siouxweet Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 22 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: Well, now what? Should be an easy decision come Monday right? As dumb as this sounds WH still has a better chance of winning a NC than any other program up for discussion of being cut. Change the leadership of the program and you will see better results. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 47 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: Well, now what? Should be an easy decision come Monday right? If a decision is made on Monday, that would indicate that the program will continue. If it is not, that would suggest that WH is on the chopping block and it just hasn't been announced yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just to clarify for everyone, I'm talking about Idalski not the program itself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: Just to clarify for everyone, I'm talking about Idalski not the program itself Yes, but it will be interesting to see what happens if they don't make a decision on Idalski on Monday, given that his contract runs out this year. That would suggest they are waiting to see if the program is cut before they decide to bring him back or hire someone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiSioux Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Oddly enough, one of the UND players got a game DQ and will miss the first game of next season.... If there is a next season (hope so) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Time to leave Idalski In Minneapolis and call Commodore to take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 #packyoursheet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Has Commodore ever coached at any level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Has Commodore ever coached at any level? I don't know, and most likely wouldn't want the job. But he's a NCAA champ and a Stanley Cup champ so I'm sure he would do better then Idalski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel_Sioux Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Ok. I'm all for a new coach. But who replaces him? The twins are focusing on the Olympic and Commodore probably isn't/has no experience and Shannon Miller is shrouded with controversy. Is there an assistant we can snipe from Minnesota or Wisconsin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Rebel_Sioux said: Ok. I'm all for a new coach. But who replaces him? The twins are focusing on the Olympic and Commodore probably isn't/has no experience and Shannon Miller is shrouded with controversy. Is there an assistant we can snipe from Minnesota or Wisconsin? No on the twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Fabien? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Whole new staff, time for new blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Rebel_Sioux said: Ok. I'm all for a new coach. But who replaces him? The twins are focusing on the Olympic and Commodore probably isn't/has no experience and Shannon Miller is shrouded with controversy. Is there an assistant we can snipe from Minnesota or Wisconsin? Yeah, would think you would want someone that has knowledge and ties to the recruiting circles in women's hockey. Need someone who can exhibit some passion for getting the program to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 12 hours ago, cberkas said: I don't know, and most likely wouldn't want the job. But he's a NCAA champ and a Stanley Cup champ so I'm sure he would do better then Idalski. A blind man could do better than Idalski. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb1 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I like Idalski, but perhaps it would be good to bring in some new blood. You just get the feeling that we are stagnant right now with the program. I truly believe the job is one of the Lamoureux twins when they are ready. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Can Steve Johnson coach women? Now, before you jump all over me, yes, Steve Johnson (as in former Lincoln Stars coach, Luke's dad) can coach. I believe he's back living in Grand Forks. But can he coach women? And yes, coaching women is very different than coaching men. I don't mean skills, I mean connecting to them and understanding communications and motivation. And before you slay me for that, I'm looking at a women's national championship team coach who is telling me this. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 51 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Can Steve Johnson coach women? Now, before you jump all over me, yes, Steve Johnson (as in former Lincoln Stars coach, Luke's dad) can coach. I believe he's back living in Grand Forks. But can he coach women? And yes, coaching women is very different than coaching men. I don't mean skills, I mean connecting to them and understanding communications and motivation. And before you slay me for that, I'm looking at a women's national championship team coach who is telling me this. I think you are referring to Mark Johnson? Who coached the Badger women's team for awhile? I remember reading comments he made about how different it is to coach men vs. women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I mean Steve; and the coach I'm looking at isn't a hockey coach but they know it's different. If Mark says it too, more support for my point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just as with Shantell Rivard, this team has been taken as far as it can by this coach. As others have said, Monday will be very telling in many ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Here are the comments I was thinking of: http://host.madison.com/sports/olympics/u-s-women-s-hockey-mark-johnson-a-coach-who/article_ab0ffe42-191e-11df-ac8d-001cc4c002e0.html Quote Johnson, who coached males at the high school (Madison Memorial and Verona), college (UW men) and minor-league pro (Madison Monsters) levels between 1993 and '02, prepared for his new role by reading the best-seller "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" to better understand the transition. He also consulted with coaches who went before him on this path, including Ben Smith, who went from running the men's program at Northeastern to coaching Team USA to the first Olympic gold medal in women's hockey in 1998. Quote Johnson likes to tell the story about how one of his earliest declarations turned to rubble. "There's no crying in hockey," he said, only to see tears being shed soon thereafter. A veteran of 11 seasons in the NHL, where coaches speak and players respond, Johnson soon found his new charges prefer explanations over declarations. "Women like to know why," (UW Assistant Coach) DeKeyser said, referring to everything from drills to the subtle disparities in the men's and women's hockey budgets at UW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Mark Johnson, was from what Wisconsin fans were saying, wanted to coach the men's team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 3 hours ago, cberkas said: Mark Johnson, was from what Wisconsin fans were saying, wanted to coach the men's team. I don't blame him. Why nobody will ever give him a chance at a MH coaching job (with its bigger salary and national profile) is puzzling. The man obviously can coach and get results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said: I don't blame him. Why nobody will ever give him a chance at a MH coaching job (with its bigger salary and national profile) is puzzling. The man obviously can coach and get results. He may be a good women's coach, but could be a terrible men's coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, cberkas said: He may be a good women's coach, but could be a terrible men's coach. Didn't someone around here just point out that coaching women is not the same as coaching men? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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