SWSiouxMN Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Its conference time baby! MSU with a new coach, still trying to get their feet on the ground. They are solid rebounders, but struggle on stopping the ball and forcing turnovers. 3-1 all time record since joining the sky, including 2-0 in Bozeman. UND hasn't won a conference opener yet, I think that changed. UND 75 MSU 68 Other games: UNC @ MONT ISU @ IDAHO WEB @ EWU SUU @ PSU NAU @ SAC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 This a must win. Can't lose to the Cats wither time we play them. Need to win these very winnable games. If nothing else to give this team some confidense. Been a while since they won a game!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Do the games matter yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Games at 2pm. Perfect for spending the afternoon on the couch and watching the game courtesy of Big Sky TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Do the games matter yet? Yes. They now officially matter and count towards our record. The two month exhibition season is over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Do the games matter yet? Actually I thought it was only the conference tournament games that matter. I get so confused as to which games count and which ones don't........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Actually I thought it was only the conference tournament games that matter. I get so confused as to which games count and which ones don't........ I thought it was only the conference championship game that mattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I thought it was only the conference championship game that mattered. That is the one game that counts every year....lets hope we win that one!!! Maybe at 5-6 UND can face a different foe for a trip to the dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 This a must win. Can't lose to the Cats wither time we play them. Need to win these very winnable games. If nothing else to give this team some confidense. Been a while since they won a game!! There are no guaranteed "winnable" games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 There are no guaranteed "winnable" games. MSU 3 point favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopster Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Montana st is the Vegas favorite -2.5... game is more winnable for Montana St. A win would be a good start to making the playoffs and beating the expert pre-season predictions of 9th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Montana st is the Vegas favorite -2.5... game is more winnable for Montana St. A win would be a good start to making the playoffs and beating the expert pre-season predictions of 9th. LOL. Now UND is an underdog to Montana State and if they win it would be a "good" win? MSU is complete crap and was picked 11th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 LOL. Now UND is an underdog to Montana State and if they win it would be a "good" win? MSU is complete crap and was picked 11th. The poster wrote "good start" not "good win" -- big difference. Although I don't think there's such a thing as a bad win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The poster wrote "good start" not "good win" -- big difference. Although I don't think there's such a thing as a bad win. The poster went out of their way to show that UND was a supposed underdog and a win would therefore be a good one. Also, the poster made sure to set the bar low again by bringing up the 9th place prediction in poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopster Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The poster went out of their way to show that UND was a supposed underdog and a win would therefore be a good one. Also, the poster made sure to set the bar low again by bringing up the 9th place prediction in poll. Well pal the Money is on Montana St. to win. They are not a "supposed underdog" They are a factual underdog genius. The money picks Montana St. A poster with no skin in the game disagrees. Well go bet the house against Montana St.... Montana St rates a 4 pt home court advantage. So yeah an upset win is an extra nice win. Talk is cheap unless it is backed by $$$ and the $$$ picks Montana St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 We machup evenly with MSU, both teams have won 2 DI games. UND ranks (according to ESPN.COM) 302nd in points, 309th in rebounds, 334th in assists, and 253rd in FG%. MSU is 301st in points, 206th in rebounds, 264th in assists, and 326th in FG%. They did score just 28 points against Kentucky. UND 70 MSU 68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Well pal the Money is on Montana St. to win. They are not a "supposed underdog" They are a factual underdog genius. The money picks Montana St. A poster with no skin in the game disagrees. Well go bet the house against Montana St.... Montana St rates a 4 pt home court advantage. So yeah an upset win is an extra nice win. Talk is cheap unless it is backed by $$$ and the $$$ picks Montana St. That is exactly my point. Your boy has his squad so far down that they are dogs to a perennial doormat. And you are calling it an "upset" win if UND happens to pull it out. Also, "the money" (whatever the heck that means) has nothing to do with the game line. Its a mathematical formula, that in this case shows how poor UND is right now. Linesmakers know nothing about these teams other than their points for and points against, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Well pal the Money is on Montana St. to win. They are not a "supposed underdog" They are a factual underdog genius. The money picks Montana St. A poster with no skin in the game disagrees. Well go bet the house against Montana St.... Montana St rates a 4 pt home court advantage. So yeah an upset win is an extra nice win. Talk is cheap unless it is backed by $$$ and the $$$ picks Montana St. Chaminade over Ralph Sampson and Virginia is a nice upset win. North Carolina State over Phi Slamma Jamma is a nice upset win. Villanova over Georgetown is a nice upset win. Let's not over-react to one bad Big Sky team possibly beating another bad Big Sky team on their own court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 There will be more comments on siouxsports bitching if we lose, then posts cheering if we win. It's just easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 There will be more comments on siouxsports bitching if we lose, then posts cheering if we win. It's just easier. That same rule will probably apply to any Alabama or Ohio State football message board today as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 There will be more comments on siouxsports bitching if we lose, then posts cheering if we win. It's just easier. Because we know the tough road ahead, a lot of fans have NO, ZERO, NADA, confidence that we can play a BSC opponent (especially on the road) and walk out with a win. That's where OOC play comes in. You win an OOC game you not only you gain confidence in the fanbase but the players as well. I see a win in conference play a game closer to the tournament so it's a good thing. It's the bad losses that people harp on. Last year it was Cal Poly, Omaha, and Southern Utah. This year it was TX-PA, and blowouts to NDSU, Utah and Minnesota. Losing to a P5 team is one thing but losing by 36+ is embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 UND ranks 302nd in points, 309th in rebounds, 334th in assists, MSU is 301st in points, 206th in rebounds, 264th in assists, Not a recipe for success on the boards. Assists reveal a need for team-oriented focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Because we know the tough road ahead, a lot of fans have NO, ZERO, NADA, confidence that we can play a BSC opponent (especially on the road) and walk out with a win. That's where OOC play comes in. You win an OOC game you not only you gain confidence in the fanbase but the players as well. I see a win in conference play a game closer to the tournament so it's a good thing. It's the bad losses that people harp on. Last year it was Cal Poly, Omaha, and Southern Utah. This year it was TX-PA, and blowouts to NDSU, Utah and Minnesota. Losing to a P5 team is one thing but losing by 36+ is embarrassing. You ar dead wrong darell. OOC means nothing. Nada. Zilch. Could have just as well played 15 scrimmages against local high school teams until conference play started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 You ar dead wrong darell. OOC means nothing. Nada. Zilch. Could have just as well played 15 scrimmages against local high school teams until conference play started. Hmmm I have heard that from someone else too. It's nice to have 2 months of basketball tryouts before conference play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Once again, we all want to debate on the extremes, because that's where it's more fun. But the truth is somewhere in the middle. We all know that the OOC schedule is NOT unimportant, but at the same time, no one believes the Big Sky slate is the end all be all, though winning it is the most logical path for any team to get good position for the conference tourney and a chance at getting into The Big Dance. But back to the extremes, 'cause it's more fun. What I think is not debatable is that any low to mid major that tears it up in the OOC portion of the schedule and completely falls on its face in the conference has somewhere close to zero chance of getting into the NCAA tourney. Whereas, an abysmal OOC showing, regardless if it's filled with Power 5 teams or D II cupcakes, followed by a winning conference effort, gets a team in position to make a run for The Dance. What OOC games are good for for most teams outside the P5 is tuning up, working out kinks, snatching an occasional upset if you can catch them napping, and finally, positioning the conference's collective ranking in such a way that it might get the eventual auto-bid conference winner as high a seed as possible in the NCAAs. But we all know, whether we admit it or not, that the realistic path to the NCAA tourney begins this afternoon in Bozeman. We are 0-0 in the conference, and our no-show against SU, collapse against SDSU in Brookings and our failure to adjust in second halves against P5 teams, mean very little for the next two months. What I think is completely debatable is the Xs and Os and coaching decisions that lead to these various outcomes. Carry on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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