UND Football Fan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Whoever we get, needs to have the energy and be relatable/find connections to the athletes so we have a chance for a successful season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Kab said: Everyone blaming the hockey budget get the other programs winning and money follows, South Dakota had a great turnaround in football last year, I doubt their budget increased first like in anything your leaders need to have a vision bubba is lacking that chaves is lacking that bubba needs to get out more and let people know what the hell is going on and how he is going to fix it Bubba isn’t capable to facilitate the turnaround. I agree there needs to be more leadership and vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, dmksioux said: Easy. Money. It’s always about money. Until we invest in others sports not named hockey, nothing will change. Of course. Need more leadership and vision to acquire more for non-hockey sports and enhance the budget. It’s obvious but can’t be ignored: NDSU and SDSU don’t have to fund a hockey program whereas UND does. It still seems that the Kennedy/Engelstad McGarry feud and REA Inc. agreement is causing issues. After Kennedy left, seems UND realized it is not worth the trouble and moved on; thus, they’re in a stranglehold via REA, Inc. But if you don’t acknowledge the problem then it’s certainly easier to cope. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 13 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: So in the past let's say we had 8 men's and 8 women's sports.....Did all revenue for all sources regardless of teams go in the ADepartment's bank account? From there did the ADepartment than say...ok....UND hockey coach you get 80k a year....top 3 in the wcha probably behind minny and wisco? Did they then say football coach you get 75k which the top two of the ncc? assisantant coaches pool was top 1, 2 or 3? Same thing with basketball coaches.....60k...top 1 or 2 or 3 of ncc? Flash forward to KEM and REA......revenue goes into REA coffers instead of a general ADepartemnt account and from there "they (hockey only people)" say...... Bubs you get 450k and 400k for assistants which is far far more than 2nd in the nchc..... Bubba you get 220k which is good for 5th in the mvfc and your assistants can split 300k which gets you......not much considering ndsu pays 650k to it's assistnats. and so forth and so forth for bball, vball, and everything else (less than peer schools?) i'm confused, I thought the situation with the REA was about ticket revenue, now your claiming the REA is setting salaries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Football Fan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Not sure if there is change from 8-10 years ago. Someone who experienced the budgeting process said a crazy amount of the sports budget went to hockey (I don’t recall numbers). Judging the lack of change in salaries (head coach to assistants) I doubt it is any different now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, homer said: I could see the Northern St OC based on current staff. wildcard could be David Schramm from UMary. Offense wasn’t great but the guy has a resume that is much better than the OC that just left and would have been a better hire if you take names out of it. I was thinking U Mary OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, 90siouxfan said: i'm confused, I thought the situation with the REA was about ticket revenue, now your claiming the REA is setting salaries? im asking.....why did we go from being competitive in terms of coaches salaries to where we are now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 21 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: im asking.....why did we go from being competitive in terms of coaches salaries to where we are now? oh, ok didn't realize you were doing the "throw sh!t against the wall" speculation.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said: oh, ok didn't realize you were doing the "throw sh!t against the wall" speculation.... it's not speculation that our coaches are underpaid compared to our dak peer schools.....question is why? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: it's not speculation that our coaches are underpaid compared to our dak peer schools.....question is why? fair point, the veiled shot at the REA wasn't needed, but you do you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 maybe i missed it, is there a chart of top FCS teams that lists HC, Coordinators, position coaches salaries for comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, 90siouxfan said: fair point, the veiled shot at the REA wasn't needed, but you do you wasnt a veiled shot.....i think the REA "agreement" is the new variable that fundamentally changed our AD to whores working for madame kem 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: wasnt a veiled shot.....i think the REA "agreement" is the new variable that fundamentally changed our AD to whores working for madame kem Even if the REA agreement was better, I still think a more innovative funding model is needed to be competitive across-the-board in Division I. The expenses of being a Division I institution are only going to go up in the future. If we keep the current model, we'll end up like Northern Colorado. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I guess you can step up and make a large donation and unseat your despised queen.... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDRA Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: im asking.....why did we go from being competitive in terms of coaches salaries to where we are now? I think a big part of it was when the decision to go Div 1. was made. Made more out of desperation in order to keep up with the neighbors. Meanwhile not much thought was put into increased expenses. Coaching salaries, facilities, etc. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 isaac>jake>danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: isaac>jake>danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 28 minutes ago, NDRA said: I think a big part of it was when the decision to go Div 1. was made. Made more out of desperation in order to keep up with the neighbors. Meanwhile not much thought was put into increased expenses. Coaching salaries, facilities, etc. yeah, late to the game is often a tough way to find success... if moo u had sunk like a rock in what turned out to be a diluted jv d-1 with more overhead we would be proud of our astute decision... isn't there a current financial situation where UND is better off than Moo U? I don't grasp the title 9 loophole thing and don't care to learn it, but curious if the loophole was closed, then what.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Isaac it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Well now the OC is filled, think we still have at least one position coach to fill….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, sioux24/7 said: Appears the two final candidates were very close, like his leadership and professional background and regional roots. If the only tipping point for Landry was his UND Legacy that has been severly damaged. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, NDRA said: I think a big part of it was when the decision to go Div 1. was made. Made more out of desperation in order to keep up with the neighbors. Meanwhile not much thought was put into increased expenses. Coaching salaries, facilities, etc. You are 100% correct! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 11 minutes ago, CMSioux said: Appears the two final candidates were very close, like his leadership and professional background and regional roots. If the only tipping point for Landry was his UND Legacy that has been severly damaged. Was it really tho coach talk? whats bubba gunna say this was his 4th pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Was it really tho coach talk? whats bubba gunna say this was his 4th pick I can confirm it was extremely close between him and Landry. In the end, Landry's UND connection won it for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: I can confirm it was extremely close between him and Landry. In the end, Landry's UND connection won it for him. So bubba made that decision? What do we think of bubbas decision makings skills? It should be und connection. It should be experience and philosophy and energy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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