The Sicatoka Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 This is the best ammo they have had up to date. Carlson's Cadre has to be giddy with the opportunity.
watchmaker49 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Carlson's Cadre has to be giddy with the opportunity. The day the story broke they must have been high fiving each other and breaking out the Aste Spumanti.
dmksioux Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Sorry to bring this thread again, but here is an example of what can happen when a person commits forgery in the real world... http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/247779/
darell1976 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Posted October 25, 2012 Sorry to bring this thread again, but here is an example of what can happen when a person commits forgery in the real world... http://www.grandfork...icle/id/247779/ But at least it wasn't an alcohol or sexual crime.
The Sicatoka Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 But at least it wasn't an alcohol or sexual crime. ... or violent in nature. That's the Coach Bohl/AD Taylor benchmark: sexual or alcohol or violent.
darell1976 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Posted October 25, 2012 ... or violent in nature. That's the Coach Bohl/AD Taylor benchmark: sexual or alcohol or violent. So that leaves Forgery and shoplifting as okay in their book.
Bison06 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Sorry to bring this thread again, but here is an example of what can happen when a person commits forgery in the real world... http://www.grandfork...icle/id/247779/ If this is what happens in the "real world" its funny a judge didn't see the cases that way.
jdub27 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 If this is what happens in the "real world" its funny a judge didn't see the cases that way. You may be right, but how the courts see it may be changing soon. I think the point was how the "professional" world sees it.
UND92,96 Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Looks like USD is having quite a scandal of its own: http://www.arguslead...b|topnews|text|
Shawn-O Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Looks like USD is having quite a scandal of its own: http://www.arguslead...b|topnews|text| 1-9 records and newspaper articles like that tend to piss college presidents and AD's off...Is Glenn in any trouble there or did Meierkort just leave that big of a mess?
UND92,96 Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 1-9 records and newspaper articles like that tend to piss college presidents and AD's off...Is Glenn in any trouble there or did Meierkort just leave that big of a mess? Without looking too closely at it, I'm guessing that as it pertains to football, this is Meierkort's doing. I'm pretty sure all the current or former football players implicated were recruited under his watch. With that said, I think that a good argument could be made that it would have made more sense for USD to hire a football coach who will potentially be around long enough to build the program. At his age, I highly doubt Glenn is going to coach much longer. He is getting paid quite well by USD standards, so a 1-9 record (soon to be 1-10) can't be sitting well with anybody there.
choyt3 Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Downfall of going D1. True in the sense that the problems are more visible. D2 or D3, or NAIA programs are not without their own problems. The real reason for this "downfall" is the 24-7 news cycle. There was a UND hoops star back in the 90's that had more than one DUI who would have likely been dismissed from the team had the issues happened today.
watchmaker49 Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 True in the sense that the problems are more visible. D2 or D3, or NAIA programs are not without their own problems. The real reason for this "downfall" is the 24-7 news cycle. There was a UND hoops star back in the 90's that had more than one DUI who would have likely been dismissed from the team had the issues happened today. Did his name began with a G and was from a little town that began with an E?
choyt3 Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Did his name began with a G and was from a little town that began with an E? Not that one, but he had some, though, too. I was thinking of someone that played with that player.
FargoBison Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 So is the GF media simply incompetent or completely in bed with UND's athletic department? Five hockey players charged with a Class A Misdemeanor in early December and not one single article or tweet mentioning it.
PhillySioux Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 So is the GF media simply incompetent or completely in bed with UND's athletic department? Five hockey players charged with a Class A Misdemeanor in early December and not one single article or tweet mentioning it. Is "all of the above" an option?
homer Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Is this the reason they were suspended for the first regular season game? And that was before it went to trial?
UND1983 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 So is the GF media simply incompetent or completely in bed with UND's athletic department? Five hockey players charged with a Class A Misdemeanor in early December and not one single article or tweet mentioning it. This was from the incident before the season. They were already suspended for a game and one player got two games. For a Misdeameanor. The last thing an NDSU fan should do is wonder why nothing his happening when a UND player gets in trouble with the law. How are those Felonies from September being dealt with down in Fargo - still working on it? Day in court?
FargoBison Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 This was from the incident before the season. They were already suspended for a game and one player got two games. For a Misdeameanor. The last thing an NDSU fan should do is wonder why nothing his happening when a UND player gets in trouble with the law. How are those Felonies from September being dealt with down in Fargo - still working on it? Day in court? You know the reporting is so poor I have hard time knowing just what was going on legally but with that said I have a hard time believing it was for a misdemeanor considering they were not charged until multiple months after they were suspended. They were suspended for violating team rules though, that much was clear from what was reported. And they were charged with the same level misdemeanor as the NDSU football players and one player got two games because he also had another unrelated offense. But I don't really have an issue with how UND responded, my only question would be why one player who was charged was never suspended but like I said before there has been such terrible reporting by the Herald it is hard to know what is going on. I will say again that I don't really have a problem with how UND handled it. My issue is more with the media and how they completely failed to do their jobs. If that had happened in Fargo there is no doubt as soon as the charges were brought on the players it would be front page above the fold.
homer Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 I would get a hold of the forum than and ask them. The UND athletic dept. handled this already and will let the rest play out in court to see if anything further needs to happen. Its called getting out in front of the story, not saying "they have already suffered enough" and just waiting for it to pass over.
Herd Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 As far as we know from a media reporting standpoint, there was somthing that happened involving alcohol and underage drinking, and five players got suspended for 1 game. We had Zero knowledge of any charges filed or that any university discipline would occur other than game suspensions. Suspensions occurred at start of the season to limited impact to players and team, because winning is all that really matters, and boys will be boys. Wasn't it bascially a preseason or non-con game where the suspensions occurred? Please enlighten me on the specific game. Also, according to the reporting, no MIPs were issued to all the underage players involved in the situation, just the 5 players who were of legal age who were suspended. What is up with that, did the cops just look the other way? In NDSU's situation, we had a suspension (1 player for #1 vs #3), university discipline process discussed openly in a press conf, legal charges filed (at the same level as the und players), and medial stories at the start, the middle, the end and still happening with local, state "and" regional papers. And shockingly, people on this board smugly criticize the ndsu situation as not being treated seriously enough and see the lack of media coverage in the UND situation as no big deal that it was reported in September when no knowledge of legal charges were known. I guess these types of situations are only important and get media coverage when DI championship teams are involved. I guess UND hockey is not the biggest deal in ND or the region.
BigGreyAnt41 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Suspensions occurred at start of the season to limited impact to players and team, because winning is all that really matters, and boys will be boys. Wasn't it bascially a preseason or non-con game where the suspensions occurred? Please enlighten me on the specific game. They were suspended for the first game(s) after the incident happened. Were they supposed to wait until a higher profile game to suspend the players so that there was a bigger impact? And shockingly, people on this board smugly criticize the ndsu situation as not being treated seriously enough and see the lack of media coverage in the UND situation as no big deal that it was reported in September when no knowledge of legal charges were known. I guess these types of situations are only important and get media coverage when DI championship teams are involved. I guess UND hockey is not the biggest deal in ND or the region. Why get mad at the Herald? Isn't the Forum equally capable of reporting about events all around the state, just as the Herald is? It's not the job of the school to pro-actively go to the newspaper and tell them about what's going on. It's the newspaper's job. Maybe the Herald did drop the ball on this one, but the Forum is equally a guilty of that.
UND1983 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Herd, Please expand on the University Discipline process. I never saw any specifics on it.
The Sicatoka Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Could the difference be that UND got in front of its situation and suspended a bunch of players and reserved the right to do more later as warranted, and NDSU tried to portray their situation as being victims of their own misgivings and only acted after the pressure (media and public) mounted?
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