beastandco Posted Saturday at 02:22 PM Posted Saturday at 02:22 PM 40 minutes ago, tnt said: I’m guessing no. Being 17, he will have a huge learning curve. Besides, you have two guys that have an offensive leaning. Guessing they might put Zmolek with one of them to let them use their abilities with him being a super solid defender. Could have both of them on the power play I would think. Verhoeff will be given every opportunity to play significant minutes on this team. There will be lots of attention on him given that he could potentially go 2nd overall in the draft next year. The coaching staff also wouldn’t want a guy like that on their 3rd pair. My guess is that they play him with Wiebe or Livanavage. Two veteran defenseman that could cover up some of the mistakes that he will make early on. Quote
beastandco Posted Saturday at 02:27 PM Posted Saturday at 02:27 PM 40 minutes ago, tnt said: I’m guessing no. Being 17, he will have a huge learning curve. Besides, you have two guys that have an offensive leaning. Guessing they might put Zmolek with one of them to let them use their abilities with him being a super solid defender. Could have both of them on the power play I would think. Verhoeff will be given every opportunity to play significant minutes on this team. There will be lots of attention on him given that he could potentially go 2nd overall in the draft next year. The coaching staff also wouldn’t want a guy like that on their 3rd pair. My guess is that they play him with Wiebe or Livanavage. Two veteran defenseman that could cover up some of the mistakes that he will make early on. Quote
nascar99 Posted Saturday at 02:42 PM Posted Saturday at 02:42 PM 17 hours ago, tnt said: You know when we make significant progress because you will again see the hate for the coach by our rivals. Didn’t see that much with Berry. Already see some expressing displeasure that they have to watch UND playing with a bunch of Canadians. What will they say if Saskatchewan and Alberta join the U.S. Seriously, they can’t make up their mind if they hate the overage teams more or those with Canadians. Now they are whining about 17 and 18 year old Canadians? I would say their delusion means they are concerned we will be a force in college hockey again. Come on Chyzyk, bring in Carter Bear to drive them closer to the edge. There's an idealistic view in the state of Minnesota amongst some, especially in the Goofers fanbase, that NCAA Hockey should be as young as possible & as Minnesotan as possible. I think they have their head in the sand, not wanting to acknowledge that junior allows for better development for guys coming out of minor/prep/HS before they get to the NCAA. The product would suck if you rushed every 18 and 19 year old player straight into the NCAA without junior experience. These people also either don't realize how good the talent is outside of Minnesota, or have some sort of odd simultaneous superiority/inferiority complex with Canada and how good its talent base is. I would also guess that many of these types know deep down that their programs don't have the recruiting connections in Canada throughout the minor/junior hockey world to take advantage of CHLers now being NCAA eligible. 1 Quote
ChadR Posted Saturday at 03:19 PM Posted Saturday at 03:19 PM I need an updated line chart with our new recruits 2 Quote
Kevin G Posted Saturday at 03:51 PM Posted Saturday at 03:51 PM Here are the defensemen sorted by handedness, listed oldest to youngest: RHD: Zmolek ('02), Emery ('06), Verhoeff ('08) LHD: Jubenvill ('03), Wiebe ('03), Livanavage ('04), Strathmann ('05), Laurila ('06) Lots of question marks around the RHD: Can Zmolek stay healthy? Can Emery contribute offensively? How will Verhoeff handle college hockey at just 17 years old? 1 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted Saturday at 06:50 PM Posted Saturday at 06:50 PM Like our other programs with new head coaches (FB and WBB), this team will have some early growing pains and will encounter some bumps in the road. But like those other programs, this team will get better as the season goes on. It will be fun to watch. 1 Quote
hockeytherapy13 Posted Saturday at 07:47 PM Posted Saturday at 07:47 PM 5 hours ago, beastandco said: Verhoeff will be given every opportunity to play significant minutes on this team. There will be lots of attention on him given that he could potentially go 2nd overall in the draft next year. The coaching staff also wouldn’t want a guy like that on their 3rd pair. My guess is that they play him with Wiebe or Livanavage. Two veteran defenseman that could cover up some of the mistakes that he will make early on. I’m guessing he starts out 3rd pair for a while and will get elevated once he’s figured out how fast and heavy NCAA and NCHC can be. If he were a 17-year old forward that would be a different animal because he could into top 6 very quickly. But being a young defenseman in the NCHC is rough and even though he’s got the size for it he will need some adjustment time. Quote
atxsioux Posted Saturday at 08:14 PM Posted Saturday at 08:14 PM 5 hours ago, nascar99 said: There's an idealistic view in the state of Minnesota amongst some, especially in the Goofers fanbase, that NCAA Hockey should be as young as possible & as Minnesotan as possible. I think they have their head in the sand, not wanting to acknowledge that junior allows for better development for guys coming out of minor/prep/HS before they get to the NCAA. The product would suck if you rushed every 18 and 19 year old player straight into the NCAA without junior experience. These people also either don't realize how good the talent is outside of Minnesota, or have some sort odd simultaneous superiority/inferiority complex with Canada and how good its talent base is. I would also guess that many of these types know deep down that their programs don't have the recruiting connections in Canada throughout the minor/junior hockey world to take advantage of CHLers now being NCAA eligible. As a comparison - I think people forget that a !@#$ ton of freshmen don’t even play in CFB their first year - they either play sparingly or redshirt. And the freshman that do play a lot are freak athletes (really college hockey is a similar story once you look at it) 2 Quote
Popular Post atxsioux Posted Saturday at 09:48 PM Popular Post Posted Saturday at 09:48 PM 5 hours ago, Kevin G said: Here are the defensemen sorted by handedness, listed oldest to youngest: RHD: Zmolek ('02), Emery ('06), Verhoeff ('08) LHD: Jubenvill ('03), Wiebe ('03), Livanavage ('04), Strathmann ('05), Laurila ('06) Lots of question marks around the RHD: Can Zmolek stay healthy? Can Emery contribute offensively? How will Verhoeff handle college hockey at just 17 years old? Might be just me but I don't think the team will depend too much on EJ for offense and shouldn't need to (any added offense will be a bonus definitely) . As long as he can maintain and keep improving his stopping on the defensive end he'll be playing his role to a T. Excited to see him keep taking steps. Him and Zmolek have the potential to be the shut down anchors on the pairs they are on. 2 4 Quote
brianvf Posted yesterday at 05:06 AM Posted yesterday at 05:06 AM On 5/30/2025 at 9:49 PM, nascar99 said: Livanavage-Verhoeff top pair most likely? I think we see something like this: Livanavage - Wiebe Zmolek - Verhoeff Emery - Strathmann/Jubenvill/Laurila Yes, 1st round draft pick on the 3rd pairing. Yowzers. Zmolek with Verhoeff to let him get up to NCHC game speed and give him freedom, which means he'll make some rookie dman mistakes and Zmolek can cover. Going to be a battle for that 6th dman spot every weekend. I hope that Strath/Jub/Laurila don't get discouraged having to earn their ice time and still stick with the team for the 26/27 season, because I could see Liv/Wiebe/Emery (and maybe Zmolek) all depart after this upcoming season. 1 Quote
siouxforce19 Posted yesterday at 06:57 AM Posted yesterday at 06:57 AM 1 hour ago, brianvf said: I think we see something like this: Livanavage - Wiebe Zmolek - Verhoeff Emery - Strathmann/Jubenvill/Laurila Yes, 1st round draft pick on the 3rd pairing. Yowzers. Zmolek with Verhoeff to let him get up to NCHC game speed and give him freedom, which means he'll make some rookie dman mistakes and Zmolek can cover. Going to be a battle for that 6th dman spot every weekend. I hope that Strath/Jub/Laurila don't get discouraged having to earn their ice time and still stick with the team for the 26/27 season, because I could see Liv/Wiebe/Emery (and maybe Zmolek) all depart after this upcoming season. Zmolek and Verhoeff are both right shot D so I think it’s unlikely they’ll be paired. Quote
brianvf Posted yesterday at 06:59 AM Posted yesterday at 06:59 AM 2 minutes ago, siouxforce19 said: Zmolek and Verhoeff are both right shot D so I think it’s unlikely they’ll be paired. Ah good call. Maybe swap Wiebe and Zmolek. Quote
NoDak Hockey Nation Posted yesterday at 01:06 PM Posted yesterday at 01:06 PM 21 hours ago, Kevin G said: Here are the defensemen sorted by handedness, listed oldest to youngest: RHD: Zmolek ('02), Emery ('06), Verhoeff ('08) LHD: Jubenvill ('03), Wiebe ('03), Livanavage ('04), Strathmann ('05), Laurila ('06) Lots of question marks around the RHD: Can Zmolek stay healthy? Can Emery contribute offensively? How will Verhoeff handle college hockey at just 17 years old? Emery will not need to produce offensively with Livanavage, Wiebe, Strathmann 1 Quote
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted yesterday at 01:31 PM Posted yesterday at 01:31 PM Well well, how the turntables have....... turned. The number of errors suggests it was published without editing or scrutiny (Grand Forks Gazette hyperlink that literally says Herald in the url!), but the premise of expanded pay to play MJ is a sign of panic. https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/junior-hockey/victoria-royals-lose-two-top-players-to-ncaas-north-dakota-whats-next-for-whl 1 1 Quote
dden3 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 18 hours ago, hockeytherapy13 said: I’m guessing he starts out 3rd pair for a while and will get elevated once he’s figured out how fast and heavy NCAA and NCHC can be. If he were a 17-year old forward that would be a different animal because he could into top 6 very quickly. But being a young defenseman in the NCHC is rough and even though he’s got the size for it he will need some adjustment time. Agree. See Emery for example Quote
siouxforce19 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 hours ago, dden3 said: Agree. See Emery for example I would say Verhoeff is more comparable to Sanderson than Emery when it comes to the level of prospect he is though. Quote
hockeytherapy13 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, siouxforce19 said: I would say Verhoeff is more comparable to Sanderson than Emery when it comes to the level of prospect he is though. That doesn’t mean he won’t require some acclimation (amount of time needed is TBD) at the next level. 1 Quote
Und Princess Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 13 minutes ago, hockeytherapy13 said: That doesn’t mean he won’t require some acclimation (amount of time needed is TBD) at the next level. Well said!!! Quote
nascar99 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, siouxforce19 said: I would say Verhoeff is more comparable to Sanderson than Emery when it comes to the level of prospect he is though. To give an NHL comparable, Verhoeff seems like a 17 year old more advanced version of Alex Pietrangelo. Big right shot but more offensive skill. Quote
Popular Post nascar99 Posted 19 hours ago Popular Post Posted 19 hours ago 4 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: verhoeff>sanderson or sanderson>verhoeff Verhoeff as a 16 year old >>>>>> Sanderson as a 16 year old We'll see what type of development jumps Verhoeff takes. Sanderson had a very solid 17 year old season at the NTDP, but even then was seen as a bit of a reach at 5 for the Senators. Then Sanderson had two monster years at North Dakota on stacked teams and has gotten better & better since. 5 Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 33 minutes ago, nascar99 said: Verhoeff as a 16 year old >>>>>> Sanderson as a 16 year old We'll see what type of development jumps Verhoeff takes. Sanderson had a very solid 17 year old season at the NTDP, but even then was seen as a bit of a reach at 5 for the Senators. Then Sanderson had two monster years at North Dakota on stacked teams and has gotten better & better since. If Verhoeff is even as close to as dominant(and more importantly bought in) as Sanderson was his sophomores year at UND I will be ecstatic 4 Quote
Popular Post nascar99 Posted 18 hours ago Popular Post Posted 18 hours ago 7 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: If Verhoeff is even as close to as dominant(and more importantly bought in) as Sanderson was his sophomores year at UND I will be ecstatic I think the key is for Verhoeff to come back for his sophomore season. For example, say he goes top 5 to the Sharks, Chyzyk & Jackson need to work well with Mike Grier to make sure that Grier is on board with UND's development plan for Verhoeff for another year. Verhoeff takes off from a production and defensive maturity standpoint as a sophomore and then steps into the Sharks lineup in spring 2027 after the UND season is done. That's probably the ideal. 5 Quote
Popular Post brianvf Posted 18 hours ago Popular Post Posted 18 hours ago Hopefully less prone to injuries as well. I felt we got cheated out of watching so much of Sanderson during his time at UND. He was such a fun player to watch. 8 Quote
Wilbur Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Got to remember as well that Zmolek is coming off a season long injury and we really don't know if he will be able to stay healthy. I think you'll see Verhoeff start out third pair and slowly build his way up to top four minutes. He's a first round kid, but the NCHC will be a jump. Being 6'4 as a 17 year old helps. 1 Quote
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