NoiseInsideMyHead Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, homer said: So more people died last year that we’re going to donate than any other year prior? Possible, but more likely a disproportionate number of high-level donors died as compared to recent years. A statistical outlier, perhaps, but hardly beyond the realm. I do think that trying to look for obvious causes (nickname, president, foundation leadership, current climate on campus) is foolish. There are far too many plausible explanations that have nothing to do with the perpetual hand-wringing we see on here over day-to-day matters about which most old people with money and connections to UND probably have zero interest or awareness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: Hot take: Lots of people died who were going to "donate" eventually; has nothing to do with any one person, event, or fundraising strategy. Hotter take: Record fundraising could have saved music therapy (and perhaps other programs and jobs) from the chopping block...where was all of this generous philanthropy the past couple of years? 29 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: Possible, but more likely a disproportionate number of high-level donors died as compared to recent years. A statistical outlier, perhaps, but hardly beyond the realm. I do think that trying to look for obvious causes (nickname, president, foundation leadership, current climate on campus) is foolish. There are far too many plausible explanations that have nothing to do with the perpetual hand-wringing we see on here over day-to-day matters about which most old people with money and connections to UND probably have zero interest or awareness. Your hot take is wrong. Bequest contributions would already have been counted and applied to a prior year's fundraising total as planned giving. "Fundraising includes new gifts, pledges, grants, and bequest commitments." The reported fundraising number isn't the same as the actual cash flow to UND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 44 minutes ago, nodak651 said: Your hot take is wrong. Bequest contributions would already have been counted and applied to a prior year's fundraising total as planned giving. "Fundraising includes new gifts, pledges, grants, and bequest commitments." The reported fundraising number isn't the same as the actual cash flow to UND. How am I wrong? Do you have the data to prove or disprove that the dollar value of planned gifts exceeded the value of unplanned gifts? Do wills not provide for gifts to UND that have not been pre-planned with the foundation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Gamble Hall commitments.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: How am I wrong? Do you have the data to prove or disprove that the dollar value of planned gifts exceeded the value of unplanned gifts? Do wills not provide for gifts to UND that have not been pre-planned with the foundation? You think multiple "high level" donors died and left UND tens of millions, without telling UND their intentions, even though they were already existing donors? Highly unlikely. Maybe someone left UND a winning lottery ticket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Ndsu was at $48 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Ndsu was at $48 million NDSU is not flagship. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, nodak651 said: You think multiple "high level" donors died and left UND tens of millions, without telling UND their intentions, even though they were already existing donors? Highly unlikely. Maybe someone left UND a winning lottery ticket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What's your explanation, then, genius? You seem to know everything. You going with the Kennedy connection, the Engelstad connection, the "Fighting Hawk Acceptance" theory, or what? Or did the foundation just suddenly pull its head out of its ass and start working harder? I'll wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: What's your explanation, then, genius? You seem to know everything. You going with the Kennedy connection, the Engelstad connection, the "Fighting Hawk Acceptance" theory, or what? Or did the foundation just suddenly pull its head out of its ass and start working harder? I'll wait... Not sure. I'll wait and find out, but UNDBIZ's comment makes the most sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 https://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/editorials/4611982-Our-view-UND-donors-understand-Students-first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGSIOUX Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Be on the lookout for some big announcements! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, BIGSIOUX said: Be on the lookout for some big announcements! Come on man, you can't tease like that and not deliver! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, UNDColorado said: Come on man, you can't tease like that and not deliver! Hey, either the announcements will be big or they won't. Patience young grasshopper! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 hours ago, BIGSIOUX said: Be on the lookout for some big announcements! 3 hours ago, UNDColorado said: Come on man, you can't tease like that and not deliver! 3 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: Hey, either the announcements will be big or they won't. Patience young grasshopper! It's happening!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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