former players

[cberkas]

  On 4/29/2024 at 6:25 PM, scpa0305 said:

Not a former player, but a former coach, sounds like Hak is on the way out. Hopefully he finds his next spot quickly.

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Dumb move but then again Buffalo Hired Lindy Ruff again because nostalgia.

Seattle are still 3 years away with how Francis is doing things.  

[Goon]

 

 

[The Sicatoka]

  On 4/29/2024 at 6:25 PM, scpa0305 said:

Not a former player, but a former coach, sounds like Hak is on the way out. Hopefully he finds his next spot quickly.

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Say what? 

Former captain. 

[sioux rube]

[The Sicatoka]

SEA sets back development plan and goals at least two seasons. 

[fightingsioux4life]

  On 4/29/2024 at 6:42 PM, The Sicatoka said:

SEA sets back development plan and goals at least two seasons. 

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If the Kraken don't improve after the coaching change, then Francis may be on the way out as well. Scapegoating only works for so long.

[The Sicatoka]

SJS looks a lot like SEA three years ago ... jus' sayin' ... 

[cberkas]

  On 4/29/2024 at 6:44 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

If the Kraken don't improve after the coaching change, then Francis may be on the way out as well. Scapegoating only works for so long.

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He made some head scratching decisions since he became the GM.  

[tnt]

  On 4/29/2024 at 6:42 PM, The Sicatoka said:

SEA sets back development plan and goals at least two seasons. 

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I guess the lesson in all of this is not to overachieve early as a franchise.  Gerard Gallant gets the axe early on with Vegas after overachieving and so did the Kraken.  I would think with the lack of finishing ability, the Kraken would wait until they get some high end talent, which I thought was why they didn't go head on into free agency, because they wanted to progress like most new franchises do.   Very odd, but I have a feeling they have someone in mind they want to install. 

[The Sicatoka]

Hak just finished year one of a three year extension (value unknown). 
https://www.capfriendly.com/staff/dave-hakstol 

[Wilbur]

Better get the job done sooner than later in the big boy world of professional sports.  Overachieve one year, and ending up where you likely should end up based on your talent ends up costing you your job.

Either way, I'm sure he has some buy out money from that contract headed his way.  

[The Sicatoka]

If Bubs retired Hak could replace him and UND would have a younger coach. 

[tnt]

If you're going to scapegoat the coach because they haven't done what Vegas has done, at least spend the money on free agency like Vegas did.   

[Blackheart]

  On 4/29/2024 at 7:23 PM, tnt said:

If you're going to scapegoat the coach because they haven't done what Vegas has done, at least spend the money on free agency like Vegas did.   

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Not everyone has guys on the LTIR like Vegas, though...

[cberkas]

  On 4/29/2024 at 7:10 PM, tnt said:

I guess the lesson in all of this is not to overachieve in your first year as a franchise.  Gerard Gallant gets the axe early on with Vegas after overachieving and so did the Kraken.  I would think with the lack of finishing ability, the Kraken would wait until they get some high end talent, which I thought was why they didn't go head on into free agency, because they wanted to progress like most new franchises do.   Very odd, but I have a feeling they have someone in mind they want to install. 

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When they hired DeBoer after Gallant I was like what is Vegas doing, do they not see that DeBoer sucks in the playoffs. 

If Hak goes to the Sharks and gets them in the playoffs would be funny 

[Big A HG]

HAK IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS.

Bring him home!

[cberkas]

  On 4/29/2024 at 7:29 PM, Blackheart said:

Not everyone has guys on the LTIR like Vegas, though...

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Or have a competent GM that fleeced everyone in the expansion draft. 

[Blackheart]

  On 4/29/2024 at 7:37 PM, Big A HG said:

HAK IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS.

Bring him home!

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Oh boy!

[tnt]

If Francis hires his buddy Dean Evason then we'll know where this came from.   Will be interesting to see if he does that if they spend a ton of money to be more competitive offensively.   

[tnt]

  On 4/29/2024 at 7:40 PM, cberkas said:

Or have a competent GM that fleeced everyone in the expansion draft. 

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That's the thing, no way was Seattle going to be able to do the same after every team saw the outcome the first time around.  That's why I thought Seattle was doing the sensible thing by building draft capital and developing their young players.   Guess we'll see if they have changed their philosophy and spend on high end offensive talent. 

[cberkas]

  On 4/29/2024 at 8:06 PM, tnt said:

That's the thing, no way was Seattle going to be able to do the same after every team saw the outcome the first time around.  That's why I thought Seattle was doing the sensible thing by building draft capital and developing their young players.   Guess we'll see if they have changed their philosophy and spend on high end offensive talent. 

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All he did was have cap space, then didn't use it like he said he would. Francis should have just said spend three years tanking to get top 3 picks. 

[Goon]

  On 4/29/2024 at 7:21 PM, The Sicatoka said:

If Bubs retired Hak could replace him and UND would have a younger coach. 

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You do realize that Berry is only about four years older than Hak, right?  FMP -> @The Sicatoka

[sioux rube]

  On 4/29/2024 at 8:18 PM, cberkas said:

All he did was have cap space, then didn't use it like he said he would. Francis should have just said spend three years tanking to get top 3 picks. 

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I think they let the wrong guy go 

[dden3]

  On 4/29/2024 at 8:55 PM, sioux rube said:

I think they let the wrong guy go 

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Absolutely let the wrong guy go. 

[dden3]

I hope Hak finds a team with some better players than what he’s had to work with so far.