The Sicatoka Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 3:04 PM, 77iceman said: Expand Constructive criticism: You turn a shaky at best "D" almost into a "P" with what you've done. I'd rather see that whole lower right pointy feature on the "N" erased. 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 6:30 PM, The Sicatoka said: Constructive criticism: You turn a shaky at best "D" almost into a "P" with what you've done. I'd rather see that whole lower right pointy feature on the "N" erased. Expand Or increase the size of the d..... 2 Quote
gundy1124 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 2:27 AM, UND-FB-FAN said: Agree with all of this. The current logo isn't horrible if it's considered under the context of a secondary logo. But as a primary logo, there certainly are some deficiencies. I'll embrace it, but I sure would like to see some color alternatives for this (it's going to be on a kelly green helmet, so revealed color scheme won't work) and, eventually, a primary logo developed that features just the hawk with more detail. Expand Never played a down for a logo. In the 90's they forced the geometric crap upon us, barely put a thought to it. The new logo will be cool with me when we host a playoff game in the Alerus. 3 Quote
UNDvince97-01 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 6:27 PM, UND-1 said: I am torn on the whole "forward facing hawk on one side, rear facing on other" thing. Would need to see it on the helmet first. Expand Like others have said already, put the number on the other side of the helmet opposite of the ND Hawk 4 Quote
siouxfan512 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Does anyone know what the intentions are for putting the logo onto green helmets? Outlining the green ND? Changing the color of the ND for the green helmets? Obviously green ND and a green helmet won't work. 1 Quote
77iceman Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 6:30 PM, The Sicatoka said: Constructive criticism: You turn a shaky at best "D" almost into a "P" with what you've done. I'd rather see that whole lower right pointy feature on the "N" erased. Expand Oh my god...what have i done!!! Quote
siouxfan512 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 6:30 PM, The Sicatoka said: Constructive criticism: You turn a shaky at best "D" almost into a "P" with what you've done. I'd rather see that whole lower right pointy feature on the "N" erased. Expand agreed, it really does end up looking like a P Quote
siouxfan512 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 I have to admit, I would really start getting on board with the new name if we had something better. I really like the concept art in the below link, or at least some variation of it. https://www.behance.net/gallery/34630947/University-of-North-Dakota-Fighting-Hawks-Concept 1 Quote
siouxfan512 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 8:14 PM, siouxfan512 said: I have to admit, I would really start getting on board with the new name if we had something better. I really like the concept art in the below link, or at least some variation of it. https://www.behance.net/gallery/34630947/University-of-North-Dakota-Fighting-Hawks-Concept Expand You could also easily tie in a mascot based on this logo design. 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Native American headdress = No dice Also just an ugly logo. Judging by the eye, this bird likes to party with hard drugs. The ham-handed attempt to incorporate an outline of the state also looks pretty terrible. The shuttlecock logo (getting rid of the button that made the feathers appear native) is much better than this one, IMO. 2 Quote
dmksioux Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 8:14 PM, siouxfan512 said: You could also easily tie in a mascot based on this logo design. Expand Great looking logo, but highly doubtful the NCAA would be ok with the "headress" for feathers.. Quote
77iceman Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 8:07 PM, siouxfan512 said: agreed, it really does end up looking like a P Expand So hold your thumb over that part . . . my point was that with a black outline and some black accents for added depth, it starts to make more sense as a sports logo instead of a "bank logo". Not that it matters. 2 Quote
siouxfan512 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 8:24 PM, UNDBIZ said: Native American headdress = No dice Also just an ugly logo. Judging by the eye, this bird likes to party with hard drugs. The ham-handed attempt to incorporate an outline of the state also looks pretty terrible. The shuttlecock logo (getting rid of the button that made the feathers appear native) is much better than this one, IMO. Expand I don't buy the headdress business. They are feathers ... birds have feathers. It is incorporating school history into a new name and logo. Regardless, if you think it is an ugly logo, that is an argument that I can completely understand. It is kind of how I feel about the new logo. I think it would be fine as a secondary or alternative logo, but I would prefer something similar to the concept art. Not necessarily that exact one, but some variation of that. I honestly didn't see the state outline incorporation, and I agree, this logo could get rid of that part. If UND is going to go all in with the "Fighting Hawks, they could definitely implement a mascot, but I think you need to implement a strong logo from which the mascot can be based. I don't see any scenario where the current logo could be developed into a mascot. The concept are would be much better IF the school wants to move towards having a mascot. Quote
siouxfan512 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 8:32 PM, 77iceman said: So hold your thumb over that part . . . my point was that with a black outline and some black accents for added depth, it starts to make more sense as a sports logo instead of a "bank logo". Not that it matters. Expand Totally get your point, and completely agree. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 8:47 PM, siouxfan512 said: I don't buy the headdress business. They are feathers ... birds have feathers. It is incorporating school history into a new name and logo. Regardless, if you think it is an ugly logo, that is an argument that I can completely understand. It is kind of how I feel about the new logo. I think it would be fine as a secondary or alternative logo, but I would prefer something similar to the concept art. Not necessarily that exact one, but some variation of that. I honestly didn't see the state outline incorporation, and I agree, this logo could get rid of that part. If UND is going to go all in with the "Fighting Hawks, they could definitely implement a mascot, but I think you need to implement a strong logo from which the mascot can be based. I don't see any scenario where the current logo could be developed into a mascot. The concept are would be much better IF the school wants to move towards having a mascot. Expand No bird had feathers that come from one spot at different angles like that. It's clearly a head dress. Feather are on birds but that is a bird with at the very least some type of feather ear ring. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 8:32 PM, 77iceman said: So hold your thumb over that part . . . my point was that with a black outline and some black accents for added depth, it starts to make more sense as a sports logo instead of a "bank logo". Not that it matters. Expand You're brutally simple hawk logo was one of my favorite mock ups. Quote
77iceman Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 9:08 PM, geaux_sioux said: You're brutally simple hawk logo was one of my favorite mock ups. Expand mine, too 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 I'd say it fails due to "head dress" but it fails far worse as "cartoonish". Quote
77iceman Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 10:57 PM, The Sicatoka said: I'd say it fails due to "head dress" but it fails far worse as "cartoonish". Expand What does? oh...the hawk with head dress a couple of posts up. Got it. Quote
77iceman Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 You know . . . i wouldn't mind seeing them go all "Pittsburgh Steelers" with this by just having the new Hawk logo on just one side (facing forward). I always thought that, even though that logo itself isn't anything too exciting, just having it on one side was always kinda cool. 1 Quote
ArchyAlum11 Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 8:24 PM, UNDBIZ said: Native American headdress = No dice Also just an ugly logo. Judging by the eye, this bird likes to party with hard drugs. The ham-handed attempt to incorporate an outline of the state also looks pretty terrible. The shuttlecock logo (getting rid of the button that made the feathers appear native) is much better than this one, IMO. Expand Better than the post office logo. 2 1 Quote
UNDfaninMICH Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 6:56 PM, geaux_sioux said: Or increase the size of the d..... Expand That's what she said? Quote
ArchyAlum11 Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 On 6/24/2016 at 3:15 AM, The Sicatoka said: What's a "parcle"? Fail. Expand DAMN YOU DYSLEXIA!! Quote
Blackheart Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 On 6/24/2016 at 3:15 AM, The Sicatoka said: What's a "parcle"? Fail. Expand Actually parcle works just fine with this logo. Quote
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