The Sicatoka Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) 2. Allows the University to organically develop another name in the future without having to change names. With this, aren't you admitting that Nodaks isn't that good and will (need to?) be replaced later. History says that's probable. Edited November 3, 2015 by The Sicatoka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fight on sioux Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I think some of you have lost your sense of reasoning just to push your opinions...And I'm not talking about "yababy8." Trying to compare NoDaks to Kansas Kans,Oklahoma Okla's??? Really... wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Would USD become the "Sodaks"? An abandoned postal code is an abandoned postal code. Edited November 3, 2015 by The Sicatoka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 OK so UNDBIZ noticed a void in the separate name threads- good eye UNDBIZ. Now that we have all established why Fighting Hawks is inadequate and Roughriders won't work, Here is why you should vote NODAKS: Last Saturday I was at the CC game. Sitting behind me a Tiger fan tapped me on the shoulder during a time out. I turned around to see an older woman(guessing around 70). She asked me if I had ever heard of a game from way back in Madison Wisconsin where there was a huge bench clearing brawl started because a Wisconsin player went into the North Dakota bench. Of course I said yes I had heard of it and added that it was referred to in legendary fashion as the water bottle incident. Surprised at the fact that I knew of what she was describing she exclaimed, "I was there". We went o to chat of and on for the rest of the game. Turned out she graduated from 'UW' as she endearingly referred to Wisconsin. She was telling me that Wisconsin had two rivals; North Dakota and Minnesota. She unequivocally declared that North Dakota was really the main rival because of how we played the game compared to Minnesota. She kept saying "Nodak" this and "Nodak" that. It was all with great respect for the competition level and the rivalry. Not a derogatory tone in any of it. Just fond memories of great rivalry games. I did not share with her the name issue or the last three options for a new nickname at all. She simply referred to us as Nodak and she said it respectfully.My point here is that at that time, chatting with the wise old lady, I realized something, Nodak is ALREADY our name. If you haven't seen the pictures of our sports jerseys with Nodak on them from the 40-50 years ago look it up. So picking Nodaks is like picking no change needed-thank you! I read Goon's blog post today where he says- Hawks is the, "best choice of three unattractive/bad choices." That is saying a lot Goon. You're picking a bad choice. That is not good. Most people agree with you BTW. The majority of people don't like any of the three. Well consider this then:If we choose Nodaks as our "official" nickname does it not, given its nature, lend itself to integrating another name at some future time when it can happen more naturally(the way nicknames are supposed to come about, organically instead of by force). You may be wondering what I mean so I will use an example:The University of Missouri their official nickname is the Tigers(named after a group of pre-civil war militias called the "Fighting Tigers", ironically. Now as most of us know the school is also referred to as "Mizzou" which I bet upon hearing for the first time one would think, "what a stupid, hick nickname". It's not unlike "Nodaks" if you think about it. It's a shortening of a name to a nickname. Happens all the time(right Cags, Pooly?) and is very logical and fitting, especially when it occurs organically like Nodaks did decades ago. But is Mizzou not a cool name as part of the mix of Missouri Tigers? There is no reason Nodaks wouldn't be the same animal, serve the same purpose for us..So the beauty of going with Nodaks can be summarized as follows:1. Allows the University to stay with tradition while ending the NCAA assault.2. Allows the University to organically develop another name in the future without having to change names. (oh and yes before any of you radicals get all bent out of whack saying I'm a Sioux hold out and that this could be the Sioux name 'some day. Whatever! Ether the name will be the Sioux or not either way it will be fitting to call us the Nodaks.(just like Mizzou) But more importantly it means that we can have time and a correct 'natural' process to get another nickname that the MAJORITY of people don't dislike.I thought I was supposed to be offended by Nodak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yababy8 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) With this, aren't you admitting that Nodaks isn't that good and will (need to?) be replaced later. History says that's probable.Added tto not replaced by. Hence the comparison to Mizzou or Ole Miss.I'm looking to get through this "adopt a new name" B.S. process as painlessly as possible. Most people agree that our choices suck. Nodaks doesn't suck as a secondary nickname as the schools mentioned use two names and as we have used Nodaks in the past.We can add another name later and do it the right way. If for nothing else to do it without the help of the Kelley admin. Edited November 3, 2015 by yababy8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Added tto not replaced by. Hence the comparison to Mizzou or Ole Miss.I'm looking to get through this "adopt a new name" B.S. process as painlessly as possible. Most people agree that our choices suck. Nodaks doesn't suck as a secondary nickname as the schools mentioned use two names and as we have used Nodaks in the past.We can add another name later and do it the right way. If for nothing else to do it without the help of the Kelley admin. ... many of the Roughrider supporters are voting for something rather than against something. That speaks volumes. Lets face it, we were never going to get a consensus no matter which nickname we would pick...Roughriders has the potential once people get over their biases to other names. tnt has a valid point. Roughriders has been my first choice through this whole process. I don't think I'm the only one. Unlike Nodak supporters who were Fighting Sioux (despite potential sanctions) forever, than only North Dakota, and now Nodak. And on top of that, many Nodak supporters want it only temporarily, so that yet another name can be selected. That sounds like a great plan, let's let this hang over UND's head for another 10 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 tnt has a valid point. Roughriders has been my first choice through this whole process. I don't think I'm the only one. Unlike Nodak supporters who were Fighting Sioux (despite potential sanctions) forever, than only North Dakota, and now Nodak. And on top of that, many Nodak supporters want it only temporarily, so that yet another name can be selected. That sounds like a great plan, let's let this hang over UND's head for another 10 years. I voted for Nodak a couple weeks ago. I was a Fighting Sioux supporter, but not a Fighting Sioux at all costs supporter.I was never a only "North Dakota" supporter.I do not want Nodaks only temporarily, only so that another name can be selected. I believe some who have stated this have said another, better, nickname will happen as opposed to be selected. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I voted for Nodak a couple weeks ago. I was a Fighting Sioux supporter, but not a Fighting Sioux at all costs supporter.I was never a only "North Dakota" supporter.I do not want Nodaks only temporarily, only so that another name can be selected. I was a Fighting Sioux supporter, but not a Fighting Sioux at all costs supporter.I was never a only "North Dakota" supporter. (But I am getting there.)I do not want Nodaks only temporarily, only so that another name can be selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Would USD become the "Sodaks"? An abandoned postal code is an abandoned postal code. by your logic, a condom's a condom.#RollRubbers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 #UnRollRubbers!FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Added tto not replaced by. Hence the comparison to Mizzou or Ole Miss.I'm looking to get through this "adopt a new name" B.S. process as painlessly as possible. Most people agree that our choices suck. Nodaks doesn't suck as a secondary nickname as the schools mentioned use two names and as we have used Nodaks in the past.We can add another name later and do it the right way. If for nothing else to do it without the help of the Kelley admin. What's the "right way"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best0186 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I posted this in another nickname thread as well:While I am not a big fan of any of the "top" 3 nicknames, I think in the end (while it may take a while) I will be able to get behind one of them.My curiosity in forum members opinions has kept me coming back to keep reading. However, the highly opinionated lobbyists with closed minded attitudes about logo possibilities has led me to to make the decision to check out of the "Nickname" portion of SiouxSports until this process is complete. There doesn't seem to be any original thoughts or critical thinking going on. Just propaganda.A number of years ago, Minnesota chose "Wild" as a team name. Just imagining about how their process might of went, I can only guess what fans were saying. "What the heck is a wild?" Guess what, a talented graphic artist started laying out ideas. I bet a few were rejected, but who have ever thought that "Wild" could be depicted by an animal head with trees, sunset, north star as an eye, and river for its mouth. In my opinion, one of the best logos out there. They came up with something abstract and put an image to it.While I am not truly excited about any of the remaining three names, but to say that they have no potential for logo ideas is very short sighted. I believe there are a number of possibilities for any one of these ideas. In reality, if somehow Nodaks was chosen. I believe that a graphic artist could probably come up with some good ideas. A logo wouldn't have to be a hick, or farmer or anything like that. I work with an excellent graphic artist and she comes up with things for work that I could never even imagine. Full disclosure, my pick is Nodaks, followed by Roughriders, and lastly Fighting Hawks. However, I believe there is more graphic potential for Fighting Hawks than Roughriders.I will still be in sports forums, but these ones involving the nickname have become stale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Would USD become the "Sodaks"? An abandoned postal code is an abandoned postal code. Well, if they don't maintain their rights by using the postal code, then it's available for someone to use...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxfan69 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 If calling USD the SoDaks sounds stupid, and it does, then calling UND NoDaks sounds stupid, and it does. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Would USD become the "Sodaks"? An abandoned postal code is an abandoned postal code. Do they have a Native American nickname/mascot? I'm guessing they would have came up with some better choices. Edited November 4, 2015 by scpa0305 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 If calling USD the SoDaks sounds stupid, and it does, then calling UND NoDaks sounds stupid, and it does.How about the Neil So-dak-as? Equally as stupid as Sodak/Nodak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Utah Utes?Utes are a tribe that gave the University of Utah permission to use their name for their sports programs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 82SiouxGuy Posted November 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2015 Do they have a Native American nickname/mascot? I'm guessing they would have came up with some better choices.A brand new professional hockey franchise came up with Wild. They could have picked anything. Another picked Blue Jackets, a vague reference to fighting for the North in the Civil War (their second choice was Justice). Yet another picked Lightning. Look at the names in the NBA (Sun, Heat, Magic, Thunder, Pelicans, Wizards, Hornets, Spurs). And all of the schools with Native American names that changed to some form of Hawk. There is no guarantee that any nickname process would come up with a better list than the one that UND came up with. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yababy8 Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 is Nodaks or Sodaks any different than Mizzou? I bet people would throw a fit if Mizzou was not in existence at this point and it was proposed in a similar process.The point is unique names sound weird at first. Bland generic names sound acceptable at the onset but become lame and uninteresting quickly.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Herd Posted November 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2015 Sorry, but the North Dakota . . . Nodaks? What is a Nodak?You are equating ND Nodaks to Missouri Mizzous? No, Missouri is the Tigers.Calling ND the Nodaks would be like calling NDSU the Staters, it would be really dumb. What are people thinking? The only reason to call yourselves the Nodaks would be so you could continue to call yourselves the the Sioux. Nodaks, a really bad idea. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodacker Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Sorry, but the North Dakota . . . Nodaks? What is a Nodak?You are equating ND Nodaks to Missouri Mizzous? No, Missouri is the Tigers.Calling ND the Nodaks would be like calling NDSU the Staters, it would be really dumb. What are people thinking? The only reason to call yourselves the Nodaks would be so you could continue to call yourselves the the Sioux. Nodaks, a really bad idea.A Nodak is a person ffrom North Dakota. Glad I could clear that up for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The only reason to call yourselves the Nodaks would be so you could continue to call yourselves the the Sioux.No, the biggest reason would be to not have to call ourselves "Fighting Hawks" or "Roughriders." 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Or NoDaks, for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 No, the biggest reason would be to not have to call ourselves "Fighting Hawks" or "Roughriders." why dont you vote for something instead of against something? It feels a lot more satisfying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Hey, instead of boring old Nodaks, how about spicing things up a bit? Add a couple more letters and Nodaks becomes NORDAKOTS! (nor-da-kots). It sure as hell is better than Fighting Hawks. Edited November 4, 2015 by Blackheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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