MafiaMan Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Since 2000-2001: Wins: North Dakota 336 Minnesota 324 Losses: North Dakota 166 Minnesota 163 Ties: North Dakota 56 Minnesota 57
fightingsioux4life Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Since 2000-2001: Wins: North Dakota 336 Minnesota 324 Losses: North Dakota 166 Minnesota 163 Ties: North Dakota 56 Minnesota 57 NCAA Titles: North Dakota 0 Minnesota 2
gfhockey Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 if both teams had won no nattys obvisouly id take UND's but this guy likes banners in the rafters....you may not... no one will remember end of season records unless your gophers womens hockey team and you undefeated or one loss every year.
gfhockey Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 or do teams post end of season records in raftoers now days?
MafiaMan Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 NCAA Titles: North Dakota 0 Minnesota 2 Thanks, Captain Obvious. Hence why I wanted to go with the 2003-2004 season. Try this one on for size, fs4l: 19-17-3 17-13-7 18-19-2 16-14-6 Do you pull the plug somewhere in the midst of that four-year stretch?
MafiaMan Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 or do teams post end of season records in raftoers now days? That's pretty rich, coming from a guy who posts his "season records" almost every day on this site.
scpa0305 Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Thanks, Captain Obvious. Hence why I wanted to go with the 2003-2004 season. Try this one on for size, fs4l: 19-17-3 17-13-7 18-19-2 16-14-6 Do you pull the plug somewhere in the midst of that four-year stretch? Actually I remember when there was talk about Lucia not getting his contract renewed....he brought back guenztel, got Potulny to recruit hard and now they are back and everyone has forgot about those years. Those two years where they didn't make the F5 were great.
MafiaMan Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Since 2003-2004: Minnesota 237-134-42 North Dakota 265-127-40
MafiaMan Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Actually I remember when there was talk about Lucia not getting his contract renewed....he brought back guenztel, got Potulny to recruit hard and now they are back and everyone has forgot about those years. Those two years where they didn't make the F5 were great. That's my point. No way Hakstol survives a four-year stretch like that. SiouxSports.com would be in total meltdown by year two. Agree 100% on the Final Five those years - best Final Fives ever.
scpa0305 Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 That's my point. No way Hakstol survives a four-year stretch like that. SiouxSports.com would be in total meltdown by year two. Agree 100% on the Final Five those years - best Final Fives ever. Not a chance....unless he had won back to back natty's the previous two years
Popular Post runaroundsioux Posted February 12, 2014 Popular Post Posted February 12, 2014 Good God, UND could have won a natty for the last 13 years straight and some of you would bitch because we didn't win every regular season game. Unbelievable. 6 1
MafiaMan Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Good God, UND could have won a natty for the last 13 years straight and some of you would bitch because we didn't win every regular season game. Unbelievable. That's not entirely true. I think pretty much everyone here would be happy with 13 straight NCAA titles - but gfhockey would want the hammer put down on Hakstol if North Dakota didn't make the NCAA's in year 14. 3
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Making the tourney every year, winning Broadmoors, and going to numerous Frozen Fours is not "mediocre." Oh crap, I agree with a Gopher fan. I better turn in my Sioux fandom ASAP. It's pretty funny that the Minnesota fan is trying, or so it appears, to inject some logic and keep fans from jumping off the cliff after a split. All in all, this is pretty damn hilarious watching this website blow up like clockwork after every single regular season loss and re-hash the last 10 years and why Hakstol should be fired immediately and replaced with one of the SS.com forum members. 1
gfhockey Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 nah I just don't think its much to ask given the resources and investments we have put in the hockey program to have a natty every ten years. we generally have 1st pick at kids. its haks decision what kids to pick. he needs the picks to gel. who cares about draft picks. hes gotta make adjustments
runaroundsioux Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 That's not entirely true. I think pretty much everyone here would be happy with 13 straight NCAA titles - but gfhockey would want the hammer put down on Hakstol if North Dakota didn't make the NCAA's in year 14. And Smokey would blame it on the Republicans. 1
runaroundsioux Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 is eades our version of guentzel? How many nattys did we win with Eades? How many has MN won with Guentzel?
nd1sufan Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 nah I just don't think its much to ask given the resources and investments we have put in the hockey program to have a natty every ten years. we generally have 1st pick at kids. its haks decision what kids to pick. he needs the picks to gel. who cares about draft picks. hes gotta make adjustments gfhockey is right. With all of the advantages UND hockey has over 95% of the other D1 hockey schools, a ten or more year draught without a national title would be unacceptable. With the facilities, tradition and pick of recruits, draughts like that should not happen.
Popular Post yzerman19 Posted February 12, 2014 Popular Post Posted February 12, 2014 How many nattys did we win with Eades? How many has MN won with Guentzel? Eades won 2 as a player... I think Eades fired up the boys. This thread is funny. I am a realist. Neither a Hak apologist nor a pitchfork and torcher. Hak has not won the big one, despite having awesome talent. We all get that you don't always win when you should, but we haven't been in a drought like this since the 70's. My confidence in Hak has waned, and that is what is more important than stats. I do not have confidence that he is the coach to take us to our next banner. I dont fire people at work based on historical performances, I make those decisions based on confidence in their ability to go forward, some of which is based on the past, but more of it is based on their ability to perform in the evolving environment. This is the first year that I have stopped watching every single game- I used to watch via internet in the old DOT and Parise days too, so it isn't just the TV deal. Hak has failed to win the big one- twice with overwhelming teams. I get that he doesn't have the horses this year, but that is an excuse. Our # of draft picks is a bit of a joke, as we are loaded with late rounders... Would we be a different team with Miller and Matteau? Maybe, but we'll never know. Bottom line: we've been an elite program under Hak, but it is difficult to know his influence on that. We haven't won a title in 14 years, 10 of which are on his watch. I am concerned about the pipeline coming in. I have zero confidence in Hak as a big game coach. He gets paid too much not to win. We have the history and the facilities and the environment to breed champions. We haven't done so in too long. 6
runaroundsioux Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 gfhockey is right. With all of the advantages UND hockey has over 95% of the other D1 hockey schools, a ten or more year draught without a national title would be unacceptable. With the facilities, tradition and pick of recruits, draughts like that should not happen. Thank you, FU troll. Don't you have a sheep shearing class to get to?
as15 Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 gfhockey is right. With all of the advantages UND hockey has over 95% of the other D1 hockey schools, a ten or more year draught without a national title would be unacceptable. With the facilities, tradition and pick of recruits, draughts like that should not happen. I agree a ten or more year draught would be unacceptable, some might get a little skunky by then. 1
fightingsioux4life Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Thanks, Captain Obvious. Hence why I wanted to go with the 2003-2004 season. Try this one on for size, fs4l: 19-17-3 17-13-7 18-19-2 16-14-6 Do you pull the plug somewhere in the midst of that four-year stretch? Okay Captain Thin Skin, I'll bite. With 2002 and 2003 NCAA titles in the trophy case, I would not have pulled the plug on Lucia after that four year stretch. However, if Lucia hadn't made the changes he made to turn it around and was content with staying the course, I probably would have started making my list of potential replacements. Not making any changes would have told me that Lucia had lost perspective and that a change was needed for the good of the program.
runaroundsioux Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 I agree a ten or more year draught would be unacceptable, some might get a little skunky by then. I see what you did there,well done.
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