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On 6/20/2025 at 1:51 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

Just having Toews on the team is huge for experience and leadership, whether or not he wears the "C".

I imagine he'll get an 'A.' Seems to me that it would be disruptive to downgrade Lowry. 

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53 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Hopefully he takes a hometown discount and doesn't wind up another Zach Mauer situation. He brought us to the promised land, he would be a deity in the state of MN for doing so with the Wild.

Side note: his draft class was stacked

https://www.eliteprospects.com/draft/nhl-entry-draft/2015

Still hard to believe the Wild didn’t take him when they had a chance to 

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2 hours ago, sioux rube said:

Still hard to believe the Wild didn’t take him when they had a chance to 

Look at the Bruins draft.  3 guys drafted in first round that don’t total the number of games a lot of individuals in that draft have achieved, and missing out on Connor, Ek and Boeser. 3 guys also in the second round, and one in the third and they only hit on one in those rounds as well. So Debrusk and Carlo are the only two that have done something and no longer with the team. Someone should have lost their job with that poor drafting and the guys they missed on.

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6 minutes ago, skateshattrick said:

Who is Zach Mauer?

It's a portmanteau of Zach Parise and Joe Mauer, two big name MN natives who signed massive contracts and were often injured. Credit goes to MN sports fan Negative Dave.

I'm admittedly not in tune with baseball so I don't know if Mauer was a disappointment (he is in the HoF so probably not) but Parise definitely was. The buyout is only now off the books for the Wild.

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25 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

It's a portmanteau of Zach Parise and Joe Mauer, two big name MN natives who signed massive contracts and were often injured. Credit goes to MN sports fan Negative Dave.

I'm admittedly not in tune with baseball so I don't know if Mauer was a disappointment (he is in the HoF so probably not) but Parise definitely was. The buyout is only now off the books for the Wild.

Parise going to Minnesota will be a move he shouldn't have done. Could have won a Cup but went to Minnesota. 

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On 6/20/2025 at 3:58 PM, Blackheart said:

Does Toews have any connection with UND anymore?  Seems like he got pissed about something, maybe related to when his brother was at UND, and really hasn't had much to do with North Dakota since then.  Did he ever bring the Cup to Grand Forks?   He had 3 opportunities; don't remember that ever happening.

Just because he didn't bring the Stanley cup back to Grand Forks doesn't mean much of anything. If you look up where he brought it, you would understand his reasoning for bringing it where he brought it. Carter Rowney didn't bring it back to GF, does that mean he is pissed off at UND?

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2 hours ago, cberkas said:

Parise going to Minnesota will be a move he shouldn't have done. Could have won a Cup but went to Minnesota. 

I was thinking the same thing at the time. Turns out I was right (unfortunately).

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3 hours ago, cberkas said:

Parise going to Minnesota will be a move he shouldn't have done. Could have won a Cup but went to Minnesota. 

I can't remember what teams were looking to sign him after NJ but how do you conclude that he would've won one? If he resigned with the Devils, he would've been worse off as the Devils were terrible (due to Lou's generosity of handing out bad contracts) after Parise left.

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4 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

I can't remember what teams were looking to sign him after NJ but how do you conclude that he would've won one? If he resigned with the Devils, he would've been worse off as the Devils were terrible (due to Lou's generosity of handing out bad contracts) after Parise left.

Wild were not a contender when he was there, he could have gone to other teams then the Wild or Devils. 

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32 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Wild were not a contender when he was there, he could have gone to other teams then the Wild or Devils. 

True, the Wild were never serious contenders to win the Cup and the Devils just fell off the face off the earth after he left but its hockey, there are no guarantees that one will win a Stanley Cup. Look at the teams that won it while he was in Minnesota, I don't think he would've been on any of the teams that won it (Blackhawks, Kings, Pens, Lightning, and Caps) or played in the Finals.

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1 hour ago, cberkas said:

Wild were not a contender when he was there, he could have gone to other teams then the Wild or Devils. 

No Team would have been a contender with Him on it with the contract he signed.  

When him and Sutter signed it was thought that they were cup contenders, but both him and Sutter never lived up to their contracts.

 

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4 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:

Just because he didn't bring the Stanley cup back to Grand Forks doesn't mean much of anything. If you look up where he brought it, you would understand his reasoning for bringing it where he brought it. Carter Rowney didn't bring it back to GF, does that mean he is pissed off at UND?

No it doesn't; but Rowney didn't have 3 chances to bring it back either.  Also, Rowney didn't have a younger brother coming in after him...David Toews played two years at UND and then left for the WHL Brandon Wheat Kings.  My memory isn't great on this but I thought there was some hard feelings after David Toews left UND.  I'm sure there are some historians around that remember better than me.

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43 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

No it doesn't; but Rowney didn't have 3 chances to bring it back either.  Also, Rowney didn't have a younger brother coming in after him...David Toews played two years at UND and then left for the WHL Brandon Wheat Kings.  My memory isn't great on this but I thought there was some hard feelings after David Toews left UND.  I'm sure there are some historians around that remember better than me.

Doesn't really shed much light on if there was bad blood between either Toews brother and UND after he left, but I found this article where he talks about why he left and how he didn't have regrets at UND:

https://thehockeywriters.com/david-toews-speaks-out-about-leaving-the-ncaa-for-the-whl/

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17 hours ago, Blackheart said:

No it doesn't; but Rowney didn't have 3 chances to bring it back either.  Also, Rowney didn't have a younger brother coming in after him...David Toews played two years at UND and then left for the WHL Brandon Wheat Kings.  My memory isn't great on this but I thought there was some hard feelings after David Toews left UND.  I'm sure there are some historians around that remember better than me.

I guess if an ex-UND player doesn't bring the Stanley Cup back to GF, I don't look too much into it. It is there day to do whatever they want with it. 
 

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19 hours ago, Big Green said:

No Team would have been a contender with Him on it with the contract he signed.  

When him and Sutter signed it was thought that they were cup contenders, but both him and Sutter never lived up to their contracts.

 

I wouldn't say neither lived up to their contracts, as those two players brought in a lot of money for the Wild. I would say the problem lied within management and wanting to make a splash in free agency rather than put together a winning team based on logic because you knew what kind of production he was going to give you. He was never going to give you 40 goals or average 100 points in a season. Parise's contract with the Wild is for a players like Ovie/McDavid (IMO). Parise was a good player but not for what he was getting paid for by the Wild. 

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