bison73 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 """"We wanted to prove that we were the best defense out there and we sure as heck did that,” NDSU coach Chris Klieman said"""""So whats the matter with that quote?Found the picture on twitter of the ZA injury:Also, went to Bisonville to see if they had any comments yet. They are laughing it off. Unreal. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Yep, you know exactly what happened and the intent.And the idiot is................still you!Thanks for playing. Quote
2011BisonAlumni Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Any of our LBs would start. Reyes probably would as well. Adler could possibly at TE. Other than that you're right.You might be right about the outside linebackers. Ironically though , I think your best defensive player, Will, would be riding the pine. As good as he is, he is no Nick DeLuca. That dude will be playing on Sundays. Quote
bison73 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?35868-GDT-NDSU-vs-UND/page29 No_Skill Senior MemberGets their mail at the West Parking Lot Join DateSep 2006LocationBismarckPosts3,156 Re: GDT: NDSU vs. UND"""Hey Darell, I loled because I knew your kind would accuse malicious intent, not that the kid broke his leg. """ Quote
darell1976 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 """Hey Darell, I loled because I knew your kind would accuse malicious intent, not that the kid broke his leg. """I just posted the link as it was asked for, I didn't question the motive of the LOL in the post. Don't shoot the messenger. Quote
bison73 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Deflect all you want about someone wearing a hat but it doesn't change anything about that play. Lowering a shoulder into the back of a players legs is dangerous and against the rules for that reason. Anybody that is being honest knows that is a dirty play at worst and a very poor decision at best. It was a spur of the moment decision but a very bad one. There is no place for that in a football game. To say otherwise is disingenuous or a complete lack of understanding of sportsmanship and football in general.Yes it was a very bad in game decision. Just like blocking in the back etc which we had a few of during this game that caused some pretty good returns to be called back. Its a lack of discipline and they need focus on the fact that if you cant get your head in front of the defender you HAVE to let it go. I hope the coaches get on top of this.I dont know who the player is but it might be because the player hasnt gotten enough game time reps. That fact also leads to undisciplined play. I am not making excuses. He made a bad decision. But I dont think his intent was to hurt the player. Quote
bison73 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 I don't think they were laughing about the kid getting hurt, but rather that you guys somehow felt the Bison player intentionally hurt him out of some irrational hatred of all things UND. I haven't personally rewatched the play (ESPN3 is freezing up on me...) so I can't say if it was a legal hit or not. For the sake of avoiding an argument I'll take your guys word and say it wasn't and there should have been a penalty, but I'm not buying for a second that this was how they were coached to do it or that it was done to intentionally injure him. EDIT: Man do I hate the quote function on this board.... really bizarre things happen when you hit "quote" and then back out and hit quote again... it keeps stacking the quotes. The above should have been in response to Darrel's post responding to mine.Thats been happening to me also. Quote
FSSD Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 You might be right about the outside linebackers. Ironically though , I think your best defensive player, Will, would be riding the pine. As good as he is, he is no Nick DeLuca. That dude will be playing on Sundays.Still looking for your reply to the question - clean or dirty? Quote
darell1976 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Still looking for your reply to the question - clean or dirty?it's past his bedtime, it's a school night. Fargo South starts early. Quote
2011BisonAlumni Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Still looking for your reply to the question - clean or dirty?He hit him on the hips first . Look at the replay. There was not a penalty called. Not dirty. 1 Quote
2011BisonAlumni Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) it's past his bedtime, it's a school night. Fargo South starts early.You popping in the 2001 D2 championship game into the VHS player tonight , or were you just planning to start the 2015 hypothetical playoff topic on SS instead? Edited September 21, 2015 by 2011BisonAlumni Quote
bison73 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Still looking for your reply to the question - clean or dirty?Dirty means it was his intention to cause harm. I certainly wouldnt say it was a clean hit. If you want to quantify it I would say it was a bad hit. Quote
shep Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 From the time a pass play is called in the huddle till he throws the ball, Studsrud locks in on the receiver. I can see it, the fans can see it and most importantly the dbacks on the opposition can see it.The run game will never get going if D's can put 7-8 guys in the box as they know the QB can't go really long (and the lack of speed at WR doesn't help) so this O is in big time trouble. Quote
darell1976 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 You popping in the 2001 D2 championship game into the VHS player tonight , or were you just planning to start the 2015 hypothetical playoff topic on SS instead?shhh get back to bed. Quote
bison73 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 He hit him on the hips first . Look at the replay. There was not a penalty called. Not dirty.Do you have a link for the replay? Quote
FSSD Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Dirty means it was his intention to cause harm. I certainly wouldnt say it was a clean hit. If you want to quantify it I would say it was a bad hit. So, if a SDSU player chopped a NDSU player from behind like that would coach Bohl roll out the coaches film and talked about it on the coaches show? Quote
2011BisonAlumni Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) shhh get back to bed.Good thing we don't have to speculate about how bad of a blowout this game would be on paper. I thought it would be a blowout , but not this bad. I was glad it was played to satisfy you guys. See you in 2019. Edited September 21, 2015 by 2011BisonAlumni Quote
choyt3 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Darell, that link is effing up the layout here for me. If someone wants to go to bisonville and read their reaction, they can find it. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 You might be right about the outside linebackers. Ironically though , I think your best defensive player, Will, would be riding the pine. As good as he is, he is no Nick DeLuca. That dude will be playing on Sundays.right along side crockett? Quote
FSSD Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) He hit him on the hips first . Look at the replay. There was not a penalty called. Not dirty.Yep, you are right no penalty called... nothing to see here. What was I thinking? Edited September 21, 2015 by FSSD Quote
NewUNDAlum Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) As a football referee, the hit on Arnell was as dirty of a football play as you can have. I'm not saying he did it with malice but that is irrelevant. Its a dirty play. Its an illegal play. Unfortunately, its going to have a serious impact on a promising players ability to continue playing this game. Again, I'm not saying the NDSU guy did what he did on purpose. I imagine what happened was not his intent and that he was more than likely aiming at the hip. Unfortunately, that was not the end result. Edited September 21, 2015 by NewUNDAlum 2 Quote
2011BisonAlumni Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) right along side crockett?When was I ever quoted saying that about Crockett?Oh and by the way, Eddie Lacy got hurt tonight. Crockett will be playing next Sunday if Lacy can't go. Edited September 21, 2015 by 2011BisonAlumni Quote
BigGame Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 So whats the matter with that quote? Nothing, not sure why it got some panties in a bunch. Granted I don't think shutting down UND's offense makes you good or great but NDSU certainly was the far better team. Quote
bison73 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 So, if a SDSU player chopped a NDSU player from behind like that would coach Bohl roll out the coaches film and talked about it on the coaches show?Dont know. Quote
BigGame Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 He hit him on the hips first . Look at the replay. There was not a penalty called. Not dirty.By rule the block was a penalty. Pretty much any neutral party would call the hit dirty but that certainly doesn't mean he intended to injure. 1 Quote
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