2025-26 University of North Dakota Hockey Season

[Sweethockey]

10 hours ago, .357 said:

Interesting. 

When you say the school came up with $125k for Dane, do you mean it came from the 1883? Because NIL is all privately-funded. 

Is UND offering NIL to any other players besides Zellers? Wondering if they're saving some of that stash for a high-end center. 

A little surprised that one of the wealthiest families in ND, if not the wealthiest, the Rydells of GF, aren't donating big money to the hockey program. 

She said that Dane went to his boss for it. There was no mention of the 1883 collective for this. The 1883 collective is great but it doesn’t pay for play. It’s a pay for appearances and advertisement. At least that’s what I got out of it. 
Every Monday afternoon Katie is a guest on KFGO.

[AJS]

2 hours ago, Sweethockey said:

She said that Dane went to his boss for it. There was no mention of the 1883 collective for this. The 1883 collective is great but it doesn’t pay for play. It’s a pay for appearances and advertisement. At least that’s what I got out of it. 
Every Monday afternoon Katie is a guest on KFGO.

I've donated to the collective from the very beginning. It can absolutely be used for business use as appearances and advertisement. The general public that donate (like me), it's effectively pay for play. Why I say effectively, is I'm sure they have to do something (community service based) to collect, but I can tell you I've received no appearances or advertisement from the donations I've given.

[jdub27]

27 minutes ago, AJS said:

I've donated to the collective from the very beginning. It can absolutely be used for business use as appearances and advertisement. The general public that donate (like me), it's effectively pay for play. Why I say effectively, is I'm sure they have to do something (community service based) to collect, but I can tell you I've received no appearances or advertisement from the donations I've given.

This is fairly accurate.
1883 works with non-profits and other organizations, connects them with a student athlete who then does something with that group to "earn" the NIL money. This lines up pretty well with what the idea of NIL money was for. The other side is that businesses can work with the collective for direct promotional items with certain student athletes if they want as well, which again, would be the student athlete performing in some way to earn the NIL money. Individuals donating to the general fund (or specific sport) aren't going to necessarily see a specific return, however if you contact them, something could like be worked out such as an appearance or something else (cost dependent).

[Sweethockey]

Agreed 

[forksandspoons]

13 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Those are good examples of potential donors.

Altru 

Northrop Gruman 

General Atomics 

Cirrus 

LM Windpower

Retrax

Simplot

PS Industries

ICON 

JLG

Brady Martz

The future Agristo company  

Heck, even DigiKey

[gfhockey]

35 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

Altru 

Northrop Gruman 

General Atomics 

Cirrus 

LM Windpower

Retrax

Simplot

PS Industries

ICON 

JLG

Brady Martz

The future Agristo company  

Heck, even DigiKey

Sanford  too

[gfhockey]

Eide Bailey really pumps in money to sports on ndsu. 
 

does Brady martz for und

[Big Green]

3 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Eide Bailey really pumps in money to sports on ndsu. 
 

does Brady martz for und

Surprised Eide Bailey doesn't pump more money into UND athletics.  UND sends a lot of Graduates their way.

 

[gfhockey]

20 minutes ago, Big Green said:

Surprised Eide Bailey doesn't pump more money into UND athletics.  UND sends a lot of Graduates their way.

 

They got an office in forks? 

[Sweethockey]

16 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

They got an office in forks? 

They do the books for nearly every nursing home in ND. To answer your question, no they have offices in Bismarck and Fargo. Along with offices in 17 other states.

[.357]

3 hours ago, jdub27 said:

This is fairly accurate.
1883 works with non-profits and other organizations, connects them with a student athlete who then does something with that group to "earn" the NIL money. This lines up pretty well with what the idea of NIL money was for. The other side is that businesses can work with the collective for direct promotional items with certain student athletes if they want as well, which again, would be the student athlete performing in some way to earn the NIL money. Individuals donating to the general fund (or specific sport) aren't going to necessarily see a specific return, however if you contact them, something could like be worked out such as an appearance or something else (cost dependent).

The main advertiser on Through These Doors this past year was First Community Credit Union. Its main commercial this year was Jackson Kunz with a few others. So the 1883 arranged for Kunz & the other 3 to do a commercial for FCCU & then FCCU proceeded to pay them. Easy enough. 

My question is for the individuals such as @brianvf & others who donate to the 1883. Let's say $200k is collected from these individuals for the hockey program; not from businesses, but from individuals. These individuals are not a business & aren't donating for a commercial or some other promotion to be done for them where the player "earns" for his services. So how do these players "earn" this $200k collected from the 1883 via individuals if they're not doing a commercial or some other promotion? 

 

[NoDak Hockey Nation]

21 minutes ago, .357 said:

The main advertiser on Through These Doors this past year was First Community Credit Union. Its main commercial this year was Jackson Kunz with a few others. So the 1883 arranged for Kunz & the other 3 to do a commercial for FCCU & then FCCU proceeded to pay them. Easy enough. 

My question is for the individuals such as @brianvf & others who donate to the 1883. Let's say $200k is collected from these individuals for the hockey program; not from businesses, but from individuals. These individuals are not a business & aren't donating for a commercial or some other promotion to be done for them where the player "earns" for his services. So how do these players "earn" this $200k collected from the 1883 via individuals if they're not doing a commercial or some other promotion? 

 

They play hockey to earn their money. You don’t understand that NIL was just a way to trick the NCAA committees into allowing it to happen. It was always meant to be pay for play and we are a few months away from that being reality.

(To answer your question, at most schools, they have a set of standards the athlete has to abide by to keep getting paid by the collective. It’s not all commercials and appearances.)

[jdub27]

29 minutes ago, .357 said:

The main advertiser on Through These Doors this past year was First Community Credit Union. Its main commercial this year was Jackson Kunz with a few others. So the 1883 arranged for Kunz & the other 3 to do a commercial for FCCU & then FCCU proceeded to pay them. Easy enough. 

My question is for the individuals such as @brianvf & others who donate to the 1883. Let's say $200k is collected from these individuals for the hockey program; not from businesses, but from individuals. These individuals are not a business & aren't donating for a commercial or some other promotion to be done for them where the player "earns" for his services. So how do these players "earn" this $200k collected from the 1883 via individuals if they're not doing a commercial or some other promotion? 

Correct on the FCCU campaign. They asked for a handful of North Dakota athletes to put them in some commercials, billboards and other advertisements for them and paid them through the collective for those. In instances like that, the hiring business picks up the small cost that collective charges to cover their overhead and the athlete gets the full amount.

For the second part, that's where 1883 connects with local non-profits, community service organizations, schools, etc. to set up opportunities for the athletes to "perform a service" in return for getting the NIL money, with the amounts varying from player to player depending on what their contract with 1883 states. Plenty of creative ways for them to do things to "earn" their NIL. They are doing this to keep it above board and show something is being done in return for the money as at some point. That was was the original spirit and rules behind NIL and they have been advised from NIL-space attorneys that the NIL Clearinghouse will eventually start looking closer at these deals and make sure that it isn't directly pay for play. There is language in the NCAA settlement agreement about this as well.

They are very responsive to answering questions and being transparent about how they are operating if you have questions. I've seen them come speak to multiple groups laying out the above information. Anyone with questions should reach out and they will be more than happy to make sure any confusion is cleared up.

[.357]

1 minute ago, jdub27 said:

That was was the original spirit and rules behind NIL and they have been advised from NIL-space attorneys that the NIL Clearinghouse will eventually start looking closer at these deals and make sure that it isn't directly pay for play.

 

Appreciate your informed replies. The part about NIL Clearinghouse making sure it isn't pay-for-play is quite eye-opening. 

 

[Sweethockey]

[SJHovey]

I think people are being very smart if they are reluctant to just jump into NIL with both feet.  There are way, way too many questions, and the inevitable changes, to just throw $100,000 at some kid.

Say I give a prospect $100,000 to use his NIL, but conditioned upon him coming to play hockey at UND.  If I pay Shaq to promote Coke, I'm pretty sure that contractually he's not going to be able to drink Pepsi.  So this kid can't transfer, or quit, or sign a pro contract, or maybe take up baseball, while he is under NIL contract with me? 

As the holder of his NIL contract, can I assign it to someone else?  Can a booster at MN offer me $150,000 for the kids NIL deal, and the kid then has to go play for MN?

I could probably sit here all afternoon and type legitimate questions that anyone involved with NIL is worried about right now, and doesn't have an answer for.

[The Sicatoka]

Give money to UNDAA&F for athletic scholarship; get income tax deduction.
Give money to 1883 Collective; get decal and signed thank you note. 

Ummm ... yeah ... 

[forksandspoons]

8 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Give money to UNDAA&F for athletic scholarship; get income tax deduction.
Give money to 1883 Collective; get decal and signed thank you note. 

Ummm ... yeah ... 

Or, give money to 1883 for Gavin McKenna, and your business attracts a lot of eye balls to it when he scores highlight-reel goals and gets drafted #1 overall in 2026. 

[The Sicatoka]

2 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

Or, give money to 1883 for Gavin McKenna, and your business has millions of eye balls on it when he scores highlight-goals and gets drafted #1 overall in 2026. 

To @SJHovey's point (above): How do I contract with a 17 y/o? 

[Trunk Monkey]

Let me get this straight.  As something in this world really seems amiss.  I have worked my butt off for many years to have a nice life.  Put my kids through college, one  through UND.  I am fortuntate to  buy UND season hockey tickets, travel from some distance away and enjoy my hometown on several Sioux hockey weekends.  With the ticket cost is a pretty hefty donation to UND.  But I love UND so the donation is the right thing to do.  A hockey player coming in gets to play in arguably the best arena in the world, is catered to like no other, has their education or a portion thereof paid for and now we need to pony up additional funds to pay the players to play.  This is ridiculous.  I would rather pick out a Pee Wee team in the town I reside and buy them all a soda afer the game then fund .01 to this nonsense. 

[forksandspoons]

9 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

To @SJHovey's point (above): How do I contract with a 17 y/o? 

"Hey, Gavin, we have $200,000 in NIL for you from (insert business), all you have to do is film 3 commercials and we will pay you the first $100,000. Then, in order to receive the second $100,000, you will need to make 10 separate posts on your social media, and we will pay you $10,000 after each one." 

 

Something like that. From what I understand, 1883 is making those agreements with the athlete. I am sure someone here is able to answer more concretely. 

[Green Banner]

4 hours ago, forksandspoons said:

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Northrop Gruman 

General Atomics 

Cirrus 

LM Windpower

Retrax

Simplot

PS Industries

ICON 

JLG

Brady Martz

The future Agristo company  

Heck, even DigiKey

Bears Home Solutions

[The Sicatoka]

25 minutes ago, Trunk Monkey said:

Let me get this straight. ...  I would rather pick out a Pee Wee team in the town I reside and buy them all a soda afer the game then fund .01 to this nonsense. 

So you're not up for paying a college QB $4M?  

A two-way NHL ELC pays $95k when you're down (AHL).
Claims are Boisvert got $150k from BU collective.
Some NHL GM gonna love having to deal with that. 

[Blackheart]

2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

So you're not up for paying a college QB $4M?  

A two-way NHL ELC pays $95k when you're down (AHL).
Claims are Boisvert got $150k from BU collective.
Some NHL GM gonna love having to deal with that. 

Hope they pay him in Loonies.

[NoDak Hockey Nation]

44 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

"Hey, Gavin, we have $200,000 in NIL for you from (insert business), all you have to do is film 3 commercials and we will pay you the first $100,000. Then, in order to receive the second $100,000, you will need to make 10 separate posts on your social media, and we will pay you $10,000 after each one." 

 

Something like that. From what I understand, 1883 is making those agreements with the athlete. I am sure someone here is able to answer more concretely. 

He doesn’t even have to do commercials or social media posts. Can be much smaller.