and ripping on people for not wanting to lose jobs or lose the team they played on feel free to DM me and actually have a civil conversation I’ll be patiently waiting

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Kevin, feel free to create a user name and password here and PM me directly.  Nobody WANTED women's hockey to go away, but that $2 million-a-year albatross around UND's neck was hard to ignore.

Bemidji State vs UMD yesterday in women's WCHA playoffs...FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE ATTENDEES!  News flash:  North Dakota isn't the only school that's going to have trouble keeping women's hockey afloat.  Call it a hunch.    

[SIOUXFAN97]

  On 2/26/2018 at 9:38 PM, MafiaMan said:

Kevin, feel free to create a user name and password here and PM me directly.  Nobody WANTED women's hockey to go away, but that $2 million-a-year albatross around UND's neck was hard to ignore.

Bemidji State vs UMD yesterday in women's WCHA playoffs...FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE ATTENDEES!  News flash:  North Dakota isn't the only school that's going to have trouble keeping women's hockey afloat.  Call it a hunch.    

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speak for yourself..no blanket statements please