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4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

If folks were comfortable telling Schloss that UND is absent on the recruiting trail, it's already butchered, wrapped, and in the cooler. 

Absent on the recruiting trail? As in, not out there at all for some reason? Or out there but just not grabbing attention of top tier players like UND used to be able to in the past?

Blows my mind guys like Schloss and others can say moving on from Berry was a bad move. How can anyone deny the steady decline of the program over the past 8-9 years? As of today is UND even considered a blue chip program anymore? Historically yes, as that will never go away, but as of today I mean. Sadly I'd say no. 

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1 minute ago, Brim006 said:

Absent on the recruiting trail? As in, not out there at all for some reason? Or out there but just not grabbing attention of top tier players like UND used to be able to in the past?

Blows my mind guys like Schloss and others can say moving on from Berry was a bad move. How can anyone deny the steady decline of the program over the past 8-9 years? As of today is UND even considered a blue chip program anymore? Historically yes, as that will never go away, but as of today I mean. Sadly I'd say no. 

I don't think he overtly said that, did he? His article said it just was abnormal and if I recall the story, he even noted the pressure of coaching at UND and the fanbase's expectations.

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46 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

If there is a there there to the claims of a weekend incident involving Boisvert, it'd be a shame if it hit the press wires and screwed up his backdoor deal. 

Or if the video leaked out...

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Just now, Brim006 said:

Absent on the recruiting trail? As in, not out there at all for some reason? Or out there but just not grabbing attention of top tier players like UND used to be able to in the past?

Blows my mind guys like Schloss and others can say moving on from Berry was a bad move. How can anyone deny the steady decline of the program over the past 8-9 years? As of today is UND even considered a blue chip program anymore? Historically yes, as that will never go away, but as of today I mean. Sadly I'd say no. 

Agreed.

I wonder if some complacency kicked in with Berry over the last few years between having long tenure and a fat paycheck. 
 

Scotty Owens’ last few years at CC, he wouldn’t even get on the ice for practice. He’d sit up in the stands with a newspaper while he let his assistants run practice. Also, he flew first class on road trips while players and assistants flew coach. Not good optics. 

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49 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

If there is a there there to the claims of a weekend incident involving Boisvert, it'd be a shame if it hit the press wires and screwed up his backdoor deal. 

These student- athletes are men. Why hasn’t the kerfuffle from last weekend hit the paper? I am looking at you Brad!

Posted
6 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Ok, so uh.... this is a big nothingburger of a video lol

Exactly. Looks like some drunk kids wrestling around. 

Posted
15 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:

What’s the ballpark of the amount we are paying guys right now or will in the next year or so?

Ask all of the posters "in the know". I haven't read in any of these threads where, "...UND was close, but at $25,00, it wasn't on par with the current market."  Don't hate the player(s), hate the game. We can whine, complain & make principled statements like, "Well! If playing for the Sioux ain't good enough, the we don't want 'em!" And the other schools will smile, say 'Thank you very much' and take those players. It's not any different from the game pro sports play when, _____ quarterback's new contract just made him the highest paid QB in the league. Show that you respect the player's skill level and/or rank in their sport, or someone else will. I hire sales people all the time, believe me, they know exactly what their competitors are making, and where the market level is set. 

But ask the 'experts', I have no clue, maybe we are paying now, but just not enough.

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Just now, SiouxBoys said:

I'm glad you think knocking somebody out with a steel chair is irrelevant. 

You have ANY sniff of proof on that?

Goodness, I'm gonna stay out on this one. 

This place, man.

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1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said:

What was that point in time when UND became a soft easy to play against program? 

Asking for Gophers fans......

When we started recruiting spit weasels.

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Just now, stoneySIOUX said:

You have ANY sniff of proof on that?

Goodness, I'm gonna stay out on this one. 

This place, man.

Yes actually. Sources who were there. And if you think the police aren't already involved, you're even more clueless than I already thought lol

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1 minute ago, SiouxBoys said:

Yes actually. Sources who were there. And if you think the police aren't already involved, you're even more clueless than I already thought lol

Ok, buddy. Have a good one!

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4 minutes ago, upnorth said:

Rumor is there is a video of  incident floating around so we will see if it gets into the hands of the ones that care or if anyone presses charges

Different than the one posted ten minutes ago in this thread?

Posted
1 hour ago, tnt said:

...and with how our year was going, why wouldn't you be building for the future with Croal and Littler, guys that showed they cared?    

Play the guys who aren't fluffy 5x5? 

Novel concept. 

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Grand forks is too small to be able to raise the kind of money these kids think they are worth 

charles Barkley said it best when he said adults need to get in the room and fix this 

any business needs to ask what will my return on my investment be

pay a kid $xyz this year and they are gone next year , I won’t shop for anything just because an athlete says it’s good 

‘if a kid leaves they should have to pay the school they are leaving from a % of their next contract , just like coaches do 

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24 minutes ago, Godsmack said:

Agreed.

I wonder if some complacency kicked in with Berry over the last few years between having long tenure and a fat paycheck. 
 

Scotty Owens’ last few years at CC, he wouldn’t even get on the ice for practice. He’d sit up in the stands with a newspaper while he let his assistants run practice. Also, he flew first class on road trips while players and assistants flew coach. Not good optics. 

IIRC Blais, when he left, said something to the effect of his thinking 10 years about about the expiration date in one place.  Of course, that can be different for everyone.  But from my own experience in business I know one can get comfortable in a job over time and as they get older.  Not saying this applies to Berry.  Just a plausible explanation.

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