UNDBIZ Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Bids into NCAA Tournament.. BSC 15-16 Seed, SL 12-13 Seed. History does not agree with this. Quote
jdub27 Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Bids into NCAA Tournament.. BSC 15-16 Seed, SL 12-13 Seed. Really? I know dealing with actual facts gets in the way with your argument but the last 5 years disagree with you. 2013 - SDSU - 13 and Montana - 13 2012 - SDSU - 14 and Montana - 13 2011 - Oakland - 13 and UNC - 15 2010 - Oakland - 14 and Montana - 14 2009 - NDSU - 14 and Portland State - 13 3 Quote
homer Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Really? I know dealing with actual facts gets in the way with your argument but the last 5 years disagree with you. 2013 - SDSU - 13 and Montana - 13 2012 - SDSU - 14 and Montana - 13 2011 - Oakland - 13 and UNC - 15 2010 - Oakland - 14 and Montana - 14 2009 - NDSU - 14 and Portland State - 13 Hey now, no facts can be used in this arguement. In the end it all depends on which team qualifies by winning the tournament, not which conference they come from. Quote
darell1976 Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Bids into NCAA Tournament.. BSC 15-16 Seed, SL 12-13 Seed. 2013: SDSU #13 Montana #13 2012: SDSU #14 Montana #13 2011: Oakland #13 Northern Colorado #15 2010: Oakland #14 Montana #14 2009 NDSU #14 Portland St #13 2008: ORU #13 PSU #16 2007: ORU #14 Weber St #15 2006: ORU #16 Montana #12 2005: Oakland #16 (won playin game) Montana #16 2004: Valpo #15 EWU #15 Out of the last 10 the highest for the SL 13, highest for the BSC #12; lowest for the SL was a playin game #16, lowest for BSC 16. 2 Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Really? I know dealing with actual facts gets in the way with your argument but the last 5 years disagree with you. 2013 - SDSU - 13 and Montana - 13 2012 - SDSU - 14 and Montana - 13 2011 - Oakland - 13 and UNC - 15 2010 - Oakland - 14 and Montana - 14 2009 - NDSU - 14 and Portland State - 13 You're going to confuse him, he's not used to dealing with facts on his home forum. 1 Quote
jdub27 Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Bids into NCAA Tournament.. BSC 15-16 Seed, SL 12-13 Seed. Or this I guess.... Average seed for the Summit the last 5 years: 13.6 Average seed for the Big Sky the last 5 years: 13.6 Average seed the Summit the last 10 years: 14.2 Average seed the Big Sky the last 10 years: 14.2 2 Quote
darell1976 Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 SDSU went 1-1 Oops forgot about the UND game. Overall total 1-2 Quote
bincitysioux Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 With the Summit adding ORU and moving forward, there are no autobid issues, and the Summit will be right there with the MVC and Horizon in the coming years. I think you forgot the purple font................. Quote
nd1sufan Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Bids into NCAA Tournament.. BSC 1 (autobid), SL 1 (autobid). But UND fans rave about the quality of the Big Sky. Well, the Summit in men's basketball, mid-major (14 of 34), Big Sky, low-major (27 of 34). MVFC in football best in FCS, Big Sky middle of pack (4 of about 10). I think NDSU fans are seeing higher quality athletes game in and game out, regardless of what the uniforms say. Quote
jdub27 Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 But UND fans rave about the quality of the Big Sky. Well, the Summit in men's basketball, mid-major (14 of 34), Big Sky, low-major (27 of 34). MVFC in football best in FCS, Big Sky middle of pack (4 of about 10). I think NDSU fans are seeing higher quality athletes game in and game out, regardless of what the uniforms say. Results on the field and court continue to show there isn't much of a difference between the two conferences. The Summit's rating this year is propped up by playing and losing to more top 100 teams than the Big Sky. A whopping 25% of RPI involves a teams winning percentage. Both conferences winning percentage against higher ranked teams show that there isn't much difference. And tutside of NDSU, the MVFC wasn't all that special. The Big Sky was top heavy as well. If only games were played on paper, it would have saved NDSU from getting embarrassed earlier this season from a team from the lowly Big Sky... Quote
nd1sufan Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Results on the field and court continue to show there isn't much of a difference between the two conferences. The Summit's rating this year is propped up by playing and losing to more top 100 teams than the Big Sky. A whopping 25% of RPI involves a teams winning percentage. Both conferences winning percentage against higher ranked teams show that there isn't much difference. And tutside of NDSU, the MVFC wasn't all that special. The Big Sky was top heavy as well. If only games were played on paper, it would have saved NDSU from getting embarrassed earlier this season from a team from the lowly Big Sky... I was more embarrassed for UND and the ND Class B refs they hired for that game. Quote
homer Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 I was more embarrassed for UND and the ND Class B refs they hired for that game. Excuses. Let it go Saul. Quote
jdub27 Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Excuses. Let it go Saul. I'm sure he has a highlighted play by play showing where the refs were wrong. Quote
darell1976 Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 But UND fans rave about the quality of the Big Sky. Well, the Summit in men's basketball, mid-major (14 of 34), Big Sky, low-major (27 of 34). MVFC in football best in FCS, Big Sky middle of pack (4 of about 10). I think NDSU fans are seeing higher quality athletes game in and game out, regardless of what the uniforms say. Opinions vary. Quote
darell1976 Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 I was more embarrassed for NDSU's play along with the ND Class B refs that refed that game. FIFY UND had fouls called on them to. Quote
UND1983 Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 But UND fans rave about the quality of the Big Sky. Well, the Summit in men's basketball, mid-major (14 of 34), Big Sky, low-major (27 of 34). MVFC in football best in FCS, Big Sky middle of pack (4 of about 10). I think NDSU fans are seeing higher quality athletes game in and game out, regardless of what the uniforms say. I don't know one UND fan who "raves" about the quality of Big Sky basketball. Quote
UND1983 Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 I was more embarrassed for UND and the ND Class B refs they hired for that game. NDSU - 26 of 36 FT's - 30 fouls called on them UND - 33 of 41 FT's - 27 fouls called on them. The refs weren't the reason your team went 1-12 on three pointers. 1 Quote
nd1sufan Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 NDSU - 26 of 36 FT's - 30 fouls called on them UND - 33 of 41 FT's - 27 fouls called on them. The refs weren't the reason your team went 1-12 on three pointers. No, the reason was their best players were on the bench in foul trouble. If UND and NDSU play 10 times in the BSA, NDSU wins 10, NDSU wins 8 out of 10 on a neutral floor, and maybe they split in the Betty. Quote
andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 No, the reason was their best players were on the bench in foul trouble. If UND and NDSU play 10 times in the BSA, NDSU wins 10, NDSU wins 8 out of 10 on a neutral floor, and maybe they split in the Betty. UND cleaned your clocks, go away. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted February 9, 2014 Author Posted February 9, 2014 No, the reason was their best players were on the bench in foul trouble. If UND and NDSU play 10 times in the BSA, NDSU wins 10, NDSU wins 8 out of 10 on a neutral floor, and maybe they split in the Betty. Ifs ... buts ... Merry Christmas. Quote
darell1976 Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 No, the reason was their best players were on the bench in foul trouble. If UND and NDSU play 10 times in the BSA, NDSU wins 10, NDSU wins 8 out of 10 on a neutral floor, and maybe they split in the Betty. Excuses, excuses. You lost, we won accept it. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Bids into NCAA Tournament.. BSC 1 (autobid), SL 1 (autobid). I think we have a winner!!! Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 But UND fans rave about the quality of the Big Sky. Well, the Summit in men's basketball, mid-major (14 of 34), Big Sky, low-major (27 of 34). MVFC in football best in FCS, Big Sky middle of pack (4 of about 10). I think NDSU fans are seeing higher quality athletes game in and game out, regardless of what the uniforms say. yeah all 300 of them at womens bball games yeah all 400 of them at volleyball games yeah all 900 of them at mens bball games etc etc etc ..... Quote
darell1976 Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 yeah all 300 of them at womens bball games yeah all 400 of them at volleyball games yeah all 900 of them at mens bball games etc etc etc ..... Women's bball NDSU 2 home games over 1,000 (avg 742) ; UND all home games over 1,000 (1565 avg) Volleyball: NDSU 1 game over 1,000 (avg 750) UND 7 games over 1,000 (avg 1131) Men's basketball: NDSU Avg 2735, UND avg 1877 Bison fans love to make fun of UND in football attendance, but winning = attendance. Proof is in the numbers, plus nice to see great numbers in the Olympic sports. Quote
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