2023-24 University of North Dakota Hockey Season

[Goon]

On 5/4/2023 at 8:22 PM, dustnyou said:

Agreed. And in Luke’s mind, he expected more ice time but it was taken up by transfers.  

Or said transfers were playing better than you? With the players that UND has coming in, would he have played that much this year, either? 

[Goon]

22 hours ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

The ones that stuck out to me, didn't realize Matt Wellens didn't quote Bast in the 1st one(wonder why):

Bast said he respects that UMD took him out of the transfer portal to fill a void on the roster this season, not to push out any other current players or recruits. He also respect how protective the staff is of the program’s culture.

“Everyone talks about culture, like literally every program,” Bast said. “There’s some programs that actually walk the walk and other programs that talk the talk. What I’ve heard from Duluth is they walk the walk when it comes to culture. That was very appealing to me.”

There are certain writers that like to post inflammatory stuff in their articles to get clicks or stir debate. Especially, if they don't get as many views as they would like. I am not saying Wellins is doing this. I am not upset with his quote, it's how he feels, good luck to him. Whatever. UND has a passionate fanbase and the fanbase drives clicks. 

[BusinessSiouxt]

I don’t know why anyone would want to read between the lines of a quote by a 20 year old trying to justify their decision to leave a program with the history of a North Dakota. He’s a kid. He wants to play. Let him be.

[burd]

2 hours ago, BusinessSiouxt said:

I don’t know why anyone would want to read between the lines of a quote by a 20 year old trying to justify their decision to leave a program with the history of a North Dakota. He’s a kid. He wants to play. Let him be.

Fans tend to forget or ignore that, sometimes with the excuse that these are elite level players, many of whom will make a lot of money in just a few years.   But they are entitled to many of the same lapses in judgment we were guilty of at that age.  And it is just a game, though fans often make it into something more because they need it to be in their sorryazz, burdlike lives.  

[Esoteric]

On 5/4/2023 at 3:46 PM, brianvf said:

I think a lot of that had to do with his injury.  An injury that was even stated earlier in the article, that it lingered for the whole season.

Very sorry to see him leave.  He was an asset.

[brianvf]

1 hour ago, Esoteric said:

Very sorry to see him leave.  He was an asset.

I certainly think he could have played a bigger part of this team next season if he would have stuck around.
That said, I really do like how the defensive unit has shaped up after starting from zero at the end of the season.  Our top 4 will be very good, and if a few of the freshmen can get up to NCHC speed relatively quickly, they'll be an excellent group by years end.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

19 hours ago, BusinessSiouxt said:

I don’t know why anyone would want to read between the lines of a quote by a 20 year old trying to justify their decision to leave a program with the history of a North Dakota. He’s a kid. He wants to play. Let him be.

It’s not that deep buddy, I’m not worried about the “history of North Dakota”. I’m wondering what Luke’s experience was actually like at UND. Also, it’s the off-season.

[BusinessSiouxt]

6 hours ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

It’s not that deep buddy, I’m not worried about the “history of North Dakota”. I’m wondering what Luke’s experience was actually like at UND. Also, it’s the off-season.

Read my post again, s.l.o.w.l.y. It’s about the kid and his state of mind and actions. Says nothing about anything else. The additional words are supportive of the argument ‘buddy’…

[N of GF]

21 hours ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

It’s not that deep buddy, I’m not worried about the “history of North Dakota”. I’m wondering what Luke’s experience was actually like at UND. Also, it’s the off-season.

“I really enjoyed my time here in North Dakota. It was a great group of guys here,” Luke Bast said. “I really did enjoy my time here, but at the same time, for me, going into my sophomore year, I was expecting to hopefully get a little bit more opportunity and that wasn't the case. And that's fine, that's all part of the business and I get it.”

 

 

[scpa0305]

On 5/6/2023 at 7:11 AM, SIOUXELEVENS said:

We can only hope. 

I know right. I’ve heard he’s locked into BSU though. Tough because a kid like that should be playing with a bigger program with more exposure. He’s good.

[The Sicatoka]

On 5/5/2023 at 11:06 PM, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Poaching Pohlkamp?

No. Poaching. 
No. Tampering. 
Do unto others as you would have ...

I see good options in the portal (and pipeline).

I can't figure out what they are looking for in an 8D. Are they looking for a "suit". Are they looking for insurance if Zmolek's hip isn't right? Are they looking "rental" (one year) or investment.

About all I can say about 8D is it's more important to finalize than a theoretical 16F. 

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

16 hours ago, BusinessSiouxt said:

Read my post again, s.l.o.w.l.y. It’s about the kid and his state of mind and actions. Says nothing about anything else. The additional words are supportive of the argument ‘buddy’…

You're misinterpreting what I'm saying, that's cool. Not worth losing sleep over, have a good one

[The Sicatoka]

Schloss thinks ... older ... 

 

 

[tnt]

4 hours ago, scpa0305 said:

I know right. I’ve heard he’s locked into BSU though. Tough because a kid like that should be playing with a bigger program with more exposure. He’s good.

I don't know that he needs exposure, as I am certain everyone knows about him.  Brad Hunt and Zach Whitecloud made out o.k. playing at Bemidji State.  I actually think it is refreshing if he keeps his commitment to BSU. 

[scpa0305]

4 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

No. Poaching. 
No. Tampering. 
Do unto others as you would have ...

I see good options in the portal (and pipeline).

I can't figure out what they are looking for in an 8D. Are they looking for a "suit". Are they looking for insurance if Zmolek's hip isn't right? Are they looking "rental" (one year) or investment.

About all I can say about 8D is it's more important to finalize than a theoretical 16F. 

I believe the deadline is 5/18. So players can still enter. 

[scpa0305]

11 minutes ago, tnt said:

I don't know that he needs exposure, as I am certain everyone knows about him.  Brad Hunt and Zach Whitecloud made out o.k. playing at Bemidji State.  I actually think it is refreshing if he keeps his commitment to BSU. 

I’m just saying he’d get more exposure at Und (or any other big school) and would be playing with more talent. Which can be fairly important.

But you are correct, it has been done before.

[skateshattrick]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Schloss thinks ... older ... 

 

 

I personally would like to see Andrew Strathmann come in, mostly because I don't want UND to take another chance of a recruit flipping his commitment.  

[Goon]

7 minutes ago, skateshattrick said:

I personally would like to see Andrew Strathmann come in, mostly because I don't want UND to take another chance of a recruit flipping his commitment.  

If he's okay with going to Juniors another year, what's the harm? Others have posted here that he's said he's cool with another year of Juniors. 

[brianvf]

5 minutes ago, skateshattrick said:

I personally would like to see Andrew Strathmann come in, mostly because I don't want UND to take another chance of a recruit flipping his commitment.  

People have posted that he seems 100% committed to UND regardless of if he comes in or not this year.
So I'm hoping that is the case.

[The Sicatoka]

25 minutes ago, skateshattrick said:

I personally would like to see Andrew Strathmann come in, mostly because I don't want UND to take another chance of a recruit flipping his commitment.  

Schloss sees some serious minute eaters (Pyke, Pehrson). That leaves four slots.
Figure Zmolek is one. That leaves three. 
Based on age and accolades, Wiebe. Now two for Benoit, Livanavage, and Komzak. (And that's just seven D.) 

Strathmann creates a log jam for minutes.
If he's talking a USHL season to focus on defense and come in 2024, yes please. 

[skateshattrick]

5 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Schloss sees some serious minute eaters (Pyke, Pehrson). That leaves four slots.
Figure Zmolek is one. That leaves three. 
Based on age and accolades, Wiebe. Now two for Benoit, Livanavage, and Komzak. (And that's just seven D.) 

Strathmann creates a log jam for minutes.
If he's talking a USHL season to focus on defense and come in 2024, yes please. 

I agree as long as what he is saying is accurate. I recall that Rizzo initially said he was okay waiting another year, but then waited another year, decommitted and went to Denver. Morrow didn't like the coaches telling him to play a year in the USHL and neither did Stephen Halliday. As long as Strathmann is okay with it and it is his decision, it makes sense. I just really don't like losing high end recruits. 

[scpa0305]

17 hours ago, skateshattrick said:

I agree as long as what he is saying is accurate. I recall that Rizzo initially said he was okay waiting another year, but then waited another year, decommitted and went to Denver. Morrow didn't like the coaches telling him to play a year in the USHL and neither did Stephen Halliday. As long as Strathmann is okay with it and it is his decision, it makes sense. I just really don't like losing high end recruits. 

If the season doesn’t go great next year and Strathmann is playing ushl, I’d be a bit concerned that he flips to UM or MSU (home state/B10). Based on what he’s doing in the USHL, he comes across as very ready for the next step. If his team wins it all and he’s logging these huge minutes. Id say bring him in to be safe. 
 

But as others have mentioned, going back to juniors would not hurt him, he was a bit streaky at times. Could work on his D game more I suppose. His +\- has always been solid bit that metric can have its flaws when assessing players D. I mean…Sam Rinzel played juniors this year and was a 1st rounder. Situation was vastly different however.

[stoneySIOUX]

18 hours ago, skateshattrick said:

I personally would like to see Andrew Strathmann come in, mostly because I don't want UND to take another chance of a recruit flipping his commitment.  

 

13 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

If the season doesn’t go great next year and Strathmann is playing ushl, I’d be a bit concerned that he flips to UM or MSU (home state/B10). Based on what he’s doing in the USHL, he comes across as very ready for the next step. If his team wins it all and he’s logging these huge minutes. Id say bring him in to be safe. 
 

But as others have mentioned, going back to juniors would not hurt him, he was a bit streaky at times. Could work on his D game more I suppose. His +\- has always been solid bit that metric can have its flaws when assessing players D. I mean…Sam Rinzel played juniors this year and was a 1st rounder. Situation was vastly different however.

He's the one who wants to stay. He believes he's not ready. UND agrees it's smart he's doing this planning.

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

17 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

If the season doesn’t go great next year and Strathmann is playing ushl, I’d be a bit concerned that he flips to UM or MSU (home state/B10). Based on what he’s doing in the USHL, he comes across as very ready for the next step. If his team wins it all and he’s logging these huge minutes. Id say bring him in to be safe. 
 

But as others have mentioned, going back to juniors would not hurt him, he was a bit streaky at times. Could work on his D game more I suppose. His +\- has always been solid bit that metric can have its flaws when assessing players D. I mean…Sam Rinzel played juniors this year and was a 1st rounder. Situation was vastly different however.

Isn't he from suburban Chicago?

[siouxforce19]

4 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Isn't he from suburban Chicago?

Yes he is. Was confused by the home state comment referring to Michigan.