2024 UND Football

[UND1983]

11 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

In 2023 he was 15/20 for 217 and a touchdown. I know that it would’ve all been garbage time stats but still find it hard to believe Romfo was just miles better than him 

you nailed it - the OC wanted to play the worst QB he had this past year

[Longtime fan]

Everything we question on here when it comes to in game decisions all rolls back into bubba and his hard head. He doesn't have the capability to change.    In the midst of an embarrassing losing streak he still can’t make a change.  Zero!  Clueless. We have had years of non change and years of 7-5 and 6-6 play. Consistently stays with whats not working.   But the guys were well prepared every week this year so there’s that anyways. 

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, gundy1124 said:

I don't know about the Tom Miller angle but to be clear on my frustration and disappointment.

Romfo is starting QB out of Camp while Feeney doesn't get a sniff.  Neither has proven a thing in a college football game.  Feeney has about 1,000 more completions in High School at the 5A level.  Feeney is taller, stronger arm, tons more throwing experience.  Simon runs better.  Feeney comes from a school that could be/has a pipeline of talent.  Simon is a feel good ND story.  Most are just asking, why not see something on the field?  Did Simon really blow Feeney and Jerry away in practice to the point it wasn't even close?  I find that hard to believe and as someone else mentioned I would trade Romfo with most other QBs in the MVFC.

I am frustrated with the lack of QB talent/development the past 11 years and in the process handled this past year so poorly UND can't even show their face at Moorhead High.  

All fair, and my comment wasn't directed at you. 
I can't see where the new OC had any allegiances and put who he thought had the best chance of winning on the field. I can't think of any other reason he would have went the direction he did.

As for the bolded....I agree, though Tommy was light years better than anyone expected him to be. But ultimately, if accurate, that seems like it would fall on the OC who was let go after 5 years and then the next OC who was here for the 5 years after as I think both were responsible for the QB position. Was the cupboard truly left as bad as it looked this year? 

[UND1983]

How about when Bubba kicked a field goal down 35-10 in the 4th quarter.  That was fun

[MinnDak]

9 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

All fair, and my comment wasn't directed at you. 
I can't see where the new OC had any allegiances and put who he thought had the best chance of winning on the field. I can't think of any other reason he would have went the direction he did.

As for the bolded....I agree, though Tommy was light years better than anyone expected him to be. But ultimately, if accurate, that seems like it would fall on the OC who was let go after 5 years and then the next OC who was here for the 5 years after as I think both were responsible for the QB position. Was the cupboard truly left as bad as it looked this year? 

Pick your game but the end of NDSU and Illinois State stand out. Imagine losing 6 of 7 games and putting your hands on your hips and saying “yep, that’s the best we could do. No other options.”

[SIOUXFAN97]

13 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

How about when Bubba kicked a field goal down 35-10 in the 4th quarter.  That was fun

how late INTO the 4th quarter...........

[UND1983]

3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

how late INTO the 4th quarter...........

8 minutes left in game

[wheelsup]

1 hour ago, gundy1124 said:

I don't know about the Tom Miller angle but to be clear on my frustration and disappointment.

Romfo is starting QB out of Camp while Feeney doesn't get a sniff.  Neither has proven a thing in a college football game.  Feeney has about 1,000 more completions in High School at the 5A level.  Feeney is taller, stronger arm, tons more throwing experience.  Simon runs better.  Feeney comes from a school that could be/has a pipeline of talent.  Simon is a feel good ND story.  Most are just asking, why not see something on the field?  Did Simon really blow Feeney and Jerry away in practice to the point it wasn't even close?  I find that hard to believe and as someone else mentioned I would trade Romfo with most other QBs in the MVFC.

I am frustrated with the lack of QB talent/development the past 11 years and in the process handled this past year so poorly UND can't even show their face at Moorhead High.  

preach!

I would even be willing to acknowledge that Romfo looked better in fall camp.. Miller seemed to think it was close.. i think I recall Kelly stating something about it being close.  There is still literally zero explanation for the backup QB playing so little particularly if it was close between them.  I personally only recall Jerry getting in 3 different games and 1 of them was for the final kneel down. Based on the score alone he should have gotten in 7 or 8 games.. not counting the USD game which was a bit of a wild ride.  Romfo literally played to the end of games that the opposing teams had gotten 3-4 QB's into the game.

The reasonable part of me says that the OC (Fruechte) gets to pick the QB and also focuses on overall talent development.. the conspiracy nut part of me says that Bubba is so invested in the small town ND boy starting QB at UND that he forced this to be the case and forced it to continue throughout the year.  By the way, both versions of this story are basic football team malpractice.. If Fruechte picked Romfo and also refused to give the backup any reasonable playing time in obvious situations he is an idiot.. if Bubba cut the legs out from under his OC and forced Romfo into every game he is also an idiot.. but then I would guess Fruechte would be leaving at the first chance.  Both reasons are terrible.. one is just more terrible than the other.. and by the way players see this and also get it.

[Hawkster]

1 hour ago, UND1983 said:

you nailed it - the OC wanted to play the worst QB he had this past year

Why would the OC deliberately play the worst QB?   That makes no sense.   Now if you're saying the OC made a horrible decision and didn't seem to understand who was better, that I could understand.

[90siouxfan]

I seem to recall a comment by announcers late in the season that UND appeared to have stopped using the "dudes with colorful hats" on the sidelines to get the plays in to Simon....  don't recall it being discussed or true but it made me wonder if Simon was the only QB that handled that part of the position to the satisfaction of the coaches?   Either way, was Jerry in somebody's doghouse? And isn't there a 3rd qb?

[Oxbow6]

5 hours ago, gundy1124 said:

On one hand a great ND story with literally a few DI walk-ons per 5 years to maybe 100 years, average it out.

OR - One of the biggest High Schools in MN that kicks out DI players annually and 1 hour away.  (and we had the coaches son on the roster)

This is a tough one for me if my program is struggling in landing top talent.

Well considering their QB has already made visits to Minnesota and K State....or that their top receiver has made a visit to Minnesota....or that their RB has made visits to Minnesota, K State and Nebraska you have no clue what you're talking about!

[UND1983]

Let's be honest, Moorhead kids haven't exactly been superstars.  Some contributors sure

[Oxbow6]

6 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Let's be honest, Moorhead kids haven't exactly been superstars.  Some contributors sure

But the HS tape vs Rugby was fire so there's that.

[UND1983]

21 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

But the HS tape vs Rugby was fire so there's that.

So neutral, agreed

Feeney couldn’t beat out Romfo and you dopes are making him into Dan Marino.  Dixon was a bust too.  Teiken hasn’t done much.  Otis as great for a spring season.  
 

[Parkers Pros]

These are not the OC’s QB’s. This is a RPO offense. Romfo showed the best control in the offense early. . Jerry is young. He will get the opportunity to beat Simon out. This year the OC can  recruit his guys both through the portal and new coming in. Actually he has his QB coming in as a true freshman. 
 

I agree on the Moorhead connection. Mixed bag. 

We need defense. Defense at all levels. Front 7 mostly we need guys to develop and hit some in the portal. Control the line of scrimmage and get to the QB.

[UND1983]

For everyone keeping score at home: Kaminsky also beat out Feeney.  

[wheelsup]

2 hours ago, UND1983 said:

For everyone keeping score at home: Kaminsky also beat out Feeney.  

Let’s say this slightly differently.. last game of the year.. really meaningless game at this point.. close game at half (10-14).. then 10-21.. then 10-28.. then 10-35.. then we kick a meaningless fg to make it 13-35.. never a sign of the back up qb.. romfos numbers 11/25 135yds.. 1td.. 1int.. what is the excuse for not putting in the backup at some point?
 

Defense is clearly the biggest issue.. but why no change at qb or attempt to develop the backup?  If romfo is the best we have the other two must be really bad. It’s mind blowing to not at least give the other guys a look.. this similar scenario repeated regularly thought the season.

[Irish]

1 hour ago, wheelsup said:

Let’s say this slightly differently.. last game of the year.. really meaningless game at this point.. close game at half (10-14).. then 10-21.. then 10-28.. then 10-35.. then we kick a meaningless fg to make it 13-35.. never a sign of the back up qb.. romfos numbers 11/25 135yds.. 1td.. 1int.. what is the excuse for not putting in the backup at some point?
 

Defense is clearly the biggest issue.. but why no change at qb or attempt to develop the backup?  If romfo is the best we have the other two must be really bad. It’s mind blowing to not at least give the other guys a look.. this similar scenario repeated regularly thought the season.

Bubba has some serious deficiencies in recruiting but his game and player management is off the charts bad.

[gundy1124]

5 hours ago, UND1983 said:

Let's be honest, Moorhead kids haven't exactly been superstars.  Some contributors sure

I don't get your point??  Moorhead HS has talented players, they are close to home, they have kids going FBS that could drop down to a school close to home.  Name a better pipeline to pick up a player or 2 per year or every other year.

[SooToo]

6 hours ago, UND1983 said:

 

... Dixon was a bust too.  Teiken hasn’t done much.  Otis as great for a spring season.  
 

Dixon, per Bubba's EOY press conference, battled injuries all year. He and Teiken were both Sophomores. Maybe a bit premature to brand them "a bust."

[Oxbow6]

Was Dan Marino a southpaw?

Asking for a dope.

[UND1983]

You’re all right - the production out of Moorhead is just about ready to explode!  We are sooooo close

[UND1983]

Seth Anderson has been a good player for us out of Moorhead.  

[Longtime fan]

9 hours ago, Irish said:

Bubba has some serious deficiencies in recruiting but his game and player management is off the charts bad.

100%
 

Said it a million times before but just look at him during a game. Lost!  His game face shows no confidence and control.  His actions than prove it.  
 

Instead of napping at meetings maybe  he should nap during the game ?  

[geaux_sioux]

20 hours ago, HoopsFan03 said:

1. They didn’t make the right decision 2. There was a lot of media (*cough cough* Tom Miller) pushing for Romfo due to the story and ND connection. Possibly that got between their ears a little too much as well

Not totally. Romfo was not pushed by Tom during camp. Nice story for sure but it was more about the failure of the other two than the rise of Simon. I know everyone expected so much more out of Trey and especially Jerry.