Who would UND hire?

[gfhockey]

Just now, 90siouxfan said:

Did the 750k buyout happen or some other shenanigan?

Und alumni associations newest 2nd highest paid employee

[SIOUXFAN97]

you do wonder if fruchte and oline guy were told......

bubba does well..(playoffs and whatnot) your good to go for a few years and potentially take over if bubba retires.....

or...if bubba doesn't do well we'll move him upstairs (or fired) and fruchte your the new coach and oline guy your good too?

if those guys get let go what a shame to move your family and leave a nice job in winona for a one year wipeout ....

[UND-FB-FAN]

45 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

My belief - if we got the 3 yards on the 2 point conversion at Youngstown, Bubba is still coaching.  They win and go into the next week with momentum and beat ISU blue. That alone would have gotten us to 7-5. Then it comes down to beating either USD or Illinois St for a very successful season.   It is amazing what a difference one play can make.

 

UND would have still choked it away in the playoffs. Defense was still awful. Let’s not pretend the Bubba tenure (2014-2024) or the 2024 team was something it wasn’t. It wasn’t just one play. I strongly DON’T believe in that. It was time for a change, and I’m thankful on Thanksgiving weekend that UND football gets the opportunity to revitalize the program with Bubba’s presumed willingness. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

7 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

if those guys get let go what a shame to move your family and leave a nice job in winona for a one year wipeout ....

That’s Div. I college football. 
Start selling insurance otherwise if you DON’T like it. I know that sounds cutthroat but it’s reality. No one forces you to coach college football. With that said I wish Coach Fruechte and Coach Olson the best; they’re good guys, but again, this is about coaching football, not being simply a nice guy. Think Bubba … simply being nice doesn’t win football games.

[SIOUXFAN97]

4 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

That’s Div. I college football. 
Start selling insurance otherwise if you DON’T like it. I know that sounds cutthroat but it’s reality. No one forces you to coach college football. With that said I wish Coach Fruechte and Coach Olson the best; they’re good guys, but again, this is about coaching football, not being simply a nice guy. Think Bubba … simply being nice doesn’t win football games.

agreed...but what i kinda meant is that bubba still gets paid (not sure how und accounting goes but does the AD get off the hook and the alumni takes the hit?) and that fruchte might be the next HC on the cheap bc he for sure would take less than market value considering he went from d2 coordinator to fcs HC....how much money do we have to hire a "big name" especially to grab a guy from usd or sdac or ndac that have it made in vermillion, brookings, or fargo by the looks of it?

kinda asking if chaves thought of this when he gave bubba his extention last year.....

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, SIOUXFAN97 said:

agreed...but what i kinda meant is that bubba still gets paid (not sure how und accounting goes but does the AD get off the hook and the alumni takes the hit?) and that fruchte might be the next HC on the cheap bc he for sure would take less than market value considering he went from d2 coordinator to fcs HC....how much money do we have to hire a "big name" especially to grab a guy from usd or sdac or ndac that have it made in vermillion, brookings, or fargo by the looks of it?

kinda asking if chaves thought of this when he gave bubba his extention last year.....

They are doing a national search and I hope it is a true national search.

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, fightingsioux4life said:

They are doing a national search and I hope it is a true national search.

once again...how much money do have to play with to get a "national" candidate while bubba gets 400k to cold call alumni

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, SIOUXFAN97 said:

once again...how much money do have to play with to get a "national" candidate while bubba gets 400k to cold call alumni

If we can't afford a national search, then we have bigger problems than Bubba.

[Shawn-O]

Matt Entz 

[fightingsioux4life]

If we aren't able to fund FB properly, then we should just drop the sport. Why pump resources into a program if we aren't serious about building a winner? And no, that damn Pioneer League is not an option, in case anyone was thinking of bringing it up.

[iramurphy]

3 hours ago, shep said:

Me either. I get that a coach of any kind should have some knowledge about who to hire, but that's crazy that he may have had the most power at that time.

He didn’t. 

[iramurphy]

10 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

once again...how much money do have to play with to get a "national" candidate while bubba gets 400k to cold call alumni

Over $300,000 annually plus bonus incentives. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 minute ago, iramurphy said:

Over $300,000 annually plus bonus incentives. 

and I’ll happily donate to make it more if necessary…

Let’s get the right guy we can all be proud of. Someone who views UND as an opportunity and not the final destination, but also has the track record as successful head coach or successful FCS coordinator to realistically take UND to the next level.

[90siouxfan]

11 minutes ago, Shawn-O said:

Matt Entz 

you shut your mouth

[iramurphy]

33 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Doubtful on buyout, transition to different position likely facilities a transitioned salary over x number of years. 

 

37 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said:

Did the 750k buyout happen or some other shenanigan?

No “shenanigans “.

[siouxkid12]

2 hours ago, gundy1124 said:

I would agree but SDSU (San Diego) being crappy and lacking talent helps UND's case.  Schmidt could be looking at 1) Next HC at UND or 2) next year as DC and potentially fired if that program doesn't turn it around.  Never hurts to look more than your current pay check down the road.  If SDSU had a winning record and top or improving D Schmidt probably not interested in UND at all.  

 

It’s his first year in San Diego and the head coaches 2nd year, so I don’t think anyone is on the hot seat at SDSU. Sure, Schmidt could come back (wife from crookston and him being from Mandan) but I don’t think moving down to D1AA his helping him reach the pinnacle of college coaching (and that’s a D1A HC position).

[UND-FB-FAN]

5 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

It’s his first year in San Diego and the head coaches 2nd year, so I don’t think anyone is on the hot seat at SDSU. Sure, Schmidt could come back (wife from crookston and him being from Mandan) but I don’t think moving down to D1AA his helping him reach the pinnacle of college coaching (and that’s a D1A HC position).

Going 3-8 at San Diego State won’t get you to the pinnacle of college coaching, either.

With all due respect, though, since I am very confident Schmidt will apply, I don’t think he should meet preferred criteria. He hasn’t been a college head coach (therefore not with successful head coach experience) and he hasn’t been a successful coordinator. His time at UND as defensive coordinator was without a playoff win, thus, the same as Bubba. And his time at Washington and Fresno State should rightfully be overshadowed by DeBoer’s capabilities in my opinion. 
 

There hopefully will be better candidates.

[iramurphy]

1 hour ago, Sioux>Bison said:

UND ties won’t take us to the next level. Can we even afford Eric? He’s got to make way over $500k

I believe he took a pay cut to go from Washington to SDSU. I think he was at $575,000 at Washington in 2023 and SDSU gave him $400,000 plus but I’m not positive. 
I wouldn’t eliminate a candidate based on whether or not they have a UND.
You need a proven leader, proven recruiter, with the ability to interact with University officials, boosters, other fans, media, alumni and most importantly players. He should have a proven track record of success at the D1 level (FCS or FBS) or very successful D2 head coaching record with some D1 experience. 
I don’t care whether or not they have played or coached at UND but it would be a mistake to not give those candidates fair and equal consideration. 

[Cratter]

We know it'll be a former UND guy.....cause that's how UND roles....so which one is the only question.

I guess it's Schmidts job to lose?

[Cratter]

I want an actual head coach not some coordinator. 

Two different things.

[iramurphy]

4 minutes ago, Cratter said:

We know it'll be a former UND guy.....cause that's how UND roles....so which one is the only question.

I guess it's Schmidts job to lose?

How do you know that? I’m not sure the job has even been posted and Schmidt hasn’t applied yet. 

[Cratter]

A real leader doesn't wait for applicants to role in, he goes out and gets his guy.

[Cratter]

Just now, iramurphy said:

How do you know that? I’m not sure the job has even been posted and Schmidt hasn’t applied yet. 

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[Longtime fan]

If und “has” to hire a und connected individual I would take Tim Tibesar. That would be the only guy that I’m interested in.  The others mentioned.   No thank  you. 
 

Regardless…it feels like Christmas today with great news.    

[sioux24/7]

5 minutes ago, Cratter said:

I want an actual head coach not some coordinator. 

Two different things.

So you’re saying someone that’s a head coach right now? Or mean something else by that? If you mean current HC, then would think D2 ranks is likely. Doubt we could poach an FCS coach.