Spring Ball

[CMSioux]

What about "improving the fan experience", there was decent fan participation when UND made it an event, definitely something they could build on. Now it is nothing, holding it on a Friday almost makes it seem they don't want people to come. Chaves  needs to step in.

[UND-FB-FAN]

28 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

With the new seating I don’t think the venue is the big issue. 

It should be a game format with a score, even if heavily controlled/scripted just so the players and fans have something to look forward to. Can’t have authentic scrimmage in HPC as it isn’t a full 120 yard field - need Alerus Center for that. And could have tailgating, video board introductions and team entrance, concessions going in concourse, halftime band entertainment, etc. 

Create a game-like atmoshphere to build hype for the upcoming season. *It is done around the entire country.* UND football and Bubba are still in the Stone Age. 

[UND1983]

9 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

It should be a game format with a score, even if heavily controlled/scripted just so the players and fans have something to look forward to. Can’t have authentic scrimmage in HPC as it isn’t a full 120 yard field - need Alerus Center for that. And could have tailgating, video board introductions and team entrance, concessions going in concourse, halftime band entertainment, etc. 

Create a game-like atmoshphere to build hype for the upcoming season. *It is done around the entire country.* UND football and Bubba are still in the Stone Age. 

No it actually isn't "done around the country" much anymore at all. The full spring game thing is dying a slow, painful death. To the point that any inclement weather at all will cancel the game completely - that's how important they are. 

Teams that make money have no problem with them, others do them cause they feel they have to and then the actual spring game itself turns out to be the most boring event ever.

[UND-FB-FAN]

3 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

No it actually isn't "done around the country" much anymore at all. The full spring game thing is dying a slow, painful death. To the point that any inclement weather at all will cancel the game completely - that's how important they are. 

Teams that make money have no problem with them, others do them cause they feel they have to and then the actual spring game itself turns out to be the most boring event ever.

You’re wrong. It is hyped up AROUND THE COUNTRY far more than UND does. If you compare Spring Games to actual games in the fall, then of course the events are boring, but that completely misses the point I just made and is pure deflection on your part.

With spring ball, it is all relative.

If you go to Minneapolis, Madison, Lincoln or even Brookings or Fargo and compare it to what UND does, then you would see how far behind the times UND is.

[nodak651]

At least there is some coverage.

From UND's website:

"While the practice will not be televised or streamed, fans can tune into the action with Jack Michaels, Mike Berg, and Paul Ralston from 5:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. on 1440-AM in Grand Forks and 790-AM/94.1-FM in Fargo. University of North Dakota television partner, MidcoSN, will produce and air its award-winning series "Day by Day" following the night's events"

 

[UND1983]

3 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

You’re wrong. It is hyped up AROUND THE COUNTRY far more than UND does. If you compare Spring Games to actual games in the fall, then of course the events are boring, but that completely misses the point I just made and is pure deflection on your part.

With spring ball, it is all relative.

If you go to Minneapolis, Madison, Lincoln or even Brookings or Fargo and compare it to what UND does, then you would see how far behind the times UND is.

Lol...you are special.  

[UND1983]

5 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

You’re wrong. It is hyped up AROUND THE COUNTRY far more than UND does. If you compare Spring Games to actual games in the fall, then of course the events are boring, but that completely misses the point I just made and is pure deflection on your part.

With spring ball, it is all relative.

If you go to Minneapolis, Madison, Lincoln or even Brookings or Fargo and compare it to what UND does, then you would see how far behind the times UND is.

UND isn't behind the times, they were actually ahead of the times for years, putting on a big event in the Alerus.  They purposely chose to make it less of an event for whatever reason.  That isn't 'behind the times'.  The times show that the event itself is dying if you would bother to look around.

[UND-FB-FAN]

Just now, UND1983 said:

Lol...you are special.  

Think what you want. Your lens are so Kelly Green that you’ve blatantly forgotten all other colors (i.e., you’re heavily biased). UND has much to improve on. 

[UND1983]

Appears you were completely lying to all us - shocker:

https://columbustelegram.com/sports/huskers/football/spring-games-are-dying-or-dwindling-in-some-corners-but/article_b0750ca4-9d99-5faa-ac17-98d8140c7ec1.html

"All you have to do is look around the Big Ten. Northwestern doesn’t hold a spring game at all. Wisconsin’s was canceled due to weather in 2018 and this year the Badgers aren’t having a traditional spring game, opting instead for an open practice to close out the spring session. Iowa is having turf replaced currently so there is no spring game. Time will tell if they reinstitute it next year or follow the Badgers’ lead of not going back.

Ohio State is having a spring game this weekend — like NU’s it’s being televised on BTN — but it will feature no live tackling. The Buckeyes instead will "thud it up," head coach Ryan Day told reporters there.

Minnesota has attempted to hold a spring game, but it’s been disrupted by injuries, weather or, this spring, both, for three straight years under P.J. Fleck."

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 minute ago, UND1983 said:

UND isn't behind the times, they were actually ahead of the times for years, putting on a big event in the Alerus.  They purposely chose to make it less of an event for whatever reason.  That isn't 'behind the times'.  The times show that the event itself is dying if you would bother to look around.

That’s a false narrative said so UND fans remain content. Research what NDSU, SDSU, Minnesota, etc. are doing this year; not exactly the same as UND. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.argusleader.com/amp/3444160002

https://gobison.com/schedule.aspx?path=football

https://gophersports.com/news/2019/3/7/football-spring-game-details-announced.aspx

 

[UND1983]

Just now, UND-FB-FAN said:

That’s a false narrative said so UND fans remain content. Research what NDSU, SDSU, Minnesota, etc. are doing this year; not exactly the same as UND. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.argusleader.com/amp/3444160002

https://gobison.com/schedule.aspx?path=football

https://gophersports.com/news/2019/3/7/football-spring-game-details-announced.aspx

 

I just completely windmill dunked on you with an article stating the games are dying and you come back with NDSU and SDSU?  LMFAO.  

The Gophers are basically holding a game for the first time in 3 years.  Fun.  SDSU's stadium is currently under 2 feet of snow - let me know how the atmosphere is!  

 

[UND-FB-FAN]

5 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Appears you were completely lying to all us - shocker:

https://columbustelegram.com/sports/huskers/football/spring-games-are-dying-or-dwindling-in-some-corners-but/article_b0750ca4-9d99-5faa-ac17-98d8140c7ec1.html

"All you have to do is look around the Big Ten. Northwestern doesn’t hold a spring game at all. Wisconsin’s was canceled due to weather in 2018 and this year the Badgers aren’t having a traditional spring game, opting instead for an open practice to close out the spring session. Iowa is having turf replaced currently so there is no spring game. Time will tell if they reinstitute it next year or follow the Badgers’ lead of not going back.

Ohio State is having a spring game this weekend — like NU’s it’s being televised on BTN — but it will feature no live tackling. The Buckeyes instead will "thud it up," head coach Ryan Day told reporters there.

Minnesota has attempted to hold a spring game, but it’s been disrupted by injuries, weather or, this spring, both, for three straight years under P.J. Fleck."

Your PJ Fleck statement doesnt mean anything. Look at the above link I posted to see what they are ACTUALLY scheduling. And yes, the above schools are scaling back, and yet their events are far larger and more hyped than UND’s. You failed to mention the FCS competition, including NDSU and SDSU - they are doing more than UND. 

You can defend Bubba all you want, but it’s clear UND is taking the easy way out for spring ball and it is does NOT compare to what the national standard is, despite the limited examples you included. 

[UND1983]

Just now, UND-FB-FAN said:

Your PJ Fleck statement doesnt mean anything. Look at the above link I posted to see what they are ACTUALLY scheduling. And yes, the above schools are scaling back, and yet their events are far larger and more hyped than UND’s. You failed to mention the FCS competition, including NDSU and SDSU - they are doing more than UND. 

You can defend Bubba all you want, but it’s clear UND is taking the easy way out for spring ball and it is does NOT compare to what the national standard is, despite the limited examples you included. 

You need help, bro.  A narcissist support group would be a good start.  

[UND-FB-FAN]

6 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

I just completely windmill dunked on you with an article stating the games are dying and you come back with NDSU and SDSU?  LMFAO.  

The Gophers are basically holding a game for the first time in 3 years.  Fun.  SDSU's stadium is currently under 2 feet of snow - let me know how the atmosphere is!  

 

Last I checked UND is an FCS school, so are NDSU and SDSU. 

Your article was focused on FBS Big 10, but even so, it stated “SOME spring games are dying” while others (in this case Nebraska) are growing. Seems to be making the case it’s status quo overall. In fact, the opening line reads “Nebraska’s Red-White Spring Game has never been stronger.”

Not exactly justifying what UND is doing for spring football (or rather NOT doing). 

[UND-FB-FAN]

11 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

You need help, bro.  A narcissist support group would be a good start.  

Thanks - you’re so kind. I would simply recommend education for you. You twist a story to fit your biases quite nicely, I’ll give you that. 

Removing contact to make spring games safer is wonderful but does not justify de-escalating the hype sourrounding the game. Period. 

[Nodak61]

12 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

That’s a false narrative said so UND fans remain content. Research what NDSU, SDSU, Minnesota, etc. are doing this year; not exactly the same as UND. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.argusleader.com/amp/3444160002

https://gobison.com/schedule.aspx?path=football

https://gophersports.com/news/2019/3/7/football-spring-game-details-announced.aspx

 

"While spring games are always heavily controlled, the Jacks will be especially careful this time, as the spring season was marked by several injuries of varying degrees of seriousness."   From the SDSU article.  So why beat each other up?  Heavily controlled will mean quick whistles and very little contact.   Extremely controlled.  Can get the same from a practice type scenario.  Practice usually includes some type of 11 on 11 anyway.   Better to work on fundamentals at this point?

 

[UND-FB-FAN]

4 minutes ago, Nodak61 said:

"While spring games are always heavily controlled, the Jacks will be especially careful this time, as the spring season was marked by several injuries of varying degrees of seriousness."   From the SDSU article.  So why beat each other up?  Heavily controlled will mean quick whistles and very little contact.   Extremely controlled.  Can get the same from a practice type scenario.  Practice usually includes some type of 11 on 11 anyway.   Better to work on fundamentals at this point?

 

As above:

Removing contact to make spring games safer is wonderful but does not justify de-escalating the hype sourrounding the game.

The first line I typed that started this forum fiasco: 

It should be a game format with a score, even if heavily controlled/scripted just so the players and fans have something to look forward to.

[homer]

5 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Thanks. I would simply recommend education for you. You twist a story to fit your biases quite nicely, I’ll give you that. 

Removing contact to make spring games safer is wonderful but does not justify de-escalating the hype sourrounding the game. Period. 

So games with no tackling and quick whistles will be more entertaining than UNDs set up from last year?  

[jdub27]

23 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

That’s a false narrative said so UND fans remain content. Research what NDSU, SDSU, Minnesota, etc. are doing this year; not exactly the same as UND. 

How about you actually research what NDSU is doing before making a claim. It is on a Friday night and it isn't actually a game.

[UND-FB-FAN]

Just now, jdub27 said:

Research what NDSU is actually doing. It isn't a spring game. 

I’ve seen it - it is actually televised all over North Dakota. 

It is played in their actual regular season venue.

Actual score is kept.

Actual activities before the game are held.

It actually promotes their football program for the next season. 

[UND1983]

Brookings just got 18" of snow.  Should be exciting for the fans!  

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 minute ago, UND1983 said:

Brookings just got 18" of snow.  Should be exciting for the fans!  

SDSU moved game to indoor practice facility. 

But, here at UND we are able to control the weather ...

Alerus Center is still indoors.

[Nodak78]

4 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Brookings just got 18" of snow.  Should be exciting for the fans!  

Damn.  They could had a halftime snowball fight.  missed a big opportunity to promote it.

[UND1983]

6 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

SDSU moved game to indoor practice facility. 

But, here at UND we are able to control the weather ...

Alerus Center is still indoors.

So they are doing the same thing as UND now?  

[UND-FB-FAN]

3 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

So they are doing the same thing as UND now?  

Quite similar, but they keep score though. 

I suppose SDSU football is UND football’s standard ...