siouxweet Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Schlossman's story today on the controversy of Gino's hire might be laying the foundation for the uproar that will happen if Dane is hired. Quote
yzerman19 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 wow...wow...wow...how about Big10 programs, hockey East programs...ECAC programs, NOT a guy from Augustana. And I'm clued in with Chippaz from 06-10 for the record. Quote
Pump It Up Posted March 25 Posted March 25 3 minutes ago, SpudsSioux said: I'm confused by how many people think Raboin is inexperienced? Six years as an Assistant at St. Cloud,4 at Minnesota. Was widely known to be the recruiter that brought in a number of the studs that St. Cloud and Minnesota got. Only real thing he had to do to prove himself is take a Head Coaching job and he's nailed that so far. I remember when people questioned giving Carle the reins at DU having never been a HC and he was technically "less experienced" than Raboin is now. If it's not at UND, he'll be the next coach at Minnesota or St. Cloud; whichever opens first. I think it's also worth noting because there is no reason anyone would know this, but I think for the first four or five of those years at SCSU Motzko was the head, obviously. Assistants were a brand new Raboin and Mike Gibbons who was there forever. This would lead one to assume that Raboin was the third man of the staff but that's not how it worked. Gibbons was a tremendous coach and recruiter - he's responsible for all those Nordic guys who scored on UND or kept UND from scoring. But he was happy with his role and Raboin was Motzko's right hand from the day he was hired. Quote
SiouxBoys Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 minute ago, yzerman19 said: wow...wow...wow...how about Big10 programs, hockey East programs...ECAC programs, NOT a guy from Augustana. And I'm clued in with Chippaz from 06-10 for the record. We know. You're a very important person. Anytime anybody forgets it, you're the first one there to remind them. We thank you for your service. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 25 Posted March 25 9 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: Hak is younger than Berry. Younger than that. And I don't mean just in chronological age. I'm talking demeanor, style, communication, relatability to 18 to 23 year old young men........the intangibles that are difficult to measure, but are arguably just as important, if not more so. 1 Quote
SpudsSioux Posted March 25 Posted March 25 He WAS a top assistant at a Big10 program. So you're saying if he hadn't taken on the Augustana job to prove he had what it took to be a head coach, you would be more comfortable with UND hiring him? I will tell you he came to speak at a camp in Moorhead last summer and everything I heard was that the players loved him. He also landed one of them (Bergeson) shortly after. 1 Quote
fsioux Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Any rumors to Emilio Estevez getting the job. He did a great job in Mighty Ducks!! 2 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 25 Posted March 25 7 minutes ago, siouxweet said: Schlossman's story today on the controversy of Gino's hire might be laying the foundation for the uproar that will happen if Dane is hired. It is a good reminder that an assistant coach won't necessarily keep everything the same. It's a fair point, one I have made a few times since Sunday. But for the record, I don't think Jackson is the right choice. Quote
Pump It Up Posted March 25 Posted March 25 3 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: wow...wow...wow...how about Big10 programs, hockey East programs...ECAC programs, NOT a guy from Augustana. And I'm clued in with Chippaz from 06-10 for the record. Nothing would get people more juiced than a proven associate head coach from the ECAC. UND can really bust that upstate New York pipeline wide open as everyone has been dreaming of when they hire Joe Smith from Colgate. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Just now, fsioux said: Any rumors to Emilio Estevez getting the job. He did a great job in Mighty Ducks!! IALTO Quote
AJS Posted March 25 Posted March 25 10 minutes ago, siouxweet said: Schlossman's story today on the controversy of Gino's hire might be laying the foundation for the uproar that will happen if Dane is hired. If not, he seems to be not so subtilty showing who he wants to be the next coach. I hope it's my theory and not yours. Quote
SiouxBoys Posted March 25 Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Younger than that. And I don't mean just in chronological age. I'm talking demeanor, style, communication, relatability to 18 to 23 year old young men........the intangibles that are difficult to measure, but are arguably just as important, if not more so. KG is younger but doesn't connect with the players at all. Quote
yzerman19 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 3 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: We know. You're a very important person. Anytime anybody forgets it, you're the first one there to remind them. We thank you for your service. I want what's best for the program. We can disagree without making it personal. I would want more brand cache than Raboin brings. Quote
UND1983 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 It would be classic Chavez to hire Dane after firing Berry. Just perfecto 1 Quote
siouxkid12 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 minute ago, fsioux said: Any rumors to Emilio Estevez getting the job. He did a great job in Mighty Ducks!! I was thinking Coach Reilly. He sure knew how to get those blue chip players, even if that meant breaking district line rules. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Just now, SiouxBoys said: KG is younger but doesn't connect with the players at all. You know what I meant. I am not going to go round and round with you on semantics. Quote
burd Posted March 25 Posted March 25 I don't know shyt about any of this inside stuff or about other teams' coaches, and I don't have a preference. But if Jackson is hired, it seems to me that continuing the Berry style is the last thing he'd do. He, more than just about anybody, knows how ready the program is for a new direction and has seen up close and personal how brutal the UND HC position can be when you don't measure up. 3 Quote
SiouxBoys Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 minute ago, yzerman19 said: I want what's best for the program. We can disagree without making it personal. I would want more brand cache than Raboin brings. Bringing in an Associate HC from the ECAC is your idea of brand cache? 1 Quote
SiouxBoys Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Just now, fightingsioux4life said: You know what I meant. I am not going to go round and round with you on semantics. My point is, you saying no to Hak simply because of his age, even though he's always been an incredible recruiter and has always had a knack for connecting with his players and getting the most out of them, is stupid. Quote
Pump It Up Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Just now, SiouxBoys said: Bringing in an Associate HC from the ECAC is your idea of brand cache? And without looking it up name one associate head coach in the ECAC. Ten seconds. Don't cheat. (I got zero) Quote
OopsSioux Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 minute ago, SpudsSioux said: He WAS a top assistant at a Big10 program. So you're saying if he hadn't taken on the Augustana job to prove he had what it took to be a head coach, you would be more comfortable with UND hiring him? I will tell you he came to speak at a camp in Moorhead last summer and everything I heard was that the players loved him. He also landed one of them (Bergeson) shortly after. I think the most important part of being a head coach is the ability to motivate whomever you have on your roster and your staff as well. A team with moderate talent that is ready to believe they can perform better is often the team that does perform well. Getting the most out of your guys is a true testament to your ability. Identifying weaknesses and strengths and scheming to them is another important trait. Quote
jdub27 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, burd said: I don't know shyt about any of this inside stuff or about other teams' coaches, and I don't have a preference. But if Jackson is hired, it seems to me that continuing the Berry style is the last thing he'd do. He, more than just about anybody, knows how ready the program is for a new direction and has seen up close and personal how brutal the UND HC position can be when you don't measure up. I assume the "what would you do different" is a fairly important piece of the puzzle and he'd really have to sell that. If the answer was nothing, why wouldn't they just keep BB one more year? Quote
gfhockey Posted March 25 Posted March 25 14 minutes ago, siouxweet said: Schlossman's story today on the controversy of Gino's hire might be laying the foundation for the uproar that will happen if Dane is hired. Cliff notes? Quote
Siouxdaddy Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Currently boots on ground on campus (specifically Memorial Union). If the fellas see anyone walking around with Cháves, we will report immediately. Quote
tnt Posted March 25 Posted March 25 9 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: We know. You're a very important person. Anytime anybody forgets it, you're the first one there to remind them. We thank you for your service. But he's from California, and we know that they have the reputation for being very humble. 1 Quote
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