former players

[The Sicatoka]

They'll all deny, deny, deny. 

[farce poobah]

https://www.nhl.com/news/zach-parise-reignited-by-stanley-cup-pursuit-with-colorado-avalanche

[Frozen4sioux]

22 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

You think Francis leaked this to try to take the heat off of him?

Yes.

[Esoteric]

On 2/26/2024 at 2:23 PM, brianvf said:

Pretty great seeing Duncan out there again.  Getting to share it with his kids is pretty darn cool too:

 

Duncan & Duncan & Duncan 

[SIOUXFAN97]

3 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said:

Yes.

say what you want about hak but being unlikable by his players or fellow coaches is not one of them.....

[SuhakiYeahYeah]

Decent first period hatty for the brockstar.

Does he have any college eligibility left?

[BigGreyAnt41]

Pretty cool article about Parise: 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/how-zach-parise-made-an-indelible-stamp-on-american-hockey/ar-BB1mrkkt

[Frozen4sioux]

Brutal news about Brock,

mentally has to be just as difficult and physically challenging.

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1792564751173648670?t=s7KUdphsgtI_kGTUu3G35A&s=19

[SIOUXFAN97]

8 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:

Brutal news about Brock,

mentally has to be just as difficult and physically challenging.

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1792564751173648670?t=s7KUdphsgtI_kGTUu3G35A&s=19

[SuhakiYeahYeah]

 

 

[MGsioux]

On 5/20/2024 at 12:25 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said:

What a pathetic post on your part.  Leave Brock the F alone.  

[SIOUXFAN97]

44 minutes ago, MGsioux said:

What a pathetic post on your part.  Leave Brock the F alone.  

kinda lronic that your saying leave brock alone......if he would have been allowed to be left alone he maybe would've played in game 7 and maybe his career wouldn't be in limbo...but you do you i guess.

[MGsioux]

12 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

kinda lronic that your saying leave brock alone......if he would have been allowed to be left alone he maybe would've played in game 7 and maybe his career wouldn't be in limbo...but you do you i guess.

Your such an idiot , hopefully your tin foil hat isn't too tight and you can sleep ok.  Anyone who comes here and makes comments like u about Brock is not a real sioux fan.  You troll 

[SIOUXFAN97]

20 minutes ago, MGsioux said:

Your such an idiot , hopefully your tin foil hat isn't too tight and you can sleep ok.  Anyone who comes here and makes comments like u about Brock is not a real sioux fan.  You troll 

tin foil hat?  it says it right on the side of the bottle (took them a while to add it) but I guess what do I know I never got close enough to one of those bottles so I might be incorrect.

If his career is over (like billy price and others) will he speak his mind bc at that point he wouldn't have anything to lose.

[Brett0909]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

tin foil hat?  it says it right on the side of the bottle (took them a while to add it) but I guess what do I know I never got close enough to one of those bottles so I might be incorrect.

If his career is over (like billy price and others) will he speak his mind bc at that point he wouldn't have anything to lose.

I think the point is that there could be a lot of reasons Brock experienced this. It sucks. Bad. Acting like it’s a statement of fact and tying it a political or anti-vax agenda isn’t helpful. Nor is it factual. Maybe check out some published studies on the now massively researched risk profile before making comments like this (hint, your risk of clots is exponentially higher from non-vaxed Covid infection than from the vaccine) or worse, making statements that Brock will regret getting the vaccine and cost him his career. 

The chances that a clot could occur from drugs (legal or not) or steroid usage (whether anabolic or cortico- again, legal or not) is SIGNIFICANTLY statistically higher than risk from the vax which is almost nonexistent. But you don’t see anyone accusing him of drug or steroid use just because he’s an elite athlete. Why? Because it would be incredibly irresponsible to do so and he’s a great dude that deserves better. Suggest we spend our energy putting goodness into the world for his recovery. 

[iramurphy]

16 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

tin foil hat?  it says it right on the side of the bottle (took them a while to add it) but I guess what do I know I never got close enough to one of those bottles so I might be incorrect.

If his career is over (like billy price and others) will he speak his mind bc at that point he wouldn't have anything to lose.

It took very little effort to view a replay of Brock’s interview where he explained the cause of his blood clot. 
He was struck on his calf by a puck which initially caused a superficial clot and subsequently a deep venous thrombosis. What made you think you had the faintest idea what caused his DVT? To post a photo of a different athlete with band aids on his shoulder after a vaccination,  is a deliberate attempt to mislead others.

Billy Price (former NFL lineman) issued a statement relating his saddle pulmonary embolus was “spontaneous with no medical cause”.
 

Reading something on the side of a bottle like you claim you did is not a substitute for years of training, years of experience, a thorough review of the medical literature and an honest evaluation and discussion regarding risks and benefits of a vaccine . That is why people should make an informed decision after discussing medical recommendations with their physicians.
 

It would be the same as claiming everyone who rides a bike will develop diminished cognitive skills because of one known case where a guy morphed into a pathetic, ignorant moron from riding a bike with his head so far up his ass he has to brush his teeth every time he takes a dump.
 

 

 

[90siouxfan]

Rule #7 of internetting:  Always assume your opponent in a discussion is a 12 yr old special needs person.

[burd]

2 hours ago, 90siouxfan said:

Rule #7 of internetting:  Always assume your opponent in a discussion is a 12 yr old special needs person.

Corollary rule #8:   Always assume your opponent assumes their opponent thinks like a 12-year-old special needs person.

And they may be right.  

[90siouxfan]

1 minute ago, burd said:

Corollary rule #8:   Always assume your opponent assumes their opponent thinks like a 12-year-old special needs person.

And they may be right.  

All things appoint affimative Captain, Spock out...

 

In today's upside down world they are whatever they think they are....

[SIOUXFAN97]

6 hours ago, iramurphy said:

It took very little effort to view a replay of Brock’s interview where he explained the cause of his blood clot. 
He was struck on his calf by a puck which initially caused a superficial clot and subsequently a deep venous thrombosis. What made you think you had the faintest idea what caused his DVT? To post a photo of a different athlete with band aids on his shoulder after a vaccination,  is a deliberate attempt to mislead others.

Billy Price (former NFL lineman) issued a statement relating his saddle pulmonary embolus was “spontaneous with no medical cause”.
 

Reading something on the side of a bottle like you claim you did is not a substitute for years of training, years of experience, a thorough review of the medical literature and an honest evaluation and discussion regarding risks and benefits of a vaccine*. That is why people should make an informed decision after discussing medical recommendations with their physicians.
 

It would be the same as claiming everyone who rides a bike will develop diminished cognitive skills because of one known case where a guy morphed into a pathetic, ignorant moron from riding a bike with his head so far up his ass he has to brush his teeth every time he takes a dump.
 

 

 

Didn't take long before BigPharma...oops i mean Ira chimed in with his "nothing to see here" talking points.

So Brock gets whacked with pucks for 20 years and then all of a sudden boom his career in limbo after taking an experimental gene therapy shot that has a risk / benefit ratio of 0% benefit to Brock and a 100% risk to Brock and one of the "safe and effective" side effects is...........blood clots.  Any "Doctor" worth a damn would have told Brock you don't need this and you SHOULDN"T take it.

And let me guess Ausar Thompson and Christian Koloko got their blood clots after getting hit in their calves by airballs? And Frederick Anderson got his from all the high fives he was giving while sitting on the bench?

* the word vaccine has isn't what it used to be i guess

 

[krustyklown]

26 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

Didn't take long before BigPharma...oops i mean Ira chimed in with his "nothing to see here" talking points.

So Brock gets whacked with pucks for 20 years and then all of a sudden boom his career in limbo after taking an experimental gene therapy shot that has a risk / benefit ratio of 0% benefit to Brock and a 100% risk to Brock and one of the "safe and effective" side effects is...........blood clots.  Any "Doctor" worth a damn would have told Brock you don't need this and you SHOULDN"T take it.

And let me guess Ausar Thompson and Christian Koloko got their blood clots after getting hit in their calves by airballs? And Frederick Anderson got his from all the high fives he was giving while sitting on the bench?

* the word vaccine has isn't what it used to be i guess

 

Moderators, is this an appropriate time to extricate this user from this forum?

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 minutes ago, krustyklown said:

Moderators, is this an appropriate time to extricate this user from this forum?

Why would you want Ira kicked off SS.com comrade?

[iramurphy]

7 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

Didn't take long before BigPharma...oops i mean Ira chimed in with his "nothing to see here" talking points.

So Brock gets whacked with pucks for 20 years and then all of a sudden boom his career in limbo after taking an experimental gene therapy shot that has a risk / benefit ratio of 0% benefit to Brock and a 100% risk to Brock and one of the "safe and effective" side effects is...........blood clots.  Any "Doctor" worth a damn would have told Brock you don't need this and you SHOULDN"T take it.

And let me guess Ausar Thompson and Christian Koloko got their blood clots after getting hit in their calves by airballs? And Frederick Anderson got his from all the high fives he was giving while sitting on the bench?

* the word vaccine has isn't what it used to be i guess

 

So we should believe a moron who regurgitates the false narrative from the antivax websites rather than the former patient who states clearly how he was injured and subsequently developed a DVT?  

You have no knowledge of the different vaccines, a basic working knowledge of our immune system nor a clue as to risks and benefits of the vaccine. You also seem unaware there were different vaccines for COVID and not all of them increased the risk of blood clots. You also don’t seem to understand that none of the vaccines do anything to our DNA and therefore your stupid claim that Brock received “an experimental gene therapy shot” is dishonest. 
 

Every doctor “worth a damn” utilizes evidence based medicine as a foundation for their medical practice and a standard of care consistent with what is in the best interest of each individual patient. There are reasons that virtually every competent, board certified physician would have recommended a patient like Brock be vaccinated. He would be at increased risk because of his frequent travel as well as increased exposure to many people whose Covid status is unknown. Although as a healthy young adult who would likely survive a Covid infection, he would decrease his chance of becoming infected which decreases the chance he would spread the disease to others including teammates. That decreases the risk of players missing games cuz they are sick. Vaccinated people are less likely to develop serious illness or die from Covid. For Brock he also should have been vaccinated to protect his immunocompromised father who had multiple risk factors. Failure by medical personnel to have reviewed those recommendations would be a failure of the physician to provide the appropriate standard of care for this individual. 
 

None of the other athletes you mentioned have reported clots related to vaccines. It has been known for a number of years that professional athletes have a higher risk of blood clots than the average patient.  Montreals Howie Morenz died of a pulmonary embolus in 1937.  Tbs Andrei Vasilevsky (2015), Penguins Tomar Vokoun (2013-14), Rangers Jed Ortmayer (2006), Panthers Tomar Fleishman (2011), Flyers  Kimmo Timonen (2014), Penguins Pascal Dupuis (2013), Cleveland Cavaliers Anderson Varejao and Browns Jason Pinkton all developed DVT’s or Pulmonary emboli long before COVID or Covid vaccines. Sports Illustrated did an article in December 2014 about the increased risk of blood clots in athletes. 
 

Your ignorant Big Pharma comment has nothing to do with this topic. Take that discussion up with the morons and conspiracy nut jobs on a different website. 
 

Your continued attempt to push a false narrative regarding a former player and others shows ignorance, dishonesty, immaturity and a lack of character. 

[The Sicatoka]

< puts on moderator hat > 

I'm done with this vaccine conversation. Period. It's delving near to violating "no politics". 

Move along, or consequences. 

[The Sicatoka]

Cam Johnson and Mark Senden to the Finals. 

Cam looking for a third. 

https://x.com/FL_Everblades