Blackheart Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/9/2025 at 3:19 AM, tnt said: But we were actually an elite program then, making the frozen four all the time. Plenty of teams to change your mind that are contenders almost every year. UND is not the elite program it once was, thanks to a run of mediocrity. Expand But what about the Penrose?
SIOUXELEVENS Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 So if Berry is back without an extension and wins the Penrose next year but has an early exit in the NCHC and NCAA tourneys does he get a new contract?
Benny Baker Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/9/2025 at 3:13 PM, SIOUXELEVENS said: So if Berry is back without an extension and wins the Penrose next year but has an early exit in the NCHC and NCAA tourneys does he get a new contract? Expand That’s my fear. 2026: Penrose; 0 NCAA wins; but extension 2027: miss NCAAs 2028: make NCAAs, but no wins 2029: Penrose; 0 NCAA wins; extension again 2030: repeat ….
fightingsioux4life Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/9/2025 at 3:35 PM, Benny Baker said: That’s my fear. 2026: Penrose; 0 NCAA wins; but extension 2027: miss NCAAs 2028: make NCAAs, but no wins 2029: Penrose; 0 NCAA wins; extension again 2030: repeat …. Expand Idk, I feel a tipping point has been reached this year. The fan base is starting to understand how dysfunctional the program has gotten. And that will lead to more calls for change. 1
burd Posted February 9 Posted February 9 I’m not sure where all the dissatisfaction is coming from. We’re doing better than the Rube Bjorkman years. Be thankful for what you have is what I’d say.
SIOUXELEVENS Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 Players seem to regress when they get here, Berry style of play is not what younger players want any part of and his line ups , playing older, average players over younger players with a higher ceiling. Figure out you lines before Xmas and run with them. 1 1
fightingsioux4life Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/9/2025 at 3:52 PM, burd said: I’m not sure where all the dissatisfaction is coming from. We’re doing better than the Rube Bjorkman years. Be thankful for what you have is what I’d say. Expand Please tell me you are being sarcastic. 3
burd Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/9/2025 at 3:57 PM, gfhockey said: We are happy with Penrose and one and domes tho Expand God, a Penrose would be nice!
siouxweet Posted February 9 Posted February 9 I remember when Berry was hired the thought was the offense would open up, boy was that thought wrong. 2
cberkas Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/9/2025 at 6:36 PM, siouxweet said: I remember when Berry was hired the thought was the offense would open up, boy was that thought wrong. Expand When they missed the tournament the next season, I was hoping that wouldn't become the norm
fightingsioux4life Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/9/2025 at 6:36 PM, siouxweet said: I remember when Berry was hired the thought was the offense would open up, boy was that thought wrong. Expand When your players miss the net half the time, it doesn't really matter. 1
Shawn-O Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/9/2025 at 3:52 PM, burd said: I’m not sure where all the dissatisfaction is coming from. We’re doing better than the Rube Bjorkman years. Be thankful for what you have is what I’d say. Expand What a horrible comparison. Look at the resources Berry has at his disposal for God's sake. Maybe my sarcasm meter is on the fritz.
burd Posted February 10 Posted February 10 On 2/9/2025 at 9:58 PM, Shawn-O said: What a horrible comparison. Look at the resources Berry has at his disposal for God's sake. Maybe my sarcasm meter is on the fritz. Expand You’re right, of course, but I swear emojis have been the death knell for subtlety, irony and satire. Maybe it’s for the better. Maybe we all just need to talk straight.
The Sicatoka Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Tell me if you have heard this one: A 60-ish coach nearing end of contract whose style is "score three* and play D" and hasn't won a meaningful playoff game in a while and is slipping mid-pack while conference foes keep winning the NCAAs. *is that 3 goals or 3 TDs 3
siouxweet Posted February 10 Posted February 10 On 2/10/2025 at 2:20 PM, The Sicatoka said: Tell me if you have heard this one: A 60-ish coach nearing end of contract whose style is "score three* and play D" and hasn't won a meaningful playoff game in a while and is slipping mid-pack while conference foes keep winning the NCAAs. *is that 3 goals or 3 TDs Expand Problem is neither's teams were/are good at playing D and have a hard time getting the 3 scores
yzerman19 Posted February 10 Posted February 10 and as important as playing 200 feet and solid defense is, the world still loves offensive highlights, and the NHL wants guys who can put the puck in the net and get fans out of their seats. Inside every team the grit, blocked shots, great routes and back pressure are revered, but scoring and playmaking are the hardest commodities to come by. Remember for chippahs, they are still trying to become somebody. They aren't anybody if they are a first round pick getting pucks deep and forechecking...that's a change you make when you are getting paid to make that change 2 1
fightingsioux4life Posted February 10 Posted February 10 On 2/10/2025 at 5:29 PM, yzerman19 said: and as important as playing 200 feet and solid defense is, the world still loves offensive highlights, and the NHL wants guys who can put the puck in the net and get fans out of their seats. Inside every team the grit, blocked shots, great routes and back pressure are revered, but scoring and playmaking are the hardest commodities to come by. Remember for chippahs, they are still trying to become somebody. They aren't anybody if they are a first round pick getting pucks deep and forechecking...that's a change you make when you are getting paid to make that change Expand To win Nattys, you need all four phases of the game (offense, defense, goaltending and special teams) to be functional.
yzerman19 Posted February 10 Posted February 10 On 2/10/2025 at 5:34 PM, fightingsioux4life said: To win Nattys, you need all four phases of the game (offense, defense, goaltending and special teams) to be functional. Expand no doubt, and to win Nattys you need a couple chippahs who think they have a chance and are allowed to play in a way to score 60 points a season at UND 2
fightingsioux4life Posted February 10 Posted February 10 On 2/10/2025 at 5:38 PM, yzerman19 said: no doubt, and to win Nattys you need a couple chippahs who think they have a chance and are allowed to play in a way to score 60 points a season at UND Expand A balance of 1 to 2 year players and 3 to 4 year players is best.
yzerman19 Posted February 10 Posted February 10 yep, 3-4 year players in grinder roles is awesome...1-2 year draft picks in those roles not so much 1
fightingsioux4life Posted February 10 Posted February 10 On 2/10/2025 at 5:44 PM, yzerman19 said: yep, 3-4 year players in grinder roles is awesome...1-2 year draft picks in those roles not so much Expand And sometimes those 3 to 4 year players end up being way better than you originally thought. 1
siouxweet Posted February 10 Posted February 10 The structure that Berry demands takes the skill out of these players because of playing instinctively they are robots going from point a to b to c. 1 1
SIOUXpucks Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Berry has lost the team. Sounds like an absolute dumpster fire. People wonder if him going away would hurt recruiting but at this point, for this team, him staying might hurt as much or worse. Open discussions among players about desires to transfer out, and if that happens does that also scare away incoming recruits? 1
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