UNDBIZ Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Was just perusing eGriz and saw someone suggested the Rattlesnakes. I actually don't mind that one or something along those lines. Could use the color green easily enough and could shorten it to the Rattlers if needed. Might offend some people going from Sioux (snake) to Rattlesnakes, but personally, I'm done being sensitive to their opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Only if we catch a bunch & turn em loose on this side of the Mo River Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Wasn't there a minor league baseball team in Bismarck called the Dakota Rattlers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Reminds of FAMU. Me no likey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Wasn't there a minor league baseball team in Bismarck called the Dakota Rattlers? Correct. Until the Prairie League folded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedgreen Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Add "Wildcatters" to this poll...thinks it fits "North Dakota" much better than any of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 If we don't make a move in football soon, maybe our new mascot can be and new song http://www.hark.com/clips/whxlqhkpbp-cricket-chirping-dot-mp3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Maryland has their Terrapins. Snapping Turtles. Oh Snap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLap2 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The nickname should be the Fighting Norse. It is the closest thing to Fighting Sioux. We wouldn't even have to create a new logo; we can continue using the interlocking ND. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The nickname should be the Fighting Norse. It is the closest thing to Fighting Sioux. We wouldn't even have to create a new logo; we can continue using the interlocking ND. That might upset the Germans and the Polish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 As long as we don't pick from this list, we should be okay ... http://www.theonion.com/articles/most-offensive-team-names,34170/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 At risk of repeating myself ... a-a-a-a-gain ... "Norse" fails the test that failed "Sioux". The actual NCAA policy bans monikers related to "race, ethnicity, or national origin", or what some call the RENO rule. Yes, the NCAA is not enforcing it equally (Irish, Seminoles, Vandals) but you have to know they'd love to slap us again just to slap us again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 At risk of repeating myself ... a-a-a-a-gain ... "Norse" fails the test that failed "Sioux". The actual NCAA policy bans monikers related to "race, ethnicity, or national origin", or what some call the RENO rule. Yes, the NCAA is not enforcing it equally (Irish, Seminoles, Vandals) but you have to know they'd love to slap us again just to slap us again. i think ur a little mistaken on your take on the Fighting Norse...you can't have monikers related to race, ethnicity, or national origin IF they are deemed "hostile or abusive" and if you don't have the closest tribe (or in our case the two closest) to sign off on it you are deemed to have a hostile or abusive mascot/moniker...Fighting Norse would pass the test and make UND a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 i think ur a little mistaken on your take on the Fighting Norse...you can't have monikers related to race, ethnicity, or national origin IF they are deemed "hostile or abusive" and if you don't have the closest tribe (or in our case the two closest) to sign off on it you are deemed to have a hostile or abusive mascot/moniker...Fighting Norse would pass the test and make UND a lot of money. The approval by the tribes was a method to give the NCAA an out in cases where there was actually push back on the new policy. It wasn't part of the original policy. The long term goal of the NCAA still appears to be eliminating all Native American nicknames and imagery. The policy does discuss racial, ethnic and national origins. It isn't a big stretch of the imagination to think that they will extend the policy to all nicknames and imagery related to race, ethnicity or national origin at some time. So, at this point in time a name like Fighting Norse is not against the policy, but tSic has always wanted to avoid human nicknames that might be a target of an expanded NCAA policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 i think ur a little mistaken on your take on the Fighting Norse...you can't have monikers related to race, ethnicity, or national origin IF they are deemed "hostile or abusive" and if you don't have the closest tribe (or in our case the two closest) to sign off on it you are deemed to have a hostile or abusive mascot/moniker...Fighting Norse would pass the test and make UND a lot of money. Well if one Scanda-hoovian takes offense to the name then it's game over, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I just hope its not the blizzard or freeze, or anything with bugs (mosquitos, gnats). Nicknames like Varmints or Channel Cats were good for minor league teams but not schools. Also nothing with just green...Big Green (Dartmouth), or Fighting Green or the Mean Green (North Texas). I am sure Roughriders will be tops on everyone's(those involved with the name changing committee) list. It would be tough for anyone that went to Central to cheer for Rough Riders. Norse sounds good, but it sounds like something associated with Vikings (Augustana, Minnesota (NFL), Portland State). Cavalry sounds violent (think PC now). Just think in just 14 months this brainstorm will become a reality. FOURTEEN MONTHS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Well if one Scanda-hoovian takes offense to the name then it's game over, right? It only took a minority of a minority to make the last name disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 i think ur a little mistaken on your take on the Fighting Norse...you can't have monikers related to race, ethnicity, or national origin IF they are deemed "hostile or abusive" and if you don't have the closest tribe (or in our case the two closest) to sign off on it you are deemed to have a hostile or abusive mascot/moniker...Fighting Norse would pass the test and make UND a lot of money. The RENO rule is in place. There is no "if" in the official policy. I can't find the "if" written down anywhere other than in a settlement document specific to and pertaining only to UND. The NCAA chose to enforce it's policy against UND but hasn't pressed the issue anywhere else. To that point, how would Notre Dame get tribal approval? Would they need a resolution out of Dublin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 The RENO rule is in place. There is no "if" in the official policy. I can't find the "if" written down anywhere other than in a settlement document specific to and pertaining only to UND. The NCAA chose to enforce it's policy against UND but hasn't pressed the issue anywhere else. To that point, how would Notre Dame get tribal approval? Would they need a resolution out of Dublin? I can't find it right now, but there was an official policy related to tribal approval. The NCAA decided they would allow appeals on a case-by-case basis and that "The decision of a namesake sovereign tribe, regarding when and how its name and imagery can be used, must be respected even when others may not agree." It was first announced for Florida State. With that precedent it was also set up for other schools using Native American names and imagery. They set up a window of time for the schools to get tribal approval. That's how other schools like Utah State still have approval for using Native American names. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/24/sports/24mascot.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 http://archives.republicans.edlabor.house.gov/archive/hearings/109th/fc/ncaa121506/franklin.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 It was first announced for Florida State. With that precedent it was also set up for other schools using Native American names and imagery. They set up a window of time for the schools to get tribal approval. That's how other schools like Utah State still have approval for using Native American names. http://www.nytimes.c...wanted=all&_r=0 http://archives.repu...06/franklin.htm Wow, I didn't realize Utah State needed NCAA approval to use 'Aggies' as their nickname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I do believe he meant to say the Utah Utes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I do believe he meant to say the Utah Utes. Utah, Utah St..... what's the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Utah, Utah St..... what's the difference? And people groan when NDSU and UND are mistaken for each other... Yes, I'm aware that 82SiouxGuy probably meant the Utah Utes and not the Utah State Aggies. At least he didn't confuse Utah with BYU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 And people groan when NDSU and UND are mistaken for each other... Yes, I'm aware that 82SiouxGuy probably meant the Utah Utes and not the Utah State Aggies. At least he didn't confuse Utah with BYU. Or Sacred Heart with Holy Cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Or Sacred Heart with Holy Cross. Now you're just being silly. Everyone here already knows about the 2006 game between that good Catholic school, St Lawrence, and their upset of the Gophers in the NCAA tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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