Hawkster

And if we DON'T make the playoffs, Mussman had better be gone.

I want an FBS win so bad I can almost taste it. We have easy FBS teams the next 2 years, so it had better happen. What is really frustrating is we are the only Dakota school that has neither an FBS win nor a playoff win. Muss, are you listening?

I agree with the others who said this game will be very telling about what the team is capable of. A bad showing here will not sit well for our other tough games. I'm not seeing a blowout here, so if we step it up, it should be a big W. We need that signature win, and while this isn't that much coveted FBS win, it will have to do. One thing we can't do is let SDSU turn the game into a track meet. We can't go into this thing just hoping just to outscore SDSU. The defense has to hold and keep things reasonable. We can win, but we can't put up numbers like we did against Valpo. Please show some "D". Please, please, please.

I agree fully. I've always felt that no one would take us seriously until we have an FBS win and a playoff run. What frustrates me is playing Valpo this year rather than taking on an FBS. We don't need an easy win, we need to knock off a big one and stop playing garbage year in and year out like Valpo, Mines, SF, ect. Even when they count, like Valpo does, it still doesn't do the program any good. This is why Fargo is kicking our asses in the FB program.

I'm going with 59 to 6, us of course. If we don't win by at least 50 then there is something wrong. I know this game is an easy W but it's really not going to be much more educational for our players then a good scrimage. The acid test comes next week

It's not lack of talent that is the problem, it's coaching decisions. Remember the play calling when Muss decided to go for it on 4th and 1 rather than just kicking a field goal to win the game?

All that's left is to win a couple, maybe 3 out of 5. Certainly possible.

Why are GSU and App State on the list? I thought they had moved on and were ineligible this year in FCS?

But it's like driving past a bad traffic accident. You don't want to look, you know you shouldn't look, but you just have to. So, I looked, and wished I hadn't, so I won't be going there again.

I'm thinking if Muss doesn't get us to the Promised Land, ie, the Playoffs, he should and will be gone. He really has nothing to hang his hat on as far as signature wins in the D1 era. Our biggest D1 win happened when we were D2, beating UNI. I look for an improvement this year, hopefully the improvement goes far enough to fulfill my dreams.

I see I've got a grammar error there. It should say I'm worried a clear winner WON'T emerge. There is something to be said about proof reading.

My big fear is that clear winner will emerge and Muss will do a Quarterback By Committee thing, where he jumps back and forth. Lack of experience is going to lead to some inconsistent playing and could get Muss to shuffle players.

Hey, I just looked and I've still got both my arms.

There's nothing wrong with bringing up past games. Think about it, what's the point of piss pounding someone if you can't gloat about it for the next 20 years. When we meet in the playoffs, we'll see what happens, and until then, who cares? I just wish this subject would go away until then.

I sure we make the playoffs, it's actually a little embarrasing not to make the playoffs now that we're eligible. An FBS win would be nice at some point in the future. We definitely need that signature D1 win.

How about some games on statewide TV? That doesn't seem to be happening either.

I don't see any of them going to the Sky. They'll go Horizon if the Summit folds.

Too bad. A dance date would have been nice

Rowney

Getting back to the topic of FBS football, which has nothing to do with basketball, I'd say we should forget it until we dominate FCS, and so far that hasn't happened. Win a couple titles and pack the stadium, then we'll talk.

Knight

Bringing up the same old arguments and continually begging is beneth us. Just work towards getting into the playoffs and the problems are over.

Darrel, seriously, it's actually embarrassing how you carry on about this UND-NDSU thing. The best thing to hope for is to meet and beat them in playoffs. Really, we control our own destiny on this. It appears that the NCAA will always pair up regional teams early, so this should be the goal. Another way to look at is, if we aren't good enough to make the playoffs, would really want to meet up with the Bison? In the mean time, give the ex rivalry a rest. Your blood pressure might appreciate it.

Darrel, even I know that our defense isn't a threat to anyone, not even NDSU.

I can't believe I wasted 10 minutes of my life reading the last 6 or so pages of this.