Conference Realignments - Take 2

[Sioux>Bison]

14 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

Does NDSU have 10+ Million dollars in their pocket they aren’t telling anyone about? 
 

 

Yea they have all the money they want for football but when it comes to the rest of the programs and academics screw them!

[The Sicatoka]

28 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said:

Ndsu can't cut sports. Currently sponsoring the bare minimum i think. May need to add a ladies sport.

Correct. At minimum 16 now. 

[nodak651]

This is the opportunity for w hockey advocates to write a letter to the Fargo paper.  Their use of prong thee for title ix is a joke.  They are likely going to add w wrestling if anything because its cheap despite their prong 3 title ix polling that shows literally zero interest.

Equestrian and Hockey would be D1 if they were sponsoring w sports based on interest/abilities as they claim.

[Sioux>Bison]

3 hours ago, jdub27 said:

8 figures upfront plus huge cost increases to move out of your recruiting area and play late night games in different time zones while you don't have a president and the state is looking at 10% cuts across the board due to declining oil prices. What could go wrong? 

Also, I'd be curious to see the AG's opinion on how working through a mediator somehow negates having to comply with open record requests. At least claim you can't disclose ongoing contract negotiations. 

Not only are oil prices low but oil production is about to fall in the coming years. The whole state will then have to tighten their budgets. If NDSU thinks they are going to float their FBS dreams with private donations more power to them but good luck if that isn’t their plan.

[Kab]

31 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said:

Ndsu can't cut sports. Currently sponsoring the bare minimum i think. May need to add a ladies sport.

Cow wrestling 

[Kab]

1 minute ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Not only are oil prices low but oil production is about to fall in the coming years. The whole state will then have to tighten their budgets. If NDSU thinks they are going to float their FBS dreams with private donations not power to them but good luck if that isn’t their plan.

Burgum can give them the money 

[fightingsioux4life]

7 minutes ago, Kab said:

Burgum can give them the money 

If Burgum was going to bankroll this, wouldn't they have done it a long time ago?

[Sioux>Bison]

11 minutes ago, Kab said:

Burgum can give them the money 

Private money is never going to run out??  Ag industry is down, oil is down, hopefully people have enough money in their bank accounts to bankroll NDSU’s move and continuous play in the FBS.

news flash to all you bison fans but your school isn’t good enough to invite all your programs, ndsu is a one trick pony in a decimated league with members that don’t give off FBS vibes, good luck on this move. We will see you in a few years!

[Siouxperman8]

what is the estimated yearly cost increase beyond the approx $15M up front?   

In December Hero sports provided details on MWC spending vs. NDSU currently.  Eye opening if true.  Somebody's gonna have to write a big check each year. 

Football Expenses - MWC

Average (Mean): $18,988,564

• Leader: Colorado State University, $31,356,224
• Lowest: University of Nevada (Reno), $13,562,661

North Dakota State: $6,527,171

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

read between the lines.....mwc says they ain't adding fcs....then ndac calls and said how much to buy in...mwc floats a number...ndac starts crunching numbers and it doesn't compute but the idea of buying the used impala is now out there and a school like sac state or ttarleton that has waaaaaay more than the ndac calls and says "we'll take the impala for 48k (ndac said we'd go to 38k).......more money for them and used the ndac like a bizzo/hooker.

mwc commish be like...

[FSSD]

3 hours ago, jdub27 said:

8 figures upfront plus huge cost increases to move out of your recruiting area and play late night games in different time zones while you don't have a president and the state is looking at 10% cuts across the board due to declining oil prices. What could go wrong? 

Also, I'd be curious to see the AG's opinion on how working through a mediator somehow negates having to comply with open record requests. At least claim you can't disclose ongoing contract negotiations. 

Don't they need to add sports?  And Title IX could be a problem.

[JohnboyND7]

22 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

This is the opportunity for w hockey advocates to write a letter to the Fargo paper.  Their use of prong thee for title ix is a joke.  They are likely going to add w wrestling if anything because its cheap despite their prong 3 title ix polling that shows literally zero interest.

Equestrian and Hockey would be D1 if they were sponsoring w sports based on interest/abilities as they claim.

This is silly. Girls wrestling is much more popular than horseback riding and I'm guessing hockey too.

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, JohnboyND7 said:

This is silly. Girls wrestling is much more popular than horseback riding and I'm guessing hockey too.

[nodak651]

1 minute ago, JohnboyND7 said:

This is silly. Girls wrestling is much more popular than horseback riding and I'm guessing hockey too.

Not according to the polling that they have done for the sole purpose being to satisfy title ix interest/abilities requirements.

[SIOUXFAN97]

if fenton is even alive the threat of expulsion from the midcon should be enough to get the ndac to shut up about fbs.....

at least put the fear out the fenton if your not too busy hanging around the offices of the mvc

[JohnboyND7]

26 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Not according to the polling that they have done for the sole purpose being to satisfy title ix interest/abilities requirements.

Would you show us said polling?

[The Sicatoka]

27 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Not according to the polling that they have done for the sole purpose being to satisfy title ix interest/abilities requirements.

Did you get an answer to your FOIA request?  

[Kab]

47 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

If Burgum was going to bankroll this, wouldn't they have done it a long time ago?

Need an invite from a conference, simple

[nodakvindy]

Lots to unpack.

Forum communications can't be loving this, they will lose their marquee property and valley news will be able to promote the one or two games that might make the CW.

Fargodome will also see fewer dates as FBS NDSU will likely have 5 home dates a year, on occasion 6. With one of the likely still an FCS team, just on obscure one. That will also trickle down to less hotel and restaurant business.

But the DeKalb corn cob trophy game with Northern Illinois and the once a generation curb stomping in the College Football playoff with make the move worthwhile. 

I would expect recruiting in the Midwest will be tougher when you can no longer sell winning, a shot at the natty, and games that your family can see.

And no, there better not be a penny of state taxpayer funds going toward this folly. 

I can only hope UND leadership dont act like lemmings and overreact to this.  The one real concern is stability and future of the Summit League.  That is something that does need to addressed. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, nodakvindy said:

Lots to unpack.

Forum communications can't be loving this, they will lose their marquee property and valley news will be able to promote the one or two games that might make the CW.

Fargodome will also see fewer dates as FBS NDSU will likely have 5 home dates a year, on occasion 6. With one of the likely still an FCS team, just on obscure one. That will also trickle down to less hotel and restaurant business.

But the DeKalb corn cob trophy game with Northern Illinois and the once a generation curb stomping in the College Football playoff with make the move worthwhile. 

I would expect recruiting in the Midwest will be tougher when you can no longer sell winning, a shot at the natty, and games that your family can see.

And no, there better not be a penny of state taxpayer funds going toward this folly. 

I can only hope UND leadership dont act like lemmings and overreact to this.  The one real concern is stability and future of the Summit League.  That is something that does need to addressed. 

why?  they say mvfc, summit, and nchc are independent conf...one has nothing to do with other right?????

where's fenton

[JohnboyND7]

2 hours ago, F'n Hawks said:

 

But like you said, there are no rules anymore. NDSU can probably sue and not have a transition period.

Sad but true

[SIOUXFAN97]

in five years augie hockey will have a larger following inthe region than ndac football......

[Siouxphan27]

3 hours ago, Kab said:

Cow wrestling 

I believe they already have a club team.  

[Kab]

Don’t kid yourself

they will pack the ffd when Hawaii,Wyoming and a few others come to fargo

not sure about some of the other teams

what will ticket prices and club fees for season tickets have to go up

i guess that’s their problem , remember it’s a METRO and the 3 amigos from the forum will be on 24/7 promoting the biggest event in the area 

[fightingsioux4life]

44 minutes ago, Kab said:

Don’t kid yourself

they will pack the ffd when Hawaii,Wyoming and a few others come to fargo

not sure about some of the other teams

what will ticket prices and club fees for season tickets have to go up

i guess that’s their problem , remember it’s a METRO and the 3 amigos from the forum will be on 24/7 promoting the biggest event in the area 

How will the prospect of no more championship runs impact interest from the fan base? Going to the Whatever.com Bowl in mid December with a sparkling 7-5 record is going to be hard for Forum Communications to hype up.