OldschoolUND Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 26 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Isn’t there courts at the student wellness center? You’re not serious are you? Yes, those are for recreational use. No equipment or shooting machines and your fighting for a hoop. Quote
gfhockey Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, OldschoolUND said: You’re not serious are you? Yes, those are for recreational use. No equipment or shooting machines and your fighting for a hoop. Well, where did they practice at 20 years ago? Quote
coachdags Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 3 hours ago, OldschoolUND said: RECAP UND Dead Last- 5 transfers,4 freshman (no excuses) USD 3rd- 9 transfers,4 freshman. 3pt shooting dead last 27% (bases of offense with no adjustments all year) Hughes one of the worst 3pt shooters at 25% chucks 160 3’s with no repercussions. (Basically turnovers) Hughes makes the real record book cracking the top 10 all time coming in at # 8 with 104 turnovers with no repercussions. Hutter states Hughes brought in to teach how to compete. Here is where the problem lies. If you can’t find 15 players willing to compete you’re not doing your job! Geno Auriemma always says we don’t teach that stuff! The site is not for parents I guess. If you know too much you are a parent and it is all lies I guess. Everyone is a professional armchair coach on this site. I don’t know how many people said this team was going to be good. That would mean if you picked the transfers we would still be in the same boat dead last! Maybe it’s not that easy! Coach complains to refs,players, staff and never coaches! 4 division 1 wins! Teams next year have calendar marked no scout needed against UND. Same everything for year 3. When the real attendance comes out we will be towards the bottom. Be careful what you wish for on having a bunch of people transferring out. It’s hard getting people to come here let alone good players. Playing time is decided by how much 1 on 1 time with coach. CREEPY! (Per source) Just curious has anyone ever revealed their source on this site. Real teams with culture don’t say a word about it! They actually live it! Hutter is above doing media and keeping us informed on regular basis. (Is this not a job requirement?) Facilities are lacking big time! No NIL money. You know you’ve hit rock bottom when we are celebrating a 2000 pt scorer who scored 1647 pts in 4yrs of division NAIA. Are you kidding me! We should start counting high school scoring also. If you are going to act like a NAIA school maybe thats the league we need to be in to be competitive. EMBARRASSING! Chaves response this year has been “wait until next year” (per source) CHAVES IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE WRONG! Hutter stated this wasn’t a rebuild year and then changed his tune during the season. Why didn’t he then play younger players more to see what he had and to develop them. In stead he tried to save grace and played a 5th yr player who just laughed during the final interview after getting waxed by a team that had tryouts. Not to mention Hutter was all smiles as well! No one cares I guess. I’m just an old fan that has been embarrassed for to long! UND BE BETTER! 💯- sad, but true. We were a better D2 team and program. Administration actually cared and people held responsible. Fun to watch, crowds actually out drew the Mens Program. We are heading is a poor direction with the wrong people driving the bus. Not even close to a competitive program. The alumni, I know do not support this. USD, SDSU, NDSU - mostly filled with Regional Talent- May not all be D1, but Coached to play for a purpose. #BeBetter 1 Quote
coachdags Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 24 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Well, where did they practice at 20 years ago? Hyslop had the upstairs gym that was reserved for Basketball programs 1st, then Volleyball. Very seldom did they use multi purpose gym as a team. Quote
GoodGood Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago It’s amazing to me that people watched Sathers year 3 team and said “Give him more time” but want to can another coach after year 1 #noticing 1 2 Quote
coachdags Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 20 minutes ago, GoodGood said: It’s amazing to me that people watched Sathers year 3 team and said “Give him more time” but want to can another coach after year 1 #noticing Wasn’t all roses 🌹 Apples to Oranges! 1st year was in Summit Final, gave him some grace, covid and beginning of NIL and free transfers help with more grace! Tatally different world of basketball right now, and WBB showed no promise or adjustments Quote
GoodGood Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 2 minutes ago, coachdags said: Wasn’t all roses 🌹 Apples to Oranges! 1st year was in Summit Final, gave him some grace, covid and beginning of NIL and free transfers help! Tatally different world of basketball right now, and WBB showed no promise or adjustments He probably should have played the girl who shot 10% from the field more. Could have got more grace from Coach Dags 1 Quote
coachdags Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 2 minutes ago, GoodGood said: He probably should have played the girl who shot 10% from the field more. Could have got more grace from Coach Dags In 31 games the players he was playing didn’t seem to give us any improvement? Definition of insanity! Quote
gfhockey Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Hutter di have a hand in recruiting before he got the main jobs Quote
Long Snapper 92 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 6 minutes ago, coachdags said: In 31 games the players he was playing didn’t seem to give us any improvement? Definition of insanity! Your continued bashing of a 1st year coach who was left with an absolute mess to try and clean up is the definition of insanity. Give him at least 20% of the grace you always give Sather when he would put pathetic teams out on the floor and still has countless coaching malpractices. 1 3 Quote
undwbbdeservesbetter Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 4 hours ago, OldschoolUND said: RECAP UND Dead Last- 5 transfers,4 freshman (no excuses) USD 3rd- 9 transfers,4 freshman. 3pt shooting dead last 27% (bases of offense with no adjustments all year) Hughes one of the worst 3pt shooters at 25% chucks 160 3’s with no repercussions. (Basically turnovers) Hughes makes the real record book cracking the top 10 all time coming in at # 8 with 104 turnovers with no repercussions. Hutter states Hughes brought in to teach how to compete. Here is where the problem lies. If you can’t find 15 players willing to compete you’re not doing your job! Geno Auriemma always says we don’t teach that stuff! The site is not for parents I guess. If you know too much you are a parent and it is all lies I guess. Everyone is a professional armchair coach on this site. I don’t know how many people said this team was going to be good. That would mean if you picked the transfers we would still be in the same boat dead last! Maybe it’s not that easy! Coach complains to refs,players, staff and never coaches! 4 division 1 wins! Teams next year have calendar marked no scout needed against UND. Same everything for year 3. When the real attendance comes out we will be towards the bottom. Be careful what you wish for on having a bunch of people transferring out. It’s hard getting people to come here let alone good players. Playing time is decided by how much 1 on 1 time with coach. CREEPY! (Per source) Just curious has anyone ever revealed their source on this site. Real teams with culture don’t say a word about it! They actually live it! Hutter is above doing media and keeping us informed on regular basis. (Is this not a job requirement?) Facilities are lacking big time! No NIL money. You know you’ve hit rock bottom when we are celebrating a 2000 pt scorer who scored 1647 pts in 4yrs of division NAIA. Are you kidding me! We should start counting high school scoring also. If you are going to act like a NAIA school maybe thats the league we need to be in to be competitive. EMBARRASSING! Chaves response this year has been “wait until next year” (per source) CHAVES IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE WRONG! Hutter stated this wasn’t a rebuild year and then changed his tune during the season. Why didn’t he then play younger players more to see what he had and to develop them. In stead he tried to save grace and played a 5th yr player who just laughed during the final interview after getting waxed by a team that had tryouts. Not to mention Hutter was all smiles as well! No one cares I guess. I’m just an old fan that has been embarrassed for to long! UND BE BETTER! #24 glad im not the only one who noticed, all smiles between hughes and hutter in post game presser, not only creepy but gross the way they looked at eachother, its obvious hes infatuated with her, all smiles in a press conference after a loss to the net ranked 355 out of 363 teams omaha is unacceptable Quote
Popular Post GoodGood Posted 14 hours ago Popular Post Posted 14 hours ago What some of you are implying or flat out saying is gross. You better have more proof than smiling in a press conference 5 Quote
McBuckets Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Might be time to ban this new account that just joined Sunday 2 Quote
DL Sioux Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 27 minutes ago, undwbbdeservesbetter said: #24 glad im not the only one who noticed, all smiles between hughes and hutter in post game presser, not only creepy but gross the way they looked at eachother, its obvious hes infatuated with her, all smiles in a press conference after a loss to the net ranked 355 out of 363 teams omaha is unacceptable Nice first post!!! Quote
F'n Hawks Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 23 minutes ago, GoodGood said: What some of you are implying or flat out saying is gross. You better have more proof than smiling in a press conference Such a weird thing to say or speculate about. 2 Quote
sioux24/7 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago This is actually very comical the differences in stances here. Quote
ND-fan Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago I don’t know what’s happening internally with the team but I will put this into as simple as I can say Hutter inherited team that was gutted by mass transfer after last season , program that has poor facilities so far little improvement on that front, no NIL money available for the program and you want a coach produce winner out the gate. I watched more games this off season than number of people on this site and I want to see what I saw of this team. Presently we had no elite player at this time on this team who can take over dominate the floor. What we have group of freshman and sophomores that got lot of playing time this year that showed improvement this year but majority of them also have been injured through the season. I believe these player were not ready physically to play significant minutes but several of these players improved to point they were playing effectively now to compete at this level. I think these players can become effective players but we still need to add some high level talent to this team and you will see how these players will develop into very good players. Hutters coaching style is more old school but I don’t if that will be successful here or not and if he can’t keep players and he looses the team this will show up shortly going forward past history hasn’t shown this but I don’t know for sure on this point. What players say they like team chemistry and have adapted to his style of coaching. I think his coaching style to military drill instructor not something a lot of people like and not politically correct but we will see if players want to play with this style and he can get team to play together and win. if UND needs to improve infrastructure if we’re going to compete we need division I basketball court and practice facilities, better resources for NIL money, and finally improvement in game time resources to improve fan experience going to basketballl game. The latter is getting corporate sponsorship invest in basketball experience for the fan and also getting media involved in selling basketball in Grand Forks as well North Dakota and Minnesota. NDSU has gone through this and now only getting this program back to top conference and this has taken their present coach seven years to get to this point and still they may have not reached the Dance. The top four in conference semifinal all have updated facilities, put money into recruiting players while we have let our program to where we are now.. Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 14 hours ago, OldschoolUND said: RECAP UND Dead Last- 5 transfers,4 freshman (no excuses) USD 3rd- 9 transfers,4 freshman. 3pt shooting dead last 27% (bases of offense with no adjustments all year) Hughes one of the worst 3pt shooters at 25% chucks 160 3’s with no repercussions. (Basically turnovers) Hughes makes the real record book cracking the top 10 all time coming in at # 8 with 104 turnovers with no repercussions. Hutter states Hughes brought in to teach how to compete. Here is where the problem lies. If you can’t find 15 players willing to compete you’re not doing your job! Geno Auriemma always says we don’t teach that stuff! The site is not for parents I guess. If you know too much you are a parent and it is all lies I guess. Everyone is a professional armchair coach on this site. I don’t know how many people said this team was going to be good. That would mean if you picked the transfers we would still be in the same boat dead last! Maybe it’s not that easy! Coach complains to refs,players, staff and never coaches! 4 division 1 wins! Teams next year have calendar marked no scout needed against UND. Same everything for year 3. When the real attendance comes out we will be towards the bottom. Be careful what you wish for on having a bunch of people transferring out. It’s hard getting people to come here let alone good players. Playing time is decided by how much 1 on 1 time with coach. CREEPY! (Per source) Just curious has anyone ever revealed their source on this site. Real teams with culture don’t say a word about it! They actually live it! Hutter is above doing media and keeping us informed on regular basis. (Is this not a job requirement?) Facilities are lacking big time! No NIL money. You know you’ve hit rock bottom when we are celebrating a 2000 pt scorer who scored 1647 pts in 4yrs of division NAIA. Are you kidding me! We should start counting high school scoring also. If you are going to act like a NAIA school maybe thats the league we need to be in to be competitive. EMBARRASSING! Chaves response this year has been “wait until next year” (per source) CHAVES IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE WRONG! Hutter stated this wasn’t a rebuild year and then changed his tune during the season. Why didn’t he then play younger players more to see what he had and to develop them. In stead he tried to save grace and played a 5th yr player who just laughed during the final interview after getting waxed by a team that had tryouts. Not to mention Hutter was all smiles as well! No one cares I guess. I’m just an old fan that has been embarrassed for to long! UND BE BETTER! One could argue most of your points are proof that Hutter inherited a mess, rather than he is the problem. Do you think it’s easy to recruit given the recent history of this program? He was successful at Mayville. Do you think he just forgot how to coach? Or might it have something to do with the talent level on the roster? I have no idea if he can turn things around. I don’t believe most coaches could, given how far this program has fallen. But he deserves a few years before the pitchforks come out. 2 Quote
UND92,96 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago If you are a program with a minimal NIL budget, you can still be at least moderately successful, but you need to do it primarily via high school recruiting, since that's relatively inexpensive. I think we've started to see that with Sather. Obviously he faces the same issues with regard to facilities, NIL, etc., but he seems to have developed a potentially successful formula of recruiting MN quite well, and filling in the gaps with ND kids and one or two decent portal additions per year. Hutter may be able to do the same thing, but it's not easy to be immediately successful with high school recruiting. It's probably a fair criticism to say that Hutter may be a bit too enamored with his preferred style of play. It didn't work well this past season, and maybe he should have adjusted more (even though it probably wouldn't have resulted in many, if any more wins), but I watched enough Mayville State games to believe that his system CAN work, with the right types of players. Whether he can successfully recruit them remains to be seen. Quote
F'n Hawks Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago 30 minutes ago, UND92,96 said: If you are a program with a minimal NIL budget, you can still be at least moderately successful, but you need to do it primarily via high school recruiting, since that's relatively inexpensive. I think we've started to see that with Sather. Obviously he faces the same issues with regard to facilities, NIL, etc., but he seems to have developed a potentially successful formula of recruiting MN quite well, and filling in the gaps with ND kids and one or two decent portal additions per year. Hutter may be able to do the same thing, but it's not easy to be immediately successful with high school recruiting. It's probably a fair criticism to say that Hutter may be a bit too enamored with his preferred style of play. It didn't work well this past season, and maybe he should have adjusted more (even though it probably wouldn't have resulted in many, if any more wins), but I watched enough Mayville State games to believe that his system CAN work, with the right types of players. Whether he can successfully recruit them remains to be seen. His last team at Mayville State was better than the team we had at UND this year. He’s going to have to show some improvement next year. Quote
NewUndFan Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago I will say this AGAIN. This is CHAVES fault for hiring Mal and then extending her! Mal totally destroyed this program. Her coaching and recruiting was AWFUL. We had More players from Michigan then Minnesota. Chaves allowed all this to happen and then awarded. First year of Hutter I am not totally impressed, but I am going to give him a year or two to show improvement . He also had several girls injured that could not play this year. 1 Quote
UND1983 Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago It was a combination of Mal being lazy and allowing Motherwell to convince her Ohio, Michigan and Canada was the way to go. Canada wasn't too darn bad, admittedly. Quote
UND92,96 Posted 17 minutes ago Posted 17 minutes ago 25 minutes ago, NewUndFan said: I will say this AGAIN. This is CHAVES fault for hiring Mal and then extending her! Mal totally destroyed this program. Her coaching and recruiting was AWFUL. We had More players from Michigan then Minnesota. Chaves allowed all this to happen and then awarded. First year of Hutter I am not totally impressed, but I am going to give him a year or two to show improvement . He also had several girls injured that could not play this year. While the coaching and overall recruiting were poor under Mallory, I still maintain that UND was very close to being pretty good in 2024-25 despite her ineptitude. If this year's team still had Pemberton, Schiller and Ibrahim, along with Demers, Aumer, Hughes, Ava Miller, Piekny, Hillesheim and Harris, UND is probably no worse than third or fourth in the Summit. Splitting two close games vs. NDSU that season, and being far more competitive vs. SDSU than in the years prior, suggests that Hutter did probably have a pretty big impact in his one year as an assistant, and if he can figure out a way to add some talent close to the level of the top three players from 2024-25, there may be hope. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted 8 minutes ago Posted 8 minutes ago in this day of the portal the idea of taking 5 years to turn things around is crazy.... look at eric in fb and dane in hockey that's what's frusterating about sather....needs big man for about the 7th straight year....gets oral roberts castaway and calls it good Quote
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