Recruiting advantage.

[jdub27]

Someone wrote that and used the word "exclusively" purposefully. 

 

I mean any chance you get to be on the same side of a questionable issue as Dickinson State is, you definitely have to take.

[UND-1]

Someone wrote that and used the word "exclusively" purposefully. 

 

I believe that would be Mr. Wrigley, himself.  

[The Sicatoka]

I believe that would be Mr. Wrigley, himself.  

 

Lt. Gov. Wrigley has never served in the state legislature so I don't believe that.

 

This law started out as HB1204 (per Port's blog).

 

The authors of that bill were: 

Representatives Nathe, Kreun, Schatz, Streyle, Sukut, Thoreson, Williams

Senators Flakoll, Hogue, Lyson, Poolman

 

http://www.legis.nd.gov/assembly/63-2013/documents/13-0306-04000.pdf?20150210082207

[homer]

Lt. Gov. Wrigley has never served in the state legislature so I don't believe that.

This law started out as HB1204 (per Port's blog).

The authors of that bill were:

Representatives Nathe, Kreun, Schatz, Streyle, Sukut, Thoreson, Williams

Senators Flakoll, Hogue, Lyson, Poolman

http://www.legis.nd.gov/assembly/63-2013/documents/13-0306-04000.pdf?20150210082207

Sounds like a good list of names for clarification.

[dlsiouxfan]

In their defense, there isn't really anything for a donor to donate to at NDSU that would do any good in advancing academics.  Saying that, I predict that absolutely nothing will happen.  The fact that Port brought it up makes it even less likely to get any attention as the guy and his blog have zero credibility.  He's a political bomb thrower know for his hatred of higher education and thus has marginalized himself.  UND might as well start doing this same thing.   NDSU plays fast and loose with the rules constantly and suffers zero repercussions. 

[UNDBIZ]

Absolutely against the intent of the program, but with Wrigley the "man-in-waiting" to become the next ND governor, I doubt they allow this to get much attention.

[The Sicatoka]

 

Absolutely against the intent of the program, but with Wrigley the "man-in-waiting" to become the next ND governor, I doubt they allow this to get much attention.

 

 

UND might as well start doing this same thing. 

 

Agree and agree. 

 

Can UND "re-assign" some of the Spirit Campaign donations and claim them against this?

Heck, I bet some of the Spirit Campaign funds were earmarked for academics. 

 

Time for DCZ to get busy ... 

[UND-1]

The problem is that 8 of the 11 schools heard and obided by the rules were when they were explained.  The schools were told that "absolutely NO athletics or brick and mortar for athletics are to be involved in this".  So UND complied, even when they have the IPF going on, along with the same scholarship issues everyone has.  

 

NDSU hadn't used up their pool of money yet so they pushed through those athletic endowments at the very end to try and get more of their money.  UND had already used their pool up with the Med school, Law school, etc. but could have put some athletics in their originally had they known that Wrigley wasn't going to stick to his own rules.

 

As you can see from the article, Deanna Zink even called out Wrigley and he still let them go through.  

[The Sicatoka]

As you can see from the article, Deanna Zink even called out Wrigley and he still let them go through.  

 

Seems Lt. Gov. Wrigley learned "government accounting" well during his time as a Federal prosecutor: Spend all your budget or you won't get as much next year. 

[homer]

Phase 2 of the IPF will do more to further academics than more athletic scholorships.  If what FU, Dickinson and Minot did is OK, UND better get on board and take advantage to the state gov't mismanagement of these funds.

 

Also, how much money will this free up for the addional cost of scholorships. 

[Teeder11]

The problem is that 8 of the 11 schools heard and obided by the rules were when they were explained.  The schools were told that "absolutely NO athletics or brick and mortar for athletics are to be involved in this".  So UND complied, even when they have the IPF going on, along with the same scholarship issues everyone has.  

 

NDSU hadn't used up their pool of money yet so they pushed through those athletic endowments at the very end to try and get more of their money.  UND had already used their pool up with the Med school, Law school, etc. but could have put some athletics in their originally had they known that Wrigley wasn't going to stick to his own rules.

 

As you can see from the article, Deanna Zink even called out Wrigley and he still let them go through.  

 

I seem to recall the new UAS center, AKA Robin Hall, which is going up on the western edge of campus, also used challenge fund matching dollars. I think UND did nice things with its money... it is just interesting to me to see where individual institutions are investing this money.

[UND-1]

Seems Lt. Gov. Wrigley learned "government accounting" well during his time as a Federal prosecutor: Spend all your budget or you won't get as much next year. 

 

The money was going to get spent either way.  What was left over from each school would go back into a new pool and everyone could start applying for the left over money.  

[gfhockey]

Why would faison try and do anything to get ahead?

[The Sicatoka]

I went and read through the information.

 

UND did have the donations ($20 MM) to be able to claim all of the $10 MM allotted to it. 

 

DCZ did the work. Nice. 

[gfhockey]

Link to dcZ qoute?

[The Sicatoka]

Link to dcZ qoute?

 

Here: http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/grants-intended-exclusively-academics-used-athletic-scholarships/

 

Not a direct quote from DCA but minutes from the meeting where she asked about it. 

[jdub27]

The money was going to get spent either way.  What was left over from each school would go back into a new pool and everyone could start applying for the left over money.  

This.  They couldn't secure the proper type of donations and did an end-around at the end otherwise the leftover funds would have been available for other schools to compete for. 

[homer]

This. They couldn't secure the proper type of donations and did an end-around at the end otherwise the leftover funds would have been available for other schools to compete for.

If that's the case, I say this total is not awarded to FU next go around.

Aren't they the same college who complains about funding consistently? When they have the opportunity to get it they spend it on athletic scholarships. Some questions need to be asked

[jdub27]

If that's the case, I say this total is not awarded to FU next go around.

Aren't they the same college who complains about funding consistently? When they have the opportunity to get it they spend it on athletic scholarships. Some questions need to be asked

I think they should have to return the $150K they got in matching funds.  As should Minot State and Dickinson State.  Make them explain to the donors that they don't understand how rules work.

 

Yes.  Yes. And yes.

[gfhockey]

DcZ may get an invitiation to the Gobc in the near future

[bang]

DcZ may get an invitiation to the Gobc in the near future

I'm sure she'll politely decline membership.

[Teeder11]

I'm sure she'll politely decline membership.

 

 

Why would she want to stoop to that level?    DCZ was an insider long before there was even a figment of a mention of anything remotely called a %gobc.  

[Cratter]

Aren't they the same college who complains about funding consistently?

All they ever do is complain about funding but then all they do is spend academic money on scholarships and give tuition away.

[jdub27]

Here: http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/grants-intended-exclusively-academics-used-athletic-scholarships/

 

Not a direct quote from DCA but minutes from the meeting where she asked about it. 

 

Serious question - Is this a legislature issue?  Or whomever was on the Challenge Fund committee (thinking Wrigley in particular)?  Or something that is just going to get swept under the rug per usual?

[The Sicatoka]

I guess it comes down to how hard the Legislature (or the bill/law authors) want to press it. Of course, the Legislature controls reauthorizing funding of this also.