Conference Realignments - Take 2

[forksandspoons]

7 minutes ago, cberkas said:

They didn’t say. 

Care to elaborate on who “they” might be? A UND source?

[forksandspoons]

10 minutes ago, AJS said:

Very good post.

Here's one thing I'll say about the financial piece. Look at a school's endowment for a fair look into their fundraising power. From an article two weeks ago.

I can't find NDSU's #'s, but would suspect that their current endowment is higher, but not significantly higher (498 million at end of 2024). If you look at facts, they will tell you that UND can hang financially with NDSU.

 

*UND is also on the backend of their Forever UND campaign*

 

Fundraising momentum is very strong right now and I’d expect the endowment to balloon over the next couple years. 

[jdub27]

10 minutes ago, AJS said:

I can't find NDSU's #'s, but would suspect that their current endowment is higher, but not significantly higher (498 million at end of 2024). If you look at facts, they will tell you that UND can hang financially with NDSU.

Accurate.
Difference is NDSU currently has the donors who are willing to funnel fistfuls of money directly into FBS football/athletics. Not sure the appetite quite there for UND for that right now. And honestly, if things break right, they may not need to be. NDSU did what they felt was necessary, which is outbidding the biggest loudmouth in the room (Sac St). Don't blame them for doing it given the position they were in, but again, the facts are that they will shortly have a new president, the previous president made their financial situation better but it is nowhere near fixed and the state is eyeing around 10% budget reductions next year. Not a lot of room for error.

There is likely a scenario in the future where the landscape changes drastically and UND (plus other peer schools) end up where they need to be without paying 8 figures.

[cberkas]

11 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

Care to elaborate on who “they” might be? A UND source?

It’s is at the bottom of this press release. They never say a thing unless the school does first of any of the studies they do. (They also have done 25 NHL feasibility studies.)
 

The NDSU FBS feasibility study was started in 2021. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

would guess

tarleton sdac and montanas

[bison73]

15 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

augie then...minot state....

you got any better ideas mr fenton?

I  never thought it would happen but we have a new Sioux Volley. Wow

[GeauxSioux]

9 minutes ago, bison73 said:

I  never thought it would happen but we have a new Sioux Volley. Wow

I cannot believe that you are coming over to SiouxSports to denigrate a former member here, who passed away suddenly a few years ago.  I found SiouxVolley to be a thoughtful person who spent a lot of time thinking through scenarios that would benefit UND.  Some of his ideas were really out there and some made a lot of sense. I always enjoyed reading his posts.

NDSU has made their move and now it rests on the other Dakota schools to look ahead to their own futures.  Move along and don't let that door hit you on your backside.

[SIOUXFAN97]

16 minutes ago, bison73 said:

I  never thought it would happen but we have a new Sioux Volley. Wow

i'll take that as a complement

[bison73]

https://www.captiongenerator.com/v/2314696/hitler-reacts-to-ndsu's-fbs-move

[petey23]

21 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

imo going forward 1a and 1aa are donesey....they figure out scholly's numbers max min and whatnot and if your d1a or 1aa right now...it's all d1 and cfp will just do the top 16 or 24 ranked football teams regardless is your mwc pac12 ivy or meac....so....maybe fenton could

und, st thomas, usd, sdac, and omaha join the mvc.....makes 16

 

und/st thomas

usd/sdac

omaha/drake

bradley/northern iowa

 

uic/valpo

siu/illinois state

murray state/belmont

evansville/indiana state

 

merge the mvfc with the mvc=8 football schools (eyes on drake and st thomas moving fb from pioneer to mvc =10)

und, usd, sdac, niu, siu, isu-red, isu-blue, and murray state

 

mvc brings in und, st thomas and omaha as hockey members and adds affiliates of

denver, air force, arizona state, western michigan, miami, and bowling green with an opening for a current mvc school or 2 to add hockey....NIU? UIC? Belmont?

conference tourney for hockey and basketball in st louis

 

mvc gets 4 men's swimming and diving schools (they have 4 affiliates) (omaha, st thomas, usd, sdac)...

mvc gets 2 more men's soccer team (they have 3 affiliates)...(omaha and st thomas)

mvc gets 4 more women's swimming (they have 2 affiliates )...(omaha, st thomas, usd, sdac)

 

make it happen fenton

your welcome

And when St. Thomas goes to the Big East in a few years?

[jdub27]

28 minutes ago, bison73 said:

https://www.captiongenerator.com/v/2314696/hitler-reacts-to-ndsu's-fbs-move

Seems like a whole lot of concern on what UND fans think about this.
Makes it tough to buy the whole "we've moved on" charade...

Half the comments are just trolling NDSU fans at this point and fishing is good.
Some of the other ones sound like the outlandish things that have been tossed around by NDSU fans the last decade.

But carry on and you do you.