UNDBIZ Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, ibleedgreen said: How about this committee that was formed to help the hiring process? There is a committee, correct? So if they end up hiring Mannasau I imagine they will refund the University. SMH.... So if Mannausau is the best candidate, we shouldn't promote him to AD anyway because we already spent money on a committee and a search firm? Now, I don't believe Mannausau to be the best candidate at this point, but I've got to disagree with your reasoning and absolute statements regarding internal hires/promotions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, gfhockey said: You guys brought it up and I finished it. End of discussion. 1%er! or Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 39 minutes ago, ibleedgreen said: How about this committee that was formed to help the hiring process? There is a committee, correct? So if they end up hiring Mannasau I imagine they will refund the University. SMH.... To which "SMH" do you refer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 hours ago, gfhockey said: I’ve sgned more checks with more zeros then u have in your 401k So you're some-rich-somebody's accountant. < shrug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 So has a presser been set for Thursday morning? So sense in Having Chaves fly back to EWU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Ewu fan board pissed they may be losing chaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, gfhockey said: Ewu fan board pissed they may be losing chaves. I have a dime for them. Can someone float them the other fifteen cents? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedgreen Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: So if Mannausau is the best candidate, we shouldn't promote him to AD anyway because we already spent money on a committee and a search firm? Now, I don't believe Mannausau to be the best candidate at this point, but I've got to disagree with your reasoning and absolute statements regarding internal hires/promotions. If he is the best candidate that really doesn't say much for the candidates who applied. UND is small time and should just move down to DII if they hire someone with absolutely no experience whatsoever! And the fact that you are arguing this makes me believe that people like you are the reason why UND DI transition has gone so poorly. We need someone with new visions....not just visions of what they know from their time at UND. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, ibleedgreen said: If he is the best candidate that really doesn't say much for the candidates who applied. UND is small time and should just move down to DII if they hire someone with absolutely no experience whatsoever! And the fact that you are arguing this makes me believe that people like you are the reason why UND DI transition has gone so poorly. We need someone with new visions....not just visions of what they know from their time at UND. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedgreen Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, UNDvince97-01 said: There are two separate entities here. There was a 'search firm' used (Bill Carr) to help find and recruit the best pool of candidates possible for the 'committee' to choose from. The 'search firm' had absolutely nothing to do with selecting the finalists. The 'committee' chose the 4 finalists. So we can blame the firm for serving the committee's plate with a bunch of crap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedgreen Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said: Dang girl! Yes I did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, ibleedgreen said: So we can blame the firm for serving the committee's plate with a bunch of crap? Sure. You do whatever you want bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jdub27 Posted January 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, ibleedgreen said: So we can blame the firm for serving the committee's plate with a bunch of crap? Who exactly did you expect to apply? Two senior associate/deputy AD's from schools that are higher up in the athletic hierarchy than UND, a sitting AD at a peer school plus the top internal candidate. Seems like a pretty logical group of finalists to me. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, ibleedgreen said: If he is the best candidate that really doesn't say much for the candidates who applied. UND is small time and should just move down to DII if they hire someone with absolutely no experience whatsoever! Did you read the second sentence? Quote And the fact that you are arguing this makes me believe that people like you are the reason why UND DI transition has gone so poorly. We need someone with new visions....not just visions of what they know from their time at UND. Perhaps we should be targeting another raspy voiced white-hair from New Mexico or California then. I'm not arguing in favor of Mannausau, I'm arguing against your ridiculous assertion that all internal hires/promotions would be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedgreen Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, UNDvince97-01 said: Sure. You do whatever you want bud. So who do you think is going to win the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, ibleedgreen said: So who do you think is going to win the job? Doesn't matter. Everybody is crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedgreen Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, UNDBIZ said: Did you read the second sentence? Perhaps we should be targeting another raspy voiced white-hair from New Mexico or California then. I'm not arguing in favor of Mannausau, I'm arguing against your ridiculous assertion that all internal hires/promotions would be bad. Thanks for clearing that up but as I stated earlier. This isn't a posting opened up due to a head coach leaving and his assistant trying to fill his shoes. Otherwise I would agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UNDvince97-01 Posted January 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, ibleedgreen said: So who do you think is going to win the job? I dont know because I'm not there in the forums and havent seen them in person or heard their visions. I also don't know what Kennedy wants in an Athletic Director. Two huge variables. If you are in GF, maybe go to Mannausau's public forum today and listen to his vision and plan. THEN come back and tell us he's crap. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedgreen Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, UNDvince97-01 said: I dont know because I'm not there in the forums and havent seen them in person or heard their visions. I also don't know what Kennedy wants in an Athletic Director. Two huge variables. If you are in GF, maybe go to Mannausau's public forum today and listen to his vision and plan. THEN come back and tell us he's crap. Unlike Mannausau I have left Grand Forks so I wont be able to make it but you know what. I'll just sit back and wait to say I told you so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, UNDvince97-01 said: There are two separate entities here. There was a 'search firm' used (Bill Carr) to help find and recruit the best pool of candidates possible for the 'committee' to choose from. The 'search firm' had absolutely nothing to do with selecting the finalists. The 'committee' chose the 4 finalists. Again, someone in a paid or appointed position should have had the brains and gonadal fortitude to review and select who was getting an interview. Now there are too many layers to the onion. Only twice did I select a newbie over the experienced internal candidate. One time was a disaster, disaster and the person lasted a year. The second time was worse. Lots of potential legal issues but they were passed to the next community!!! Go with what you know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, ibleedgreen said: Unlike Mannausau I have left Grand Forks so I wont be able to make it but you know what. I'll just sit back and wait to say I told you so. "I told you so"? Told me what? Thoughtful post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 For those of you unsure of the hierarchy of the NCAA, please note that "G5" senior associates or deputy administrators (#2s and #3s in their departments) are applying for an FCS AD job. I could be completely wrong, but I don't see any deputies or associates from "P5" schools having made our finalists list. As someone noted, we have a couple associate/deputy types from "G5" schools, but none from P5 schools. (Where's Morton from MSU? Purpur from Stanford?) That tells me there is a pecking order; or, put another way: - 'tis better to be #2 or #3 (or worse?) at a P5 than to be the AD at an FCS, or, - being AD at FCS is better than being #2 or #3 at a G5. "P5" -- ACC, Big Ten, SEC, Big XII, PAC 12 "G5" -- MAC, C-USA, Mountain West, SBC, WAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedgreen Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, UNDvince97-01 said: "I told you so"? Told me what? Thoughtful post. "I told you so" when Mannausau is hired and moves UND closer to DII. Hope you enjoy the losing records in every sport except hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, ibleedgreen said: "I told you so" when Mannausau is hired and moves UND closer to DII. Hope you enjoy the losing records in every sport except hockey. Will you elaborate on this some more? I would like to know why you think he would move us closer to D11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, UNDColorado said: Will you elaborate on this some more? I would like to know why you think he would move us closer to D11? This should be good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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