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Very impressive to see the growth in both in-person and online/hybrid.
UND was ahead of the game and it is paying dividends not to mention the significant investments that have been and continue to be made to campus.

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@nodak651, @UNDBIZ, @jdub27: Is this the meeting where NDSU will complain the present formula (that they designed and helped approve) is no good and a new formula is needed (which miraculously gives more money to NDSU and less to UND)? 

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19 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

@nodak651, @UNDBIZ, @jdub27: Is this the meeting where NDSU will complain the present formula (that they designed and helped approve) is no good and a new formula is needed (which miraculously gives more money to NDSU and less to UND)? 

Yes that is correct. This was part of the fbs move

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6 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Get a cat, they are prolific hunters. I'm sure my Hawthorne would do a bang up job, but I think he likes his Hill's Prescription Diet better. :p

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and the way they count students down there he would count towards their 9800 students...and dipping

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On 3/20/2026 at 1:34 PM, The Sicatoka said:

@nodak651, @UNDBIZ, @jdub27: Is this the meeting where NDSU will complain the present formula (that they designed and helped approve) is no good and a new formula is needed (which miraculously gives more money to NDSU and less to UND)? 

Wouldn't the statement more accurately be, a formula that hurts UND more than it hurts NDSU? If you look at the trends, the only reason NDSU is holding steady is because of their increased online presence. It feels to me like NDSU is throwing everything into the now (matching North Star program, FBS move, formula model). They need something to work (or in case formula model, hurts others more than them). If you're an NDSU alum. All eyes on Fall of 2027. Doesn't feel sustainable to pour $ into things like the North Star program and FBS move to stay stagnant in enrollment (without the dam eventually breaking).

For UND. All eyes on FR classes. What you're going to see if they go up is huge FR classes (relative to SR classes) replacing small SR classes for the next 2 years. The article I'm wanting to see is "Plans for a new dorm" because of capacity issues. 

 

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31 minutes ago, AJS said:

Wouldn't the statement more accurately be, a formula that hurts UND more than it hurts NDSU? If you look at the trends, the only reason NDSU is holding steady is because of their increased online presence. It feels to me like NDSU is throwing everything into the now (matching North Star program, FBS move, formula model). They need something to work (or in case formula model, hurts others more than them). If you're an NDSU alum. All eyes on Fall of 2027. Doesn't feel sustainable to pour $ into things like the North Star program and FBS move to stay stagnant in enrollment (without the dam eventually breaking).

For UND. All eyes on FR classes. What you're going to see if they go up is huge FR classes (relative to SR classes) replacing small SR classes for the next 2 years. The article I'm wanting to see is "Plans for a new dorm" because of capacity issues. 

Some of this is already happening to a degree. There was some commentary at the city council meeting about some new apartments being looked at and there was a comment about UND's growth and the continued need for housing but they are looking at Public/Private partnerships and additional units being built in Grand Forks by private developers as there is a going to be an uphill battle to get new housing built on campus with just state funds due to upcoming budget cuts and other priorities (I assume the new STEM building and Med School addition are higher priorities).

As for NDSU....who knows. They don't have a president, though the will within the next month or so. I'm sure others are lobbying on their behalf for a new formula though. The previous president's predecessor made some poor choices on adjusting to how students want to learn and they have paid for that with what has happened to their enrollment (along with some other decisions that were made). They still haven't actually balanced their budget from a decade ago while UND actually made some hard choices (some that were not popular) and right-sized things for future growth. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out, especially since it isn't a secret on how much money they just laid out for football. Whether it was actually privately funded or not is fairly irrelevant. I have a hard time seeing how the actual increase in operating costs will be privately funded, but the public perception on it won't matter if they are screaming for more money.

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2 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

There you go judging books by their covers. :wink:

Hawthorne is an awesome companion. I wouldn't give him up for all the money in the world.

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my ginger (Lily) too

 

Flame away, you cat-haters.

 

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On 3/25/2026 at 9:45 AM, jdub27 said:

Some of this is already happening to a degree. There was some commentary at the city council meeting about some new apartments being looked at and there was a comment about UND's growth and the continued need for housing but they are looking at Public/Private partnerships and additional units being built in Grand Forks by private developers as there is a going to be an uphill battle to get new housing built on campus with just state funds due to upcoming budget cuts and other priorities (I assume the new STEM building and Med School addition are higher priorities).

As for NDSU....who knows. They don't have a president, though the will within the next month or so. I'm sure others are lobbying on their behalf for a new formula though. The previous president's predecessor made some poor choices on adjusting to how students want to learn and they have paid for that with what has happened to their enrollment (along with some other decisions that were made). They still haven't actually balanced their budget from a decade ago while UND actually made some hard choices (some that were not popular) and right-sized things for future growth. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out, especially since it isn't a secret on how much money they just laid out for football. Whether it was actually privately funded or not is fairly irrelevant. I have a hard time seeing how the actual increase in operating costs will be privately funded, but the public perception on it won't matter if they are screaming for more money.

UND is still also working on right sizing the campus as well. Some of the bigger items to see on the campus this year are:

1. The bookstore is moving to more accessible location on campus at the Fieldhouse

2. Columbia Hall is supposedly supposed to be cleared out by either the end of the Spring term or during the summer. 

3. Obviously phase 1 of the STEM Complex is beginning with the utility work. 

4. The med school expansion is having a study done to see it's feasible which it probably will be and be open likely at the start of the next decade or sooner. That would bring the Nursing program up north and basically open up the area between Princeton and Harvard to being re-developed into P3 projects or else.

5. The new Flight Ops building out at the airport is coming together. 

And UND is going through the campus master plan process again, with a final report due out early next year. We'll have to see what other plans are in store for the campus. 


It will be interesting to see what NDSU decides with after making the jump to FBS. I doubt being in the Mountain West is going to fix their enrollment issue and they will be spending money there as they won't see anything from the current media rights deal for the Mountain West.

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