dmksioux Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 I think it's lame to copy the local high school team, but if it is chosen, I'd get over it. Even someone like me who has been critical of Roughriders concedes it's in the top-5 of that dreadful list. Care to share what your top five are on that list? EDIT: And if they are "copying a local high school team," at least they aren't considering the "Green Wave!" Quote
bigskyvikes Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Care to share what your top five are on that list? EDIT: And if they are "copying a local high school team," at least they aren't considering the "Green Wave!" They should be the Green Wave...lots of players on the team from the Green Wave... Quote
UND1983 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 They should be the Green Wave...lots of players on the team from the Green Wave... What team? Quote
mksioux Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Care to share what your top five are on that list? EDIT: And if they are "copying a local high school team," at least they aren't considering the "Green Wave!" My vote in this ss poll was Norse/Fighting Norse. But that didn't make the cut for some reason. So of the final 64: First Tier: Cavalry, Fighting Nokota/Nokes, Roughriders, North Dakota. Second Tier: Badlanders, Flickertails. Complete Garbage Tier: The Rest 1 Quote
dmksioux Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 My vote in this ss poll was Norse/Fighting Norse. But that didn't make the cut for some reason. So of the final 64: First Tier: Cavalry, Fighting Nokota/Nokes, Roughriders, North Dakota. Second Tier: Badlanders, Flickertails. Complete Garbage Tier: The Rest Your first tier are the same as mine, just a little different order. Put Roughriders first, Nokes second, Cavalry third and No name fourth. Just out of curiosity, you can justify Cavalry even though its very similar to the Viriginia Cav's/Cavaliers and Cleveland Cav's/Cavlaliers but have an issue with a High Schools already have Rough Riders? Poll anyone outside of the state of ND, and they are much more likely to know that North Dakota is the Roughrider state than they are to know that Red River High School actually exists in GF and they are the Rough Riders. Also, try the "name/sound" test. Which one sounds the best... The North Dakota Roughriders The North Dakota Nokota or The North Dakota Nokes. The North Dakota Cavalry or The North Dakota Cavs. The difference between Cavalry and Roughriders for me is that the Roughriders can be shortened to Riders and I don't puke like I do when Cavalry is shortened to Cavs. Roughriders is definitely more unique than Cavs and as has been mentioned numerous times, ND is known as the Roughrider state. Roughriders wasn't at the top of my list when this process began, but as of now, I would be pretty disappointed if it weren't chosen. Of course I reserve the right to change my mind should a different name surface, but of those on the list of 64, Roughriders seems the obvious choice. Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Between that (flickertail = gopher) and the North Stars idea (Minnesota state motto) why don't we just rename the state to West Minnesota? Exactly........well Fargo basically is anyway. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 If it's Cavalry I'm a gettin' me one-a these. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 If it's Cavalry I'm a gettin' me one-a these. If it's cavalry, the crossed sabers should be our logo. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 My vote in this ss poll was Norse/Fighting Norse. But that didn't make the cut for some reason. So of the final 64: First Tier: Cavalry, Fighting Nokota/Nokes, Roughriders, North Dakota. Second Tier: Badlanders, Flickertails. Complete Garbage Tier: The Rest "Norse" breaks the NCAA rule (no race, ethnicity, or national origin based nicknames). At least the committee didn't think Norse was a horse (because they think Nokota is a tribe). I'd put "North Dakota" into the second tier. I consider each tier unordered and agree. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 If it's cavalry, the crossed sabers should be our logo. Oh no ... we'd be "copying" U of Virginia ... Quote
UNDBIZ Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 "Norse" breaks the NCAA rule (no race, ethnicity, or national origin based nicknames). At least the committee didn't think Norse was a horse (because they think Nokota is a tribe). I'd put "North Dakota" into the second tier. I consider each tier unordered and agree. But it's a white race, so there is no such thing as being racist against it. 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Oh no ... we'd be "copying" U of Virginia ... Actually, there it is. Interlocking ND with crossed sabers below it. We're never going to play U of Virginia in anything anyway. Done. Quote
mksioux Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 "Norse" breaks the NCAA rule (no race, ethnicity, or national origin based nicknames). Huh? That's not the NCAA rule. The NCAA rule is limited to Native American nicknames. Quote
Fetch Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 I wish there could be a vote at Red River HS of current & Alums. If they want UND to take their name - I'd even say Central HS - before some un-informed misguided folks vote & do this to the community The Herald could do something like this on their website Quote
The Sicatoka Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Huh? That's not the NCAA rule. The NCAA rule is limited to Native American nicknames. If you read the policy as written, it says no race, ethnicity, or national origin based names. Yes, if they read and enforced their own policy Irish and Vandals would be on the chopping block also. Quote
ringneck28 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 I wish there could be a vote at Red River HS of current & Alums. If they want UND to take their name - I'd even say Central HS - before some un-informed misguided folks vote & do this to the community The Herald could do something like this on their website What about a North Dakota tax payer? Should they not have a say? Quote
Fetch Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 They will when they UND vote happens - I'm talking about before that (un-informed misguided) the final vote folks may not understand that there could be issues Quote
Fetch Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 If it's not a problem & that name (along with many others) wins then I will just Ignore it & stay Fighting Sioux for life Quote
SiouxVolley Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 I wish there could be a vote at Red River HS of current & Alums. If they want UND to take their name - I'd even say Central HS - before some un-informed misguided folks vote & do this to the community The Herald could do something like this on their websiteSo Grand Forks RRHS who stole NDs nickname is the rightful owner? Quote
Fetch Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 There are a few names I could live with Roughriders is not one of those 1 Quote
ringneck28 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 What is the estimated size of alumi base of UND? What is the size of UND athletics fan base? Quote
Fetch Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 So Grand Forks RRHS who stole NDs nickname is the rightful owner? No but this process needs to try to solve a problem not make it worse I dont know how long the State Dept.of Tourism has used or promoted Roughriders but the HS has used it a long time now (got to be close to 40 years) Quote
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