hoops44 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 42 minutes ago, UND-1 said: They were picked 8th and finished 5th. That isn't a reason to extend a coach who has been there 10 years. If there is another reason , maybe. But not that. . Montana 220 (14) 2. Weber State 194 (2) 3. Eastern Washington 183 (1) 4. Northern Arizona 133 (1) 4. Sacramento State 133 (1) 6. Northern Colorado 117 7. Idaho 109 7. Portland State 109 9. Southern Utah 96 10. North Dakota 70 11. Montana State 64 12. Idaho State 24 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n Hawks Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, hoops44 said: . Montana 220 (14) 2. Weber State 194 (2) 3. Eastern Washington 183 (1) 4. Northern Arizona 133 (1) 4. Sacramento State 133 (1) 6. Northern Colorado 117 7. Idaho 109 7. Portland State 109 9. Southern Utah 96 10. North Dakota 70 11. Montana State 64 12. Idaho State 24 The preseason polls are pretty much based off of last years results, it would have been hard to do any worse than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 How about the Coaches poll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n Hawks Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, UND-1 said: How about the Coaches poll? And UND isn't highly regarded in the big sky for men's basketball yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 2 hours ago, UND-1 said: They were picked 8th and finished 5th. That isn't a reason to extend a coach who has been there 10 years. If there is another reason , maybe. But not that. So that is a good reason to hijack every basketball thread into a "Fire Jones" thread? If I was on this team and all some fans wanted to talk about was firing my coach I wouldn't think much of those fans. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 UND is on a 4-game losing streak away from the Betty. If we don't want to talk about how incapable Brian Jones is, should we talk about how this team can't win on the road? The FACT is UND MBB is on a 4-game road losing streak; not something you want to take into a conference tournament, regardless if it's on a neutral floor or not. Reno will still be more foreign than playing in the Betty in front of the home crowd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 8 hours ago, UND92,96 said: I'm just speculating, but I imagine Faison really, really wants to avoid having to buy Jones out, as even though the funds would be privately raised, it would still "look bad" in this climate of budget cuts. Rather, I believe Faison will be honest with Jones and tell him he's going to be brought back for next season, but there will not be another extension without meeting some pretty lofty goals, e.g. 20 wins, top-2 finish in the Big Sky during the regular season AND an appearance in the conference championship game. This is about as accurate and level-headed of a take on the situation I've seen in a while. People can argue it all they want but the reality is, there is more to a decision than looking only at what happens on the court (which I don't think anyone would argue has had more disappointments than it should). It would be a tough call letting a coach go into a lame duck year but unless there is some sort of trade-off to give the appearance of a one year extension, this seems about right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, CMSioux said: So that is a good reason to hijack every basketball thread into a "Fire Jones" thread? If I was on this team and all some fans wanted to talk about was firing my coach I wouldn't think much of those fans. There is a fire Jones thread but people get sh!t on if they post there. Therefore you will get this kind of talk in most of the game threads, especially if UND loses to SUU in Reno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 35 minutes ago, jdub27 said: It would be a tough call letting a coach go into a lame duck year. I've always thought it might light a fire under a coach knowing they have a good season they'd make more money and/or get another contract. Sometimes a back up against the wall produces good results. With the players returning and the potential seen from this team, Jones could embrace the challenge. Heck they have a pretty easy path to the Semis, he could help his negotiations for next year by what he does this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 36 minutes ago, Cratter said: I've always thought it might light a fire under a coach knowing they have a good season they'd make more money and/or get another contract. Very possible but the biggest reason tends to be for recruiting purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPritch Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 19 hours ago, darell1976 said: Didn't SUU go winless one year until we played them and they beat us. Jones needs this tourney to save his job. Yup. Believe they were like 1-15 or something like that in the BSC 2 or 3 seasons ago and we lost to 'em I think with a half decent team. Another fine coaching job by Jones that season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 14 hours ago, UND-1 said: They were picked 8th and finished 5th. That isn't a reason to extend a coach who has been there 10 years. If there is another reason , maybe. But not that. . Montana 220 (14) 2. Weber State 194 (2) 3. Eastern Washington 183 (1) 4. Northern Arizona 133 (1) 4. Sacramento State 133 (1) 6. Northern Colorado 117 7. Idaho 109 7. Portland State 109 9. Southern Utah 96 10. North Dakota 70 11. Montana State 64 12. Idaho State 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, hoops44 said: . Montana 220 (14) 2. Weber State 194 (2) 3. Eastern Washington 183 (1) 4. Northern Arizona 133 (1) 4. Sacramento State 133 (1) 6. Northern Colorado 117 7. Idaho 109 7. Portland State 109 9. Southern Utah 96 10. North Dakota 70 11. Montana State 64 12. Idaho State 24 You posted that Media poll once already, we got it. How about the Coaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 always a handful of uneducated folks unable to understand English and therefore interject their fire jones narrative into every thread that has zilch to do with UND athletic administrative decision making 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SWSiouxMN Posted March 7, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2016 Can this shift back to the discussion of the Big Sky Tourney as a whole. We have a tread for the coach... use that 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 20 hours ago, UND92,96 said: I'm just speculating, but I imagine Faison really, really wants to avoid having to buy Jones out, as even though the funds would be privately raised, it would still "look bad" in this climate of budget cuts. Rather, I believe Faison will be honest with Jones and tell him he's going to be brought back for next season, but there will not be another extension without meeting some pretty lofty goals, e.g. 20 wins, top-2 finish in the Big Sky during the regular season AND an appearance in the conference championship game. All of this is plausible and I get this angle. However, he is essentially firing him by doing that. Nobody works into their final season on their contracts any more. That is very telling and a huge PR problem for the coach on the recruiting trail etc. Huge problem. Any coach worth his salt that has any pride in themselves would go elsewhere and get a different job if presented with this scenario by their AD. The proverbial writing is on the wall in this situation. But he won't/wouldn't because this is the best he can do in my estimation. Just a bad situation all-around. I believe there is more behind the scenes fallout than people might think from alums, fans, boosters and more. 10 years is an awfully large sample size, but we will see. Faison needs to show vision and leadership on this moving forward. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 GAME 2 NO. 5 NORTH DAKOTA vs NO. 12 SOUTHERN UTAH, 3:35 p.m. MST Betting line: Not available yet (will update) KenPom gives North Dakota an 82 percent chance to win This Children is an example of an on subject thread post.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I think UND should easily win their first game, They should comfortably win their second game. Anything less is unacceptable. Weber will be a tough game but we are playing with house money at that point. I will be disappointed if we lose but if we at least show up for a big game but lose, I will look forward with excitement to next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 A couple of things you can bank on if UND is to go deep into these playoffs - at least three of these will happen: Berstine will not get into foul trouble early Baldwin and McDermott will be lighting it up with 3 pointers Candall will be slashing and burning them. Hooker will be Hooker Avants will continue to play much bigger than his height Seales will rediscover his touch A couple of things you can bank on if UND has an early exit - at least three of these will happen: Drick has more fouls than points in the first 10 minutes Baldwin and McDermott can't find it from 3 point land Crandall tosses a few passes into the stands Hooker will be Hooker Avants gets into foul trouble Seales is off And no matter which way it goes you can bank on it that Shanks will have two fouls called on him within the first 10 minutes and at least one of them will be a head scratcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Just now, CMSioux said: A couple of things you can bank on if UND is to go deep into these playoffs: Berstine will not get into foul trouble early Baldwin and McDermott will be lighting it up with 3 pointers Candall will be slashing and burning them. Hooker will be Hooker Avants will continue to play much bigger than his height Seales will rediscover his touch A couple of things you can bank on if UND has an early exit: Drick has more fouls than points in the first 10 minutes Baldwin and McDermott can't find it from 3 point land Crandall tosses a few passes into the stands Hooker will be Hooker Avants gets into foul trouble Seales is off And no matter which way it goes you can bank on it that Shanks will have two fouls called on him within the first 10 minutes and at least one of them will be a head scratcher. Pretty solid synopsis. Will add Crandall +5 or more turnovers and 0 points from the field. He has seemed to really struggle on the road. The point about Baldwin and McDermott is spot on. When they are off, they are WAY off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I owe it all to Big Sky TV :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 11 minutes ago, CMSioux said: A couple of things you can bank on if UND is to go deep into these playoffs - at least three of these will happen: Berstine will not get into foul trouble early Baldwin and McDermott will be lighting it up with 3 pointers Candall will be slashing and burning them. Hooker will be Hooker Avants will continue to play much bigger than his height Seales will rediscover his touch A couple of things you can bank on if UND has an early exit - at least three of these will happen: Drick has more fouls than points in the first 10 minutes Baldwin and McDermott can't find it from 3 point land Crandall tosses a few passes into the stands Hooker will be Hooker Avants gets into foul trouble Seales is off And no matter which way it goes you can bank on it that Shanks will have two fouls called on him within the first 10 minutes and at least one of them will be a head scratcher. Won't disagree with any of this. I'll add one more UND will go far if they rebound well (12-1 when they win the battle of the boards) UND will be bounced early if they don't (3-13 when they don't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 Here are the awards: 2015-16 Big Sky Conference Men's Basketball All-Conference Team FIRST TEAM Player Year Pos. School (Hometown) *Joel Bolomboy (MVP) Sr, F Weber State, (Fort Worth, Texas) *Ethan Telfair Jr. G Idaho State (Coney Island, N.Y.) #Venky Jois Sr. F Eastern Washington (Boronia, Australia) #Martin Breunig Sr. F Montana, (Leverkusen, Germany) Quinton Hooker Jr. G North Dakota (Brooklyn Park, Minn.) Jeremy Senglin Jr. G Weber State (Arlington, Texas) *Unanimous Selection #Two-time First Team Selection SECOND TEAM Player Year Pos. School (Hometown) Cameron Forte Gr.-Sr. F Portland State (Tempe. Ariz.) Victor Sanders So. G Idaho (Portland, Ore.) Austin McBroom Gr.-Sr. G Eastern Washington (Los Angeles, Calif) Marcus Colber Sr. G Montana State (Post Falls, Idaho) Tyler Hall Fr. G Montana State (Rock Island, Ill,) HONORABLE MENTION Player Year Pos. School (Hometown) Anthony Johson Jr. G. Northern Colorado (Indianapolis, Ind.) Geno Luzcando So. G Idaho State (Estacion Central, Chile) Walter Wright Jr. G Montana, (Waterbury, Conn.) Justin Strings So. F Sacramento State (Carson, Calif.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Bernstine was HM worthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Surprised Sanders made second team missing almost 40% of conference games. Yanku from NAU has a case for being snubbed. I don't think Drick did do enough to stand out (10.9 / 8.7), especially at the end of conference play. Bliznyuk from EWU (12.4 / 7.8 / 3.4) and Kaluna for NAU (12.9 / 7.1) had lines that were no pretty equivalent to Drick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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