NORTH DAKOTA @ badgers - SATURDAY Gameday

[Wildfan]

5 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

give me a rule...I'm waiting.....

From USA Hockey Rule Book: 

(a) A minor or major penalty shall be assessed under this rule for any of the actions described above.

(Note) However, no penalty shall be assessed under this rule if, in the opinion of the Referee, the player was clearly hook-checking or poke-checking the puck for the purpose of gaining possession.

 

You can argue the fact about purpose of gaining possssion, but at that point it then changes to where the player no longer had possession and control when the penalty occured, that can be argued to be a 2min penalty, but in USA Hockey that is not a penalty shot. Now in NCAA i'm sure there is similar wording somewhere, but it isn't right under tripping like it is on the USA Hockey rulebook site.

[yzerman19]

So, we go 2-1-1 vs Pig10 hockey vs two of their best...that bodes well for PWR

[bcblues]

I still think that we don't play well on wide ice.

[SiouxFanatic]

1 minute ago, UNDMOORHEAD said:

A win and a tie on the road is always a good thing. Still haven't lost a game when scoring two or more goals. 

Yep. Can live with it. Especially playing in Madison.  Bucky is much improved.

[Oxbow6]

1 minute ago, Wilbur said:

Can somebody tell the color guy Wisconsin didn't win?

Cut him some slack.......... he's probably on this 11th Blatz!

[Oxbow6]

2 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

So, we go 2-1-1 vs Pig10 hockey vs two of their best...that bodes well for PWR

Exactly my thoughts

[yzerman19]

judgment is the driver of the calls both ways...I get paid for judgment...lots...well more than GFHockey...call it consistent.  Have good judgment.

 

For the record, I have 2 degrees from Minnesota.  It is not green glasses.

[Wildfan]

2 minutes ago, Wildfan said:

From USA Hockey Rule Book: 

(a) A minor or major penalty shall be assessed under this rule for any of the actions described above.

(Note) However, no penalty shall be assessed under this rule if, in the opinion of the Referee, the player was clearly hook-checking or poke-checking the puck for the purpose of gaining possession.

 

You can argue the fact about purpose of gaining possssion, but at that point it then changes to where the player no longer had possession and control when the penalty occured, that can be argued to be a 2min penalty, but in USA Hockey that is not a penalty shot. Now in NCAA i'm sure there is similar wording somewhere, but it isn't right under tripping like it is on the USA Hockey rulebook site.

I want a penalty shot to be called there, and think that they should've keep the UW one as just a 2min instead of the penalty shot that they awarded after convening; however, the rules book favor UW in these situations.

[yzerman19]

3 minutes ago, Wildfan said:

From USA Hockey Rule Book: 

(a) A minor or major penalty shall be assessed under this rule for any of the actions described above.

(Note) However, no penalty shall be assessed under this rule if, in the opinion of the Referee, the player was clearly hook-checking or poke-checking the puck for the purpose of gaining possession.

 

You can argue the fact about purpose of gaining possssion, but at that point it then changes to where the player no longer had possession and control when the penalty occured, that can be argued to be a 2min penalty, but in USA Hockey that is not a penalty shot. Now in NCAA i'm sure there is similar wording somewhere, but it isn't right under tripping like it is on the USA Hockey rulebook site.

doesn't tell it.  doesn't show difference between the two

[cberkas]

4 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

Hey, they were pretty decent announcers. Very fair and very complimentary of UND.

Better then Clymer.

Brandt, Hankenson, and Barrish are three of the best outside of Starman

[Oxbow6]

Just now, Wildfan said:

I want a penalty shot to be called there, and think that they should've keep the UW one as just a 2min instead of the penalty shot that they awarded after convening; however, the officials favor UW in these situations.

FYP........

[UNDMOORHEAD]

Just now, yzerman19 said:

judgment is the driver of the calls both ways...I get paid for judgment...lots...well more than GFHockey...call it consistent.  Have good judgment.

 

For the record, I have 2 degrees from Minnesota.  It is not green glasses.

I followed this board for years without ever posting. I knew their was something off about you, now I know what it is. 

[yzerman19]

Just now, UNDMOORHEAD said:

I followed this board for years without ever posting. I knew their was something off about you, now I know what it is. 

my Gopher degrees

[Wildfan]

Just now, yzerman19 said:

doesn't tell it.  doesn't show difference between the two

The NCAA rulebook does say that for a penalty shot to be called the player must be in possession and control of the puck WHEN fouled. Unfortunately they knocked the puck away before taking his feet out. I think same thing can be argued on first goal, but it appeared he wrapped him up before touching the puck. Lot easier to watch both puck and infraction when they both happen on the ice, instead of one low and one high.

[burd]

Just now, yzerman19 said:

judgment is the driver of the calls both ways...I get paid for judgment...lots...well more than GFHockey...call it consistent.  Have good judgment.

 

For the record, I have 2 degrees from Minnesota.  It is not green glasses.

Dang, Yzer.   You about had us sold on you having good judgment, then you admit to two degrees from UMinn??  You were so close . . .

[yzerman19]

Just now, Wildfan said:

The NCAA rulebook does say that for a penalty shot to be called the player must be in possession and control of the puck WHEN fouled. Unfortunately they knocked the puck away before taking his feet out. I think same thing can be argued on first goal, but it appeared he wrapped him up before touching the puck. Lot easier to watch both puck and infraction when they both happen on the ice, instead of one low and one high.

fair...first reasonable explanation I can consider

[yzerman19]

Just now, burd said:

Dang, Yzer.   You about had us sold on you having good judgment, then you admit to two degrees from UMinn??  You were so close . . .

[SiouxBoys]

First one was called correctly for a penalty shot, second one was a good no call and a great play by the d-man

[Wildfan]

Just now, SiouxBoys said:

First one was called correctly for a penalty shot, second one was a good no call and a great play by the d-man

You can argue that it should've been atleast a 2min though as he still took his feet out. However, by rule I agree no Penalty shot, which is disappointing. 

[yzerman19]

4 minutes ago, Wildfan said:

I want a penalty shot to be called there, and think that they should've keep the UW one as just a 2min instead of the penalty shot that they awarded after convening; however, the rules book favor UW in these situations.

bottom line- you call it for Bucky, you gotta call it for us.  The inconsistency makes it worse.  I can live with the call, if it goes both ways

[Oxbow6]

1 minute ago, SiouxBoys said:

First one was called correctly for a penalty shot, second one was a good no call and a great play by the d-man

We'll let you win tonight...........

[Wildfan]

1 minute ago, yzerman19 said:

fair...first reasonable explanation I can consider

It is small wording that make a big difference sometimes. Read the USA Rulebook casebook, that isn't consistently black and white, alot of gray.

[yzerman19]

Siouxboys appears to be a bit of a Troll.  Poking the bear....

let it go, son.  let it go.

[SiouxBoys]

Just now, yzerman19 said:

bottom line- you call it for Bucky, you gotta call it for us.  The inconsistency makes it worse.  I can live with the call, if it goes both ways

I agree that inconsistency is a huge problem in officiating, but those plays weren't the same.

[Wilbur]

Thoughts:

-The linesmen were terrible.....I hope that's the last time I ever post that.  

-Great weekend for your NCHC rookie of the week and goaltender of the week Peter Thome.

-Nick Jones tremendous again.  I think he's my favorite player.  Boy does he battle.  

-Undefeated weekend in Madison, check please.

-Finally, thank God Wisconsin plays the game it was meant to be played.  All those crap years of them trapping.  Now I'm actually happy they are on the schedule.