Popular Post geaux_sioux Posted January 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2017 30 minutes ago, siouxweet said: Beyond Jost, Boeser and Gersich where is the high end blue chip talent? This is a failure in recruiting. The young team excuse doesn't fly. Look at BU. BU had the best tecruiting class basically of all time. You can't use them as an example. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 29 minutes ago, siouxweet said: Beyond Jost, Boeser and Gersich where is the high end blue chip talent? This is a failure in recruiting. The young team excuse doesn't fly. Look at BU. Wilkie, Pogo and Gardner are all drafted...it's not an issue of recruiting, those 3 in particular are just not playing to their potential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Remember we didn't have Boeser originally either...stealing him was a recruiting coup! Final piece of an NCAA title last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: BU had the best tecruiting class basically of all time. You can't use them as an example. And while they are stockpiling first round draft picks UND is getting Hoff and Gornall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 This roster is full of role players not table setters. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, siouxweet said: And while they are stockpiling first round draft picks UND is getting Hoff and Gornall. We have the same amount of 1st rounders as we did last yr... if you really think that's the only way to determine successful teams. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 44 minutes ago, siouxweet said: And while they are stockpiling first round draft picks UND is getting Hoff and Gornall. What's wrong with either of those players? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 38 minutes ago, siouxweet said: This roster is full of role players not table setters. 48 minutes ago, siouxweet said: And while they are stockpiling first round draft picks UND is getting Hoff and Gornall. Get up off the floor and quit crying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: What's wrong with either of those players? Nothing, but they are fourth liners and that seems that is what the roster is full of. Schlossman has even stated this isn't a highly skilled team. It is almost as if the coaching staff was blind sided with all the losses from last year's team and we're not prepared for replacing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, burd said: Get up off the floor and quit crying. You must have been ecstatic with this weekends results and last weekend's as well then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I don't fault the forwards as much as the D. Our backenders are either terrible offensively or terrible defensively or both. exception being Poolman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyvikes Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 14 minutes ago, siouxweet said: You must have been ecstatic with this weekends results and last weekend's as well then. What did you expect from the #2 team in the nation? Doesn't this weekend make both teams 4-4 for the last 8 games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, siouxweet said: Nothing, but they are fourth liners and that seems that is what the roster is full of. Schlossman has even stated this isn't a highly skilled team. It is almost as if the coaching staff was blind sided with all the losses from last year's team and we're not prepared for replacing them. I think it's time to step back from the ledge. Last years team was all time great, this years team is good but has flaws. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 hours ago, siouxweet said: Beyond Jost, Boeser and Gersich where is the high end blue chip talent? This is a failure in recruiting. The young team excuse doesn't fly. Look at BU. I couldn't agree more - take away those three and the last two classes aren't competitive. No scoring, a goalie who is in Siberia, and defensemen who cough up goals repeatedly. While the championship accelerated the process a bit with the departures, I really don't see a core of talent who will improve with time. We have lots of dead weight and with our recruiting advantages (NHL Stars, top program, top facility) there is no way we should be in this boat. Other schools have reloaded quickly. If we don't have one of the best classes in history coming in, if we have early departures we will be in big trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 It isn't #1 picks driving UMD right now, it's upperclassmen who have developed and bought into the system and their roles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: It isn't #1 picks driving UMD right now, it's upperclassmen who have developed and bought into the system and their roles. I don't disagree and am not necessarily arguing for more #1 picks (although it would be nice). My point is that other than the three stars we have very little talent to build into a Duluth like team. Many are below average. After the big 3 we have a serious lack of scoring - punctuated by Wilkie and if you saw our defense this week you know what I mean there too. Not only that, we have serious issues clearing the slot and around the goal, clearing the zone, on the power play, and with concentration and not making stupid plays. We don't seem to be able to play Sioux hockey for a whold game and sometimes for a whole period. Maybe Gornal, Wilkie, and Wolanin will develop a lot, but I am seriously worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 9 hours ago, MafiaMan said: I don't understand all the complaining - I guess the fans who insisted that just ONE national title would make them OK with a few down years were apparently fibbing. UMD is a veteran team, they have seven seniors on their team. Last time I checked, UND is a team that has 19 underclassmen. UND also lost four Juniors in the offseason. Imagine if Stecher, LJ, Schmaltz and LaDue had returned? That's a lot of experience that left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Goon said: UMD is a veteran team, they have seven seniors on their team. Last time I checked, UND is a team that has 19 underclassmen. UND also lost four Juniors in the offseason. Imagine if Stecher, LJ, Schmaltz and LaDue had returned? That's a lot of experience that left. Your honest assessment - other than the big 3, how much talent do you see in those 19 underclassmen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprig Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Goon said: UMD is a veteran team, they have seven seniors on their team. Last time I checked, UND is a team that has 19 underclassmen. UND also lost four Juniors in the offseason. Imagine if Stecher, LJ, Schmaltz and LaDue had returned? That's a lot of experience that left. And most of those veterans are 23-24 years old, having played juniors for a couple years after high school. It's the way a team is built without high draft picks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Just now, Irish said: Your honest assessment - other than the big 3, how much talent do you see in that 19 freshmen. I see a lot of talent. 8 freshmen and 11 Sophomores. Yon is going to be a great offensive player I think he has good hands and a decent shot. Dixon Bowen is great and upcoming forward with incredible speed, motor never stops. Hoff has grit and offensive talent. I like his mean streak. I like Smith's grit and he never quits. He's a diamond in the rough. All three Freshmen on the backend have made great strides. I really like Casey Johnson. I like the freshmen line of Yon, Hoff and Bowen. They're great forecheckers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Forward Grades based on performance vs expectations: Wilkie F Simo F Olsen F Gardner D Hoff D JJ D Pogo C- Gornall C Smith C Boeser B- Yon B Bowen B Jost A Gersich A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 hours ago, siouxweet said: Beyond Jost, Boeser and Gersich where is the high end blue chip talent? This is a failure in recruiting. The young team excuse doesn't fly. Look at BU. Way to cherry-pick maybe the best recruiting class ever. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: Forward Grades based on performance vs expectations: Wilkie F Simo F Olsen F Gardner D Hoff D JJ D Pogo C- Gornall C Smith C Boeser B- Yon B Bowen B Jost A Gersich A Half below C. Now do the defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Just now, Irish said: Half below C. Now do the defense. And 2 C's are non-scholarship players who get limited ice and 2 B's are freshmen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Ausmus F Wolanin D Peskie D Shaw C- poolman C- Johnson C- Poolman B- Cam C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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