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1 hour ago, Clark17 said:

Nothing cheap about it.  You also have to consider youth travel starting at squirts in many places.  Hotels, meals, fuel, association fees plus equipment.  Z71 Suburban's ain't cheap either.   

That Z71 come with a corresponding team North Face 1/4 zip fleece?

Posted
1 hour ago, Clark17 said:

Interesting

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a relative on the North boy's team and I was told 2 girls from south last year on the N/S girls. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a relative on the North boy's team and I was told 2 girls from south last year on the N/S girls. 

Most from North yes. They use to have a few Shanley girls as well but I believe they play for Davies now? Could be wrong.

Posted
8 hours ago, Clark17 said:

Nothing cheap about it.  You also have to consider youth travel starting at squirts in many places.  Hotels, meals, fuel, association fees plus equipment.  Z71 Suburban's ain't cheap either.   

The worst possible thing is to have a marginally talented kid.. super easy to be suckered into "needing" to keep up the camps, teams, tourneys and "IT,s a SHOWCASE WE HAVE TO GO AAAAAAA scouts and coaches will be there AHHHHHHHHHGG!!!!"

Gotta leave home, AaA elite premier is the ONLY way +!!!》☆☆

Quadruple mortgage the trailer and sell the family heirlooms and at the end....  its beer league

 

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Posted
8 hours ago, gfhockey said:

And denalis 

 

can’t forget about Canada geese eithrr

Zero chance your kid makes Squirt AA if smoking hot mom ain't wearing a Canada goose 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

WF over RR 7-4.  RR is in store for a rough season.  

Their goaltending.  Holy man.  The kid they started can't be the guy.  Four goals on 6 shots to start the game. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Wilbur said:

Their goaltending.  Holy man.  The kid they started can't be the guy.  Four goals on 6 shots to start the game. 

Questionable goaltending, suspect D and no difference makers at forward.

Posted
On 12/13/2024 at 11:48 PM, Frozen4sioux said:

The worst possible thing is to have a marginally talented kid.. super easy to be suckered into "needing" to keep up the camps, teams, tourneys and "IT,s a SHOWCASE WE HAVE TO GO AAAAAAA scouts and coaches will be there AHHHHHHHHHGG!!!!"

Gotta leave home, AaA elite premier is the ONLY way +!!!》☆☆

Quadruple mortgage the trailer and sell the family heirlooms and at the end....  its beer league

 

So power skating and shooting etc. camps won't help improve a marginally talented player.

I guess music lessons or football practice won't help those kids that enjoy those activities get better.

As for AAA hockey, ND isn't smart enough to have that as a resource for the better players. The better kids wouldn't have to leave home to get the better competition.  I know a few kids make it  to the higher levels by just playing high school hockey but your kidding yourself if you think ND high school hockey is anywhere close to the quality of play as AAA.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Speez said:

So power skating and shooting etc. camps won't help improve a marginally talented player.

I guess music lessons or football practice won't help those kids that enjoy those activities get better.

As for AAA hockey, ND isn't smart enough to have that as a resource for the better players. The better kids wouldn't have to leave home to get the better competition.  I know a few kids make it  to the higher levels by just playing high school hockey but your kidding yourself if you think ND high school hockey is anywhere close to the quality of play as AAA.

Alot to unpack there but

1)Nobody said ND high school hockey was anywhere close to  AAA... but AAA isn't a certification, it's just a label. And anyone can pay to play with that label somewhere.

A ton of shady people and organizations out there just label crap "AAA" and take people's money by suckering them into thinking it's the only way for their special little 2.3 ppg squirt 2 all-star clam nugget to make the next level.  Good lord .. good example is anything produced in the "North land"... :"AAA" Mello yello explosion touney... ... more like low level B hockey coached by complete tools that never played a day of organized hockey. Just a label, just someone cashing checks... but hey get to keep the jersey right!?

2) No, all the money, camps and special skating coaches in the world won't change the outcome for 99% of kids in hockey. So many examples to illustrate this.

Just ask Mastercard.

3) And will ALWAYS call out the hypocrisy of a: 

"ND based AAA so kids don't have to leave home"

There is no possible full time ND based AAA/Tier 1 for ND players,

There's selfishly wanting a Fargo based program so Fargo kids don't have to leave home or a GF based program so GF kids don't have to leave home or a Bismarck based.... etc..

The reality is not any of those places could produce a full team per year class to be a competitive "AAA" program without bringing in multiple players from outside ... which isnt "staying home".

And the market for bringing together the ones that can and want to play at that level together in the fall and spring is, not without its faults, but covered and producing respectable results.

 

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Posted
11 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said:

Alot to unpack there but

1)Nobody said ND high school hockey was anywhere close to  AAA... but AAA isn't a certification, it's just a label. And anyone can pay to play with that label somewhere.

A ton of shady people and organizations out there just label crap "AAA" and take people's money by suckering them into thinking it's the only way for their special little 2.3 ppg squirt 2 all-star clam nugget to make the next level.  Good lord .. good example is anything produced in the "North land"... :"AAA" Mello yello explosion touney... ... more like low level B hockey coached by complete tools that never played a day of organized hockey. Just a label, just someone cashing checks... but hey get to keep the jersey right!?

2) No, all the money, camps and special skating coaches in the world won't change the outcome for 99% of kids in hockey. So many examples to illustrate this.

Just ask Mastercard.

3) And will ALWAYS call out the hypocrisy of a: 

"ND based AAA so kids don't have to leave home"

There is no possible full time ND based AAA/Tier 1 for ND players,

There's selfishly wanting a Fargo based program so Fargo kids don't have to leave home or a GF based program so GF kids don't have to leave home or a Bismarck based.... etc..

The reality is not any of those places could produce a full team per year class to be a competitive "AAA" program without bringing in multiple players from outside ... which isnt "staying home".

And the market for bringing together the ones that can and want to play at that level together in the fall and spring is, not without its faults, but covered and producing respectable results.

 

Wait so if I spend thousands of dollars on camps and AAA teams my kid might not play D1 hockey.  WTF??:D

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Posted
20 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

Wait so if I spend thousands of dollars on camps and AAA teams my kid might not play D1 hockey.  WTF??:D

Does your wife wear a Canada goose coat? That’s the early indicator 

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Posted
2 hours ago, siouxweet said:

Wait so if I spend thousands of dollars on camps and AAA teams my kid might not play D1 hockey.  WTF??:D

The only sure thing I ever heard about in life is one day you won't wake up any more.

Posted
18 hours ago, Speez said:

So power skating and shooting etc. camps won't help improve a marginally talented player.

I guess music lessons or football practice won't help those kids that enjoy those activities get better.

As for AAA hockey, ND isn't smart enough to have that as a resource for the better players. The better kids wouldn't have to leave home to get the better competition.  I know a few kids make it  to the higher levels by just playing high school hockey but your kidding yourself if you think ND high school hockey is anywhere close to the quality of play as AAA.

As Mr. Curl has said "the kid has to want it more than the parents" 

Aka, most of it is out of your control no matter how much you spend and push for it. 

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I could write a book about youth hockey but will just say that the other sports have caught up to and surpassed hockey in terms of cost and travel.  Travel (USSSA) baseball, AAU basketball, volleyball, gymnastics, travel soccer, etc., etc.  It's pay-to-play for anything these days and hockey shouldn't have to apologize anymore.  My local youth hockey association is cheaper than playing travel baseball or travel basketball.  My daughter is in gymnastics.  Yeah, that ain't cheap either.

The cheapest and purest sport left is football.  Start in Jr High/High School.  School provides all the training, equipment, etc.  Great athletes can still excel and play at the highest levels.

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8 boys games tonight.  Most interesting matchups to me will be Mandan/CHS and WF/Davies.  

3 girls games tonight.  Jamestown and WFU should be a good battle.  Will see if GF tendy can keep them in the game with North.

Posted
1 hour ago, Johnny Five said:

8 boys games tonight.  Most interesting matchups to me will be Mandan/CHS and WF/Davies.  

3 girls games tonight.  Jamestown and WFU should be a good battle.  Will see if GF tendy can keep them in the game with North.

WF seems to be catching their footing now that Mattern is gaining momentum. I'll guess WF over Davies tonight. And ill guess CHS over Mandan in a close one. 

FN vs WFS could be a decent one too but I'm guessing FN has the upper hand there? Same for DL vs Minot. Minot should win and probably will win, but this is the type of game DL's goalie could help them steal if he gets hot. 

 

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7 hours ago, Johnny Five said:

8 boys games tonight.  Most interesting matchups to me will be Mandan/CHS and WF/Davies.  

3 girls games tonight.  Jamestown and WFU should be a good battle.  Will see if GF tendy can keep them in the game with North.

Boys Predictions:

West Fargo High over Davies

Wahp/Breck over Mayport

Central over South Shanley

Crookston over GPR

Legacy over High

Minot over Devils Lake

Century over Mandan

Fargo North over Sheyenne.

Every road team but one with the wins this evening.  

 

Posted
15 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

Boys Predictions:

West Fargo High over Davies

Wahp/Breck over Mayport

Central over South Shanley

Crookston over GPR

Legacy over High

Minot over Devils Lake

Century over Mandan

Fargo North over Sheyenne.

Every road team but one with the wins this evening.  

 

Here's my full prediction

WF over Davies 

Mayport over Wahp

Central over FSS

GPR over Crookston

Legacy over High

Minot over DL 

Century over Mandan

FN over WFS

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