Siouxphan27 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 1 minute ago, UNDvince97-01 said: Another great "set" by Jones out of a timeout with 10.7 to play. I can't remember the last time UND ran a play other than Crandall or Hooker go one on five and throw up a prayer at the end of a game or half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: agreed. he seemed a step slower tonight too, I don't know if possibly his foot is bothering him worse than usual or what. he couldn't get separation when attempting to drive most of the night. My point was he is 0-3 now on potential game winning shots. All were drives deep into Lane that didn't have a chance in hell. Maybe you knew that, if so sorry. What was wrong with giving it to Drick, who they absolutely could not guard at end? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 1 minute ago, UND1983 said: My point was he is 0-3 now on potential game winning shots. All were drives deep into Lane that didn't have a chance in hell. What was wrong with giving it to Drick, who they absolutely could not guard at end? right. Drick had no problem getting good looks. keep running the motion offense and get it to him would've been a good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_FF Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: I can't remember the last time UND ran a play other than Crandall or Hooker go one on five and throw up a prayer at the end of a game or half. Sorry, thats on Hooker. A play isn't absolutely set for Hooker to shoot no matter what. Its on him to dish when he draws multiple defenders. He tries to do too much at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Shanks misses a dunk geno hotdogs and does a goaltend to take a basket away lazy passes this game was given away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Missed opportunities... now the standings are a mess time to bounce back at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, Sioux_FF said: Sorry, thats on Hooker. A play isn't absolutely set for Hooker to shoot no matter what. Its on him to dish when he draws multiple defenders. He tries to do too much at times. the play is stand around, wait until we almost run out of time, and then drive and shoot, or drive and dish. I would prefer to at least one time keep running the motion offense instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I watched it again. They faked the screen and roll, then vacated the middle to allow Hooker to drive and score. 100% setup for him to drive and win the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 It takes jones several years to realize. A play won't work maybe toward the end of hookers career he will figure it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niouxsiouxfan Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Another close loss that is on Jones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Would have been huge to get that one. I do think the long trips wore them down. Ridiculous to have Flagstaff/Cedar City and Greeley in back to back weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 11 minutes ago, UND1983 said: I watched it again. They faked the screen and roll, then vacated the middle to allow Hooker to drive and score. 100% setup for him to drive and win the game. exactly, it just doesn't work. and as you or someone else mentioned, you don't get those bail out type body contact calls at the end of a game. the guys seemed tired at the end. the bench was shortened a little in the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Just saw the final shot on the sports. What the actual hell? - This is what we come up with after a time out. As someone who grew up watching Dave Gunther, Jones drives me absolutely nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I get wanting your best player to take the last shot but if Hooker is going to take that, it needs to be from the elbow where he doesn't miss. Still think Drick was the best option tonight, they had no answer for him short of putting him on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niouxsiouxfan Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 12 minutes ago, Kab said: Shanks misses a dunk geno hotdogs and does a goaltend to take a basket away lazy passes this game was given away Watched the game with some basketball people, and they brought something up I didn't see. Shanks plays like the game is too fast at times. Whether it's late movement on pick and roll, or not ready to catch a pass. He has other problems too that are frustrating. However, he has his good moments too. Plus, he is a seven footer. The coaching staff has to figure a way to use his strengths to help the team, and his teammates need to keep him focused and positive. Geno's put back dunk is 50/50 call. (I won't rip these refs) I've seen that same play not waived off many times. That is a rule that needs to be addressed sometime. Turnover's always come back to get you. This game was one UND should have won. Drick had mismatch regularly and Jones didn't force the play to go to him more often. Especially on the last play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niouxsiouxfan Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Irish said: Just saw the final shot on the sports. What the actual hell? - This is what we come up with after a time out. As someone who grew up watching Dave Gunther, Jones drives me absolutely nuts. 3 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: exactly, it just doesn't work. and as you or someone else mentioned, you don't get those bail out type body contact calls at the end of a game. the guys seemed tired at the end. the bench was shortened a little in the second half. This is one thing that is so frustrating with Jones coaching. His play calls after TO's is mind boggling. I will say, it was nice to see them go 2-for-1 finally. But, yeah, not going to get the foul call on the final play of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, niouxsiouxfan said: Watched the game with some basketball people, and they brought something up I didn't see. Shanks plays like the game is too fast at times. Whether it's late movement on pick and roll, or not ready to catch a pass. He has other problems too that are frustrating. However, he has his good moments too. Plus, he is a seven footer. The coaching staff has to figure a way to use his strengths to help the team, and his teammates need to keep him focused and positive. Geno's put back dunk is 50/50 call. (I won't rip these refs) I've seen that same play not waived off many times. That is a rule that needs to be addressed sometime. Turnover's always come back to get you. This game was one UND should have won. Drick had mismatch regularly and Jones didn't force the play to go to him more often. Especially on the last play. I hate to keep ripping on him, but the flow of the offense is ten times better when Shanks is on the bench. things grind to a halt when he's clogging up the middle. he can be a valuable situational guy off the bench, but to expect major minutes from him just doesn't seem wise at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 31 minutes ago, Kab said: Shanks misses a dunk geno hotdogs and does a goaltend to take a basket away lazy passes this game was given away UNC also tried to give it away missing a lot more free throws than UND. It goes both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hky Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Same time out, same play, same results, same sidelines antics by Jones. Three times now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 15 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: I hate to keep ripping on him, but the flow of the offense is ten times better when Shanks is on the bench. things grind to a halt when he's clogging up the middle. he can be a valuable situational guy off the bench, but to expect major minutes from him just doesn't seem wise at this point. Pick and roll game exposes his weakness. Not a great pick and roll big. I doubt he would have come here if he knew he'd be setting so many ball screens. with that said, up by 4 at half with him playing heavy minutes. Decent lead when they took him out. Didn't play the rest of the half. Lost by 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 1 hour ago, hoops44 said: hooker forcing up last second shots on the road ...not good ,not going to get call Yes. The strategy and close-game leadership continues to be, shall we say, questionable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Cratter said: Jones with another bench tirade and fly by handshake. 1 hour ago, UNDvince97-01 said: Another great "set" by Jones out of a timeout with 10.7 to play. Well, you have to at least hand it to Jones in that he's consistent. With that, the guy is not a good enough coach for UND. Time to take the steps required to have a competent men's basketball program that folks can rally around and follow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 52 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Would have been huge to get that one. I do think the long trips wore them down. Ridiculous to have Flagstaff/Cedar City and Greeley in back to back weeks. Yes, but they only played one game this week. Not an excuse in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Jones make adjustments that were needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niouxsiouxfan Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 10 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said: I hate to keep ripping on him, but the flow of the offense is ten times better when Shanks is on the bench. things grind to a halt when he's clogging up the middle. he can be a valuable situational guy off the bench, but to expect major minutes from him just doesn't seem wise at this point. Agree completely. He should be coming off the bench. He can be useful. I really like the passion he plays with, needs to get that bit under control. But there is time in the game, when UND is going thru subs to rest Geno and Q, that he could be used. 10 hours ago, ArtVandalay said: Pick and roll game exposes his weakness. Not a great pick and roll big. I doubt he would have come here if he knew he'd be setting so many ball screens. with that said, up by 4 at half with him playing heavy minutes. Decent lead when they took him out. Didn't play the rest of the half. Lost by 1. They single him down low in the post quite often. I've seen him be successful in both areas, but have seen him fail in both instances as well. There were times he played well and should have went back to him, he helped create even more of a mismatch for Bernstine. These guys deserved this win, and the people that matter better know it. Then they need to do something about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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