darell1976 Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Defense is different in terms of calls. Coverages are different. I hope we see a whole new team both offense and defense, take all the plays Muss used burn it and start over from the beginning. Quote
Matt Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 You have high expectations on this team?? This is a rebuilding team with a new coaching staff. Muss had this team in a deep hole and it's Bubba's job to get us out of the hole and back on solid ground, Bubba is not a miracle worker and it's not going to be done overnight. Muss had us expecting positive things last year which upped the expectations only to have them crushed every Saturday. If UND gets blown out (ex. Idaho) you try to fix what is broken, but if you win it's against the FBS, and you gain confidence not only in the players but in fans and that will show with attendance. Playing Valpo last year didn't prove anything, playing Drake before that didn't prove anything. Play the FBS and see where you stand against the top level of football. No I do not. High expectations for the program. I was pretty clear in outlining the problems the 2014 team is facing. Quote
Hawkster Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Enough with the political correctness already. No one should get upset or discouraged if UND doesn't win or gets blown out in week 1; however, UND has talent and should go into the game with the goal of winning. And because I support UND athletics, I'd rather go into week 1 assessing reasons why UND could win rather than reasons why they could lose. I'm hoping for UND's first FBS win now that UND is being led by a competent coach in Bubba Schweigert. I honestly feel we are in line to expect this team to go 6-6 with no blowouts. We need to hang with SDSU simply because they aren't a top dog team. Quote
New 2 UND Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Anyone heading to San Jose for the game? We will be going to cheer on UND. Looking to finalize travel plans this week. Quote
gfhockey Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 ill be happy if we compete instead of playing toe to toe Quote
Teeder11 Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 SJSU is playing Navy on ESPNU now on Midco 320 in GF as part of its Top 25 games of 2013-14 countdown. Quote
Teeder11 Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 All I can say is I am sure glad that Fales and that WR Nunn are gone. The big threats that I can see on offense, as far as returning starters, are Winston (WR), Tucker (RB) and possibly that big Lawson guy at running back. They like to throw a lot to their running backs and use them effectively as check down receivers who give them lots of YAC. On defense it appears that their D line and secondary will be made up of veteran starters, however, their linebackers are relatively greener. Looks like they run a 4-3 defense. We compare favorably to them size-wise at most positions on D and O, though I am the first to admit that that size doesn't tell you squat about one's athleticism. Quote
Nodak78 Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 5 weeks from today this should be an interesting thread after the San Jose game. Quote
darell1976 Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 5 weeks from today this should be an interesting thread after the San Jose game. After the game we can see where this team is at, and even compare the good/bad to last year's team. I hope to see a lot of improvement on 2 counts, defense, and rushing. Quote
UND Fan Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 After the game we can see where this team is at, and even compare the good/bad to last year's team. I hope to see a lot of improvement on 2 counts, defense, and rushing. AND FOCUS/DISCIPLINE Quote
geaux_sioux Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 I'm giving them 3 games. 1 FBS 1 lower level FCS and one very solid FCS. Also game three is where the excuses of new system and players should be out the window. Quote
darell1976 Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 I'm giving them 3 games. 1 FBS 1 lower level FCS and one very solid FCS. Also game three is where the excuses of new system and players should be out the window. You do know that Missouri State is game three right? They haven't won more than 6 games since 1996. Not exactly solid, but the rest of your post is spot on. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 You do know that Missouri State is game three right? They haven't won more than 6 games since 1996. Not exactly solid, but the rest of your post is spot on. They've been getting better the last couple years and were a solid team last year. I'm not concerned with their record from the 90s and 2000s we play them this year and they won't be that bad at all. Quote
darell1976 Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 They've been getting better the last couple years and were a solid team last year. I'm not concerned with their record from the 90s and 2000s we play them this year and they won't be that bad at all. They are known for being tough at home so I will give them that, of course we are nowhere close to solid until we start proving ourselves. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 They are known for being tough at home so I will give them that, of course we are nowhere close to solid until we start proving ourselves. Also look at the scores from last year. They won 4 of their last 5 and only lost to Northern Iowa by 7. They also went to Southern Illinois and whooped them. Quote
homer Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 You do know that Missouri State is game three right? They haven't won more than 6 games since 1996. Not exactly solid, but the rest of your post is spot on. They will be solid. They have a three year starter back at QB who is athletic and some weapons around him on offense. They put up points on some good defenses last year and going off last year, our defense didn't stop anyone. Quote
darell1976 Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 They will be solid. They have a three year starter back at QB who is athletic and some weapons around him on offense. They put up points on some good defenses last year and going off last year, our defense didn't stop anyone. But thats last year, and hopefully our defense won't be at pee-wee level like last year. Like I said we aren't solid either until we prove ourselves. Quote
southpaw Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 But thats last year, and hopefully our defense won't be at pee-wee level like last year. Like I said we aren't solid either until we prove ourselves. So you posted about them not being solid and cited their wins since the 90s. But then followed up a post with the sentence "But that's last year." Makes a lot of sense... 3 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 So you posted about them not being solid and cited their wins since the 90s. But then followed up a post with the sentence "But that's last year." Makes a lot of sense... Wait I like this logic. This means we kick ass and didnt suck the last two years. Quote
Matt Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Also look at the scores from last year. They won 4 of their last 5 and only lost to Northern Iowa by 7. They also went to Southern Illinois and whooped them. They are familiar with Bubba. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 They are familiar with Bubba. More importantly Bubba is familiar with them Quote
UND-1 Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 More importantly Bubba is familiar with them Except Bubba had much better players to work with at SIU. Not exactly starting from scratch at UND, but not far from it. Quote
UNDColorado Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 At this point I think we ought to just focus on game one against SJSU. We really have no clue what kind of team we will have and in the past I have been overly optimistic so I am kind of tempering that until we can see what we are working with. The have a new coach just like us and thankfully Fales has graduated....we would be in a lot of trouble if he was still running their offense. Hopefully we can make a game of it and build from there. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Except Bubba had much better players to work with at SIU. Not exactly starting from scratch at UND, but not far from it. Can we stop with this "scratch" talk? Half of the potential starters for 2014 weren't even on the team in 2013, so it's impossible to know what kind of team UND will have in 2014 until the games are being played. 1 Quote
UND-1 Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Can we stop with this "scratch" talk? Half of the potential starters for 2014 weren't even on the team in 2013, so it's impossible to know what kind of team UND will have in 2014 until the games are being played. You're pretty much making my point. They are starting over, from "scratch", with all new ingredients. If the coaches liked what they had, they would not be bringing in all these players. Which means they are hitting the reset button. Quote
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