Basketball budget

[gfhockey]

Per this link

ee sprnd 2nd most out of Dakota schools in ball

 

https://www.extrapointsmb.com/p/here-s-what-it-costs-to-make-a-run-in-march-madness

 

and some of you want to spend more?

[SIOUXFAN97]

or just win more....

[forksandspoons]

1 hour ago, gfhockey said:

Per this link

ee sprnd 2nd most out of Dakota schools in ball

 

https://www.extrapointsmb.com/p/here-s-what-it-costs-to-make-a-run-in-march-madness

 

and some of you want to spend more?

If this is legit, this would completely contradict the narrative we have been fed in order to warrant an extension 

[UND69er]

15 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

If this is legit, this would completely contradict the narrative we have been fed in order to warrant an extension 

Per this info UND spends $0.5 million more than NDSU. Results??

[GoodGood]

1 minute ago, UND69er said:

Per this info UND spends $0.5 million more than NDSU. Results??

They don’t have to deal with COVID, transfer portal, and their location like UND has to 

[gfhockey]

16 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

They don’t have to deal with COVID, transfer portal, and their location like UND has to 

Good point

[Long Snapper 92]

Wow! This is embarrassing 

[CMSioux]

Would be interesting to throw a Venn Diagram over the top five NCAA MBB winners over the past 20 years and this list. 

[jdub27]

UND doesn't own the venue it plays in, unlike the other 3 Dakota schools. I don't have the most recent numbers, but guessing just removing that and UND falls to the bottom of the 4 or very near it once you look at Facilities Expenses.

Also, these numbers are shaky at best for comparison's sake as each school can report as they see fit. Some schools break more stuff out and tie it to individual sport, some just bunch a lot of that stuff together. 

[UND Fan]

While this likely provides a decent comparison as to how much a university budgets/spends for BB, there are no set guidelines for how a university records actual expenses or budgets future costs.  You are not looking at "apples to apples" numbers.    

[gfhockey]

20 minutes ago, UND Fan said:

While this likely provides a decent comparison as to how much a university budgets/spends for BB, there are no set guidelines for how a university records actual expenses or budgets future costs.  You are not looking at "apples to apples" numbers.    

Where can we find the Apple apple’s numbers or is Chávez Cook in the books?

[coachdags]

1 hour ago, jdub27 said:

UND doesn't own the venue it plays in, unlike the other 3 Dakota schools. I don't have the most recent numbers, but guessing just removing that and UND falls to the bottom of the 4 or very near it once you look at Facilities Expenses.

Also, these numbers are shaky at best for comparison's sake as each school can report as they see fit. Some schools break more stuff out and tie it to individual sport, some just bunch a lot of that stuff together. 

More to this  point, I remember a discussion with a person in the REA chain. He was wondering how UND Athletics was going to help pay for the New Roof on the Betty!

A numbers breakdown would definitely be warranted to see the real picture.

[HockeyHawk]

17 hours ago, forksandspoons said:

If this is legit, this would completely contradict the narrative we have been fed in order to warrant an extension 

Are you surprised Chaves didn’t tell the truth to the fans? But let’s be realistic the only way UND has a consistent chance at the top is to outspend others, people aren’t lining up to live in Grand Forks. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

14 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said:

Are you surprised Chaves didn’t tell the truth to the fans? But let’s be realistic the only way UND has a consistent chance at the top is to outspend others, people aren’t lining up to live in Grand Forks. 

same for fargo, brookings, and the milly....

 

[homer]

I still think an internal comparison of spending/sport is more important and valuable. 
 

Basketball is still at the top of untapped potential for school exposure and opportunity for return and should be funded appropriately.  

[nodak651]

2 hours ago, jdub27 said:

UND doesn't own the venue it plays in, unlike the other 3 Dakota schools. I don't have the most recent numbers, but guessing just removing that and UND falls to the bottom of the 4 or very near it once you look at Facilities Expenses.

Also, these numbers are shaky at best for comparison's sake as each school can report as they see fit. Some schools break more stuff out and tie it to individual sport, some just bunch a lot of that stuff together. 

Athletic facilities debt service, leases, and rental fees is below  

[gfhockey]

3 hours ago, UND Fan said:

While this likely provides a decent comparison as to how much a university budgets/spends for BB, there are no set guidelines for how a university records actual expenses or budgets future costs.  You are not looking at "apples to apples" numbers.    

Where can we find the Apple apple’s numbers or is Chávez Cook in the books?

[gfhockey]

25 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Athletic facilities debt service, leases, and rental fees is below  

Yeah, I guess it helps when other schools have fundraisers that are taking out loans or are actually fundraising for athletics. When all we do is fundraisers for academics it seems.

[fightingsioux4life]

42 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Yeah, I guess it helps when other schools have fundraisers that are taking out loans or are actually fundraising for athletics. When all we do is fundraisers for academics it seems.

This isn't an academics vs. athletics vs. research issue. I believe we can be great in all three. False choices will only hold us back from our full potential as an institution.

[gfhockey]

21 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

This isn't an academics vs. athletics vs. research issue. I believe we can be great in all three. False choices will only hold us back from our full potential as an institution.

Well, why don’t those entities have to pay rent at schools and we do

[SIOUXFAN97]

10 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Well, why don’t those entities have to pay rent at schools and we do

 

[nodak651]

5 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Well, why don’t those entities have to pay rent at schools and we do

Just read the usage agreement between UND and the Ralph.  Do some research to figure out how other schools pay for their facilities.  Read the guidelines for how schools are supposed to fill out the NCAA financial reports.  If you really care enough to find an answer you're gonna have to do the work yourself.  There's a ton of naunce and schools report things differently.

[FSSD]

4 hours ago, jdub27 said:

UND doesn't own the venue it plays in, unlike the other 3 Dakota schools. I don't have the most recent numbers, but guessing just removing that and UND falls to the bottom of the 4 or very near it once you look at Facilities Expenses.

Also, these numbers are shaky at best for comparison's sake as each school can report as they see fit. Some schools break more stuff out and tie it to individual sport, some just bunch a lot of that stuff together. 

Agreed, SDSU's reported operations budget for football jumped $2 or $3 m recently.  I believe that $2 or $3 m is tied to capital expenses - paying off the bonds for the new stadium.  Every school does it differently.

[SIOUXFAN97]

how are we this "broke" when we've had to pay nearly zero for all our athletic complexes in the last 25 years...puzzlin'

[HockeyHawk]

2 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

same for fargo, brookings, and the milly....

 

Sorry but Fargo is a way better place the GF, and Brookings is South and a little warmer. GF is by far the worst location.