bincitysioux Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 This is a very key game IMO. I was very confident coming into this season, but after getting embarrassingly shelled by a very pedestrian Cal Poly team on a neutral floor and a lackluster performance against a beatable Bowling Green team, I find it hard to be overly confident about any opponent at this point. North Dakota should be favored to win this one rather comfortably at the Sioux Center, but you just never know with this schizophrenic team. The Jacks aren't setting the world on fire, but they are coming off a very impressive win against a very good Belmont team. They are 3-7 with an RPI of 218. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I think the Jacks are finally finding their identity without Wolters and bringing in a few new pieces (Larson from UF). Hopefully it doesn't include zone defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAK13 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I think the Jacks are finally finding their identity without Wolters and bringing in a few new pieces (Larson from UF). Hopefully it doesn't include zone defense. They would be foolish not to zone us. I kind a hope they do so we have another chance to work on it with a team that is very like most Big Sky teams because all that matters at this point is the Big Sky season. I've seen some progress in our zone offense lately and especially when Schuler is in the middle. He makes great passes from that position and takes very smart and good shots. I have also seen more passing from others that generally don't like to pass and if we are hitting our open shots we will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 They would be foolish not to zone us. I kind a hope they do so we have another chance to work on it with a team that is very like most Big Sky teams because all that matters at this point is the Big Sky season. I've seen some progress in our zone offense lately and especially when Schuler is in the middle. He makes great passes from that position and takes very smart and good shots. I have also seen more passing from others that generally don't like to pass and if we are hitting our open shots we will be fine. Definitely agree. Nagy is a good coach, he will have no issue throwing a zone at UND. Hopefully there is a good crowd there, should be lots of people with tickets already from the Big Game pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 Either Belmont is not very good or the Summit League is awesome. Denver is beating the hell out of them right now......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Either Belmont is not very good or the Summit League is awesome. Denver is beating the hell out of them right now......................... Belmont beat North Carolina a couple of weeks ago so I'd say Belmont is descent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Belmont beat North Carolina a couple of weeks ago so I'd say Belmont is descent. I believe they were missing a couple guys on this trip, fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 SDSU is long.... and their starting 5 is very solid. All 5 of their starters are 10+ ppg and any one of them can have a big game. Dykstra is the "Star" so to speak, one of the best players in the summit and one of the best inside/outside threats in that conference. We all know what Chad White can do . Bittle looks to be another star guard in the making and is blossoming in his sophomore year (he is coming back from injury but looked pretty good against Belmont). Carlson is a solid senior who knows his role and at any time can go off for 15-20 points a night if needed. Larson is the surprise and has given SDSU what they needed out of the 5 and more. Good for him to apparently get his life back in some order after some struggles in HS and down in Florida. He has come a long way since the last time I saw him play, when his SF roosy team played ours in Minnesota. However, SDSU is not deep. They do have the highly decorated freshman Broman (who can go off and score) off the bench but that is about it for scoring. Something Heemstra can provide good minutes. Personally, SDSU is the biggest threat to NDSU winning the summit and not DU. If they can develop so much as a bench I think they can serious challenge NDSU. In our end, they will run zone to use their length and protect their bench. We need to be very aggressive in attacking the zone and make them pay. This needs to be a win at home to start gaining some positive momentum for conference play. Our 1st 6 conference games will be very important with 2 big road trips to UNC and Montana, with a home game against Weber thrown in. Also throw a ISU team that can play junk D anything can happen their. I expect this team (minimum) when MLK day rolls around to be at 9-7 and 5-1 in conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 SDSU is long.... and their starting 5 is very solid. All 5 of their starters are 10+ ppg and any one of them can have a big game. Dykstra is the "Star" so to speak, one of the best players in the summit and one of the best inside/outside threats in that conference. We all know what Chad White can do . Bittle looks to be another star guard in the making and is blossoming in his sophomore year (he is coming back from injury but looked pretty good against Belmont). Carlson is a solid senior who knows his role and at any time can go off for 15-20 points a night if needed. Larson is the surprise and has given SDSU what they needed out of the 5 and more. Good for him to apparently get his life back in some order after some struggles in HS and down in Florida. He has come a long way since the last time I saw him play, when his SF roosy team played ours in Minnesota. However, SDSU is not deep. They do have the highly decorated freshman Broman (who can go off and score) off the bench but that is about it for scoring. Something Heemstra can provide good minutes. Personally, SDSU is the biggest threat to NDSU winning the summit and not DU. If they can develop so much as a bench I think they can serious challenge NDSU. In our end, they will run zone to use their length and protect their bench. We need to be very aggressive in attacking the zone and make them pay. This needs to be a win at home to start gaining some positive momentum for conference play. Our 1st 6 conference games will be very important with 2 big road trips to UNC and Montana, with a home game against Weber thrown in. Also throw a ISU team that can play junk D anything can happen their. I expect this team (minimum) when MLK day rolls around to be at 9-7 and 5-1 in conference. Very nice analysis. They are better than their record and hopefully so are we. We will be so much quicker than them but we must continue to improve on playing unselfish and make the extra pass or otherwise they will outplay us as a team. I predict we will by 4-6 points is all, a real close one throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I got 4 free tickets to this game if anyone wants them. I can't make it unfortunately. Send me a PM if interested. Edit: tickets taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 Dexter said 1,800 tix sold for this game. That's pretty good since the students will be gone. Sounds like more of the same. We are way more athletic, but they'll play zone, and that has stumped us so far. We are so much better than the Jacks, but I'm not confident heading in. Win this game and it will do a lot toward heading into Big Sky play................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Dexter said 1,800 tix sold for this game. That's pretty good since the students will be gone. Sounds like more of the same. We are way more athletic, but they'll play zone, and that has stumped us so far. We are so much better than the Jacks, but I'm not confident heading in. Win this game and it will do a lot toward heading into Big Sky play................... Based on what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Based on what? Where is the game being played? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Based on what? UND boat raced the top Summit team in Grand Forks. Montana beat the Jacks in Brookings. That being said, SDSU has looked like they are figuring it out and if UND plays like they have been on the road, the Jacks will win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 UND boat raced the top Summit team in Grand Forks. Montana beat the Jacks in Brookings. That being said, SDSU has looked like they are figuring it out and if UND plays like they have been on the road, the Jacks will win. Lol We haven't played the Bison yet and UND hasn't played the Grizz yet,not that comparative scores mean anything anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Where is the game being played? Good point. The home team is always better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Lol We haven't played the Bison yet and UND hasn't played the Grizz yet,not that comparative scores mean anything anyway. Not sure where I said they had. You asked what the opinion of UND being better than the Jacks was. I was pointing out that UND light up what is predicted to be the top team in the Summit. And in Brookings (where SDSU is very good), they lost to what is predicted to be a team equal with UND. UND historically plays very well at home and despite that, I said if they played like they did on the road the last few weeks SDSU would win. What is your reasoning that SDSU is better than UND since you seem to be surprised that people (on a UND fan board) think UND is the better team in a game being played in Grand Forks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Good point. The home team is always better. LOL - Pretty much. Between SDSU, UND, and NDSU, all the home teams have won. If it was at SDSU, my prediction would be Jacks by 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Not sure where I said they had. You asked what the opinion of UND being better than the Jacks was. I was pointing out that UND light up what is predicted to be the top team in the Summit. And in Brookings (where SDSU is very good), they lost to what is predicted to be a team equal with UND. UND historically plays very well at home and despite that, I said if they played like they did on the road the last few weeks SDSU would win. What is your reasoning that SDSU is better than UND since you seem to be surprised that people (on a UND fan board) think UND is the better team in a game being played in Grand Forks? Especially when SDSU beat UND on a buzzer beater in Brookings last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Especially when SDSU beat UND on a buzzer beater in Brookings last year. Especially when said UND team didn't have its best player..... and SDSU still had theirs..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 UND boat raced the top Summit team in Grand Forks. Montana beat the Jacks in Brookings. That being said, SDSU has looked like they are figuring it out and if UND plays like they have been on the road, the Jacks will win. ....and UND got trashed by NDSU last year but almost beat the Jackrabbits. Comparative scoring has very little place in basketball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 ....and UND got trashed by NDSU last year but almost beat the Jackrabbits. Comparative scoring has very little place in basketball. On the court, head to head is what matters. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 ....and UND got trashed by NDSU last year but almost beat the Jackrabbits. Comparative scoring has very little place in basketball. Thanks for your valued input. 95-77. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I agree with Johnboy. Case in point, this year at the Betty. Head to head says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risky Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 ....and UND got trashed by NDSU last year but almost beat the Jackrabbits. Comparative scoring has very little place in basketball. I guess a person can go round and round. We didn't have Brekke( 2 minutes) and no Huff last year when we played NDSU. This year with still no Brekke but with Huff back UND trashed NDSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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