Jheria Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 For once in your life you actually made a relevant point. The fact that Randy Moss still has a job proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that character is not a high priority in the NFL (or at NDSU either, apparently, based on what went down this past week). Still waiting for you to make one
Jheria Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 I live in Fargo. So do I nremember that's when I met you. I go to the lake on the weekend though. Gotta take the pontoon and the jet ski out this weekend. You kept coming up with excuses as to why you cant meet meet (after you challenged me) Tomorrow night at Labbys over a beer. I'll have my TJ Oshie hat on
Jheria Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 You go to the lake 52 weekends every year? If you ever decide to go slumming by staying in Fargo for the weekend I'd be happy to buy you a beer on a Friday or Saturday night if you want to come out to Rick's, the Garage Bar, or wherever a good band is playing classic/hard rock. You let me me know which weekend and I'll let you know where I'll be. I said this weekend. When did I say every weekend? I (as you say) slum in Fago quite often. I guess if you cant stay up past nine on a week night we just won't be able to meet up for your tough guy meeting, I'm not wasting a weekend on you. You challenged me i responded with two diiferent places/times so its in your court. I do like Ricks for lunch though.
82SiouxGuy Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Coach Bohl answered that question in his press conference very candidly. He said he had known about the pending charges for "a couple of weeks". It would have been very easy for him to "take the easy way out" and suspend the guys for a meaningless game and it would have been done. For whatever reason he has decided not to, or someone has decided not to suspend the players and I would assume they have been punished within the team. To say that NDSU only cares about winning and rules be damned is not an accurate description of the scenario(you may not have said this, but others have) because they could have punished the players without having to sacrifice a win. I'm telling you that the average person on the street doesn't pay attention to every detail. They didn't listen to the press conference. Many of them don't care if they have been punished within the team. The average person on the street knows that a bunch of NDSU players committed a crime. They know that NDSU is treating the crime like it isn't a big deal even though it is a serious crime. They know that the players were not suspended, even though NDSU has suspended a lot of other players for equal or lesser crimes. They heard about the crimes, and the fact that NDSU wasn't going to suspend them on the same day, so they assume that NDSU heard about it that day. The PERCEPTION is that NDSU was didn't want to lose the players because they were playing a higher division team and that NDSU cares more about winning football games than doing what is right. The average person on the street in North Dakota are ultimately the people that own NDSU, and if they get upset enough they may demand that something is done. This isn't the type of story that North Dakota residents like seeing on ESPN and other national media.
The Sicatoka Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 DaveK, BIson06, Jheria: Take the personal spat offline (to PMs) or you will disappear for a period of time. Signed, The Management
The Sicatoka Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 What would I do? I'd have suspended for the RMU game while reserving the right to enforce additional sanctions after their court date.
tnt Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 I guess if the NDSU administration doesn't take fraud seriously, it would be smart for the state of North Dakota to take a stand in the punishment of these players, as once a precedent is set that this is a nothing crime for football players, how can you prosecute somebody else in the future more harshly for doing the same thing? Wouldn't it be ironic if trying to defend the victimized players, Gene Taylor actually caused them to be punished more strongly by the state to show that there are consequences to criminal behavior, even if you are a star football player.
The Sicatoka Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 How can Bresciani allow the word "fraud" to be associated with his institution in any manner without responding beyond a statement that he doesn't get involved in intra-department matters. Would Breciani be a passive observer if the 13 in question were all NDSU Student Senate members?
darell1976 Posted September 10, 2012 Author Posted September 10, 2012 DaveK, BIson06, Jheria: Take the personal spat offline (to PMs) or you will disappear for a period of time. Signed, The Management Thank you!!!!
WYOBISONMAN Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 DaveK, BIson06, Jheria: Take the personal spat offline (to PMs) or you will disappear for a period of time. Signed, The Management This crap sure as hell is not worth a fist fight.....Geez.
82SiouxGuy Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 How can Bresciani allow the word "fraud" to be associated with his institution in any manner without responding beyond a statement that he doesn't get involved in intra-department matters. Would Breciani be a passive observer if the 13 in question were all NDSU Student Senate members? I am a little surprised that we haven't heard at least a little more from the President of the school. He seems to be a bright guy. He has to know that this doesn't look good for the school, and that it isn't going to get better as long as they appear to do nothing.
siouxkid12 Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 May not get drafted but will get a shot Playing at a D-1AA school and having a crappy background isn't going to bring him up on anyones draftboard (or FA board). There are 100's of better players than him and most of them probably have better character. 1
Siouxperfan7 Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 DaveK, BIson06, Jheria: Take the personal spat offline (to PMs) or you will disappear for a period of time. Signed, The Management Good to see someone in leadership that is willing to suspend people for their actions around here!! 4
petey23 Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Athletics is the front porch of the University......Joe Chapman
FargoBison Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Playing at a D-1AA school and having a crappy background isn't going to bring him up on anyones draftboard (or FA board). There are 100's of better players than him and most of them probably have better character. What exactly is wrong with his background besides this on incident? Enlighten me......
petey23 Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Playing at a D-1AA school and having a crappy background isn't going to bring him up on anyones draftboard (or FA board). There are 100's of better players than him and most of them probably have better character. Incorrect. He is a legit NFL prospect and by most accounts is a pretty good kid who screwed up. Kids screw up all the time, the issue here is it doesn't seem like the NDSU football program or administration is going to attach any consequences to their actions. 1
SiouxVolley Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Http://publicsearch.ndcourts.gov/search.aspx City of Fargo vs Beck, Travis Andrew (LB, NDSU) 7/23/2012. Resisting a police officer 7/23/2012. Minor Purchase Alcohol 9/11/2012. Court Date Also, 06/06/2011. Minor (2nd) Deferred Sentence Condition: Violate no criminal laws through 12/6/2012 Guess the defendant may have had a compelling reason to resist a police office with the previous deferred sentence. Wish him all the best, but he's been playing with no suspension for multiple minors, buying as a minor, and a resisting police charge.
Bison06 Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 DaveK, BIson06, Jheria: Take the personal spat offline (to PMs) or you will disappear for a period of time. Signed, The Management Why am I being named in this? You guys have a serious problem with lumping everyone together.
darell1976 Posted September 10, 2012 Author Posted September 10, 2012 Http://publicsearch.ndcourts.gov/search.aspx City of Fargo vs Beck, Travis Andrew (LB, NDSU) 7/23/2012. Resisting a police officer 7/23/2012. Minor Purchase Alcohol 9/11/2012. Court Date Also, 06/06/2011. Minor (2nd) Deferred Sentence Condition: Violate no criminal laws through 12/6/2012 Guess the defendant may have had a compelling reason to resist a police office with the previous deferred sentence. Wish him all the best, but he's been playing with no suspension for multiple minors, buying as a minor, and a resisting police charge. Is this guy a starter?
The Sicatoka Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 What would I do? I'd have suspended for the RMU game while reserving the right to enforce additional sanctions after their court date. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the RMU game happen before the news broke about these kids committing fraud? I think yesterday's game was the first game played since this information was made public. Yes, RMU was before the news broke; however, Bohl admitted at his press conference the Tuesday before the CSU game (three days after the RMU game) that he's known about this issue for a couple weeks. He could've sat them for RMU for a generic "violation of team rules". When this broke later he could've told everyone that he's already dealt with it while reserving the right to do more after their day in court.
Oxbow6 Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 On a side note I heard from a reliable source this weekend familiar with the Jemison family that this is not the first episode of a "wardrobe malfunction" with this kid. Just the first time it has been brought to the authorities attention. That could explain why he was cut loose ASAP.
82SiouxGuy Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Is this guy a starter? I don't know if he starts, but he is the second leading tackler on the team after 2 games.
darell1976 Posted September 10, 2012 Author Posted September 10, 2012 I don't know if he starts, but he is the second leading tackler on the team after 2 games. Its not like its a DUI or a...oh wait um Gene its an alcohol and a resisting arrest charge...explain yourself now.
JohnboyND7 Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Playing at a D-1AA school and having a crappy background isn't going to bring him up on anyones draftboard (or FA board). There are 100's of better players than him and most of them probably have better character. Trumaine Johnson from Montana still went in the 2nd round. To say there are 100's of better players could be true, it should be noted though that in Marcus's last two FBS games he has looked like he is a step above them. I don't know where he is projected as a prospect but if he went somewhere in the 3-4 round range I don't think too many people would be surprised.
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